Why religion and politics don't go together.

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

What a retarded thread and who else than this poster?

Imagine living in 1900's and still arguing about Islam and politics blah blah.....whereas the rest of Pakistan has moved on and showed great happiness in living under an Islamic Republic with no organic demand for 'secularism'.

These atheistic liberal seculars want to impose their vision of governance and life on the rest of us. Yeah, no thanks mate. You can **** off

 

[VCheng]

the rest of Pakistan has moved on and showed great happiness in living under an Islamic Republic with no organic demand for 'secularism'.

That right of Pakistanis to live under whatever laws they wish MUST be respected. If they are happy, then what could be better?

 

[Mutakalim]

That is EXACTLY what the world sees and objects to since what Muslims do in the name of their religion is very REAL. Quite logical.

World should be more objective; and should be more reasonable and logical. Hitler was a Christian but no one criticised Christianity for his wrong acts. Christians are doing massacres for centuries in the name of Christianity. No one raised an objection that Christianity is evil. And please dont resort to old habit of picking a part of the post and then arguing against just that part; without bothering about context of the post.

 

[VCheng]

World should be more objective; and should be more reasonable and logical. Hitler was a Christian but no one criticised Christianity for his wrong acts. Christians are doing massacres for centuries in the name of Christianity. No one raised an objection that Christianity is evil. And please dont resort to old habit of picking a part of the post and then arguing against just that part; without bothering about context of the post.

Really? Would you agree then Judaism is not evil either? How about Hindusim?

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

That right of Pakistanis to live under whatever laws they wish MUST be respected. If they are happy, then what could be better?

Tell that to your fellow liberal secularists that keep arguing something that has been settled for decades now.

Not a single, yes SINGLE, mass protest has happened in Pakistan in last 73 years demanding revocation of Islamic Republic in Pakistan and replacing it with a 'secular' state order devoid of any influence and role of Islam in public life.

Again, not....a....single...mass...protest!

Yet idiots like @Indus Pakistan or the NGO elitists of Pakistan keep bring up this topic again and again and again. What could be the cause I wonder?

 

[VCheng]

Tell that to your fellow liberal secularists that keep arguing something that has been settled for decades now.

Not a single, yes SINGLE, mass protest has happened in Pakistan in last 73 years demanding revocation of Islamic Republic in Pakistan and replacing it with a 'secular' state order devoid of any influence and role of Islam in public life.

Again, not....a....single...mass...protest!

Yet idiots like @Indus Pakistan or the NGO elitists of Pakistan keep bring up this topic again and again and again. What could be the cause I wonder?

It is up to Pakistanis to determine the direction of their country. They want an Islamic Republic, and they should have it.

 

[Mutakalim]

Really? Would you agree then Judaism is not evil either?

No. Why would I? I will raise objections on Judaism based on it's dogmas. Not because some jew is acting wrongfully, and against the commands and principles of Judaism. Anything else?

 

[VCheng]

No. Why would I? I will raise objections on Judaism based on it's dogmas. Not because some jew is acting wrongfully, and against the commands and principles of Judaism. Anything else?

If you raise objections on other religions based on their dogmas, then what stops them from raising similar objections on Islam? After all, all religions are sets of personal beliefs.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Not a single, yes SINGLE, mass protest has happened in Pakistan in last 73 years demanding revocation of Islamic Republic in Pakistan

Not a single mass protest like what you see in H-9, Islamabad with Mullahs spouting for a "Islamic Republic" took place in the entire 98 years the British were ruling what is now Pakistan.

Again, not....a....single...mass...protest!

And remind me how many such protests took place when Rajit Singh's Khalsa were riding your a*ss and walking away with stones from mosques to build Sikh temples or when they banned your ancestors from cow slaughter?

Tell me?

No. Why would I? I will raise objections on Judaism based on it's dogmas. Not because some jew is acting wrongfully, and against the commands and principles of Judaism. Anything else?

Sup boy. How is the ghetto? Got your 99p chicken chip deal with halal kola?

 

[Mutakalim]

If you raise objections on other religions based on their dogmas, then what stops them from raising similar objections on Islam? After all, all religions are sets of personal beliefs.

Who is stopping followers of other religions from raising objections on Islam? They always did that; in fact, they are doing it for centuries. What is the point? I dont know where are you trying to go with these illogical questions, which have no relevance to the topic at hand or with your original claim.

Sup boy. How is the ghetto? Got your 99p chicken chip deal with halal kola?

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

Not a single mass protest like what you see in H-9, Islamabad with Mullahs spouting for a "Islamic Republic" took place in the entire 98 years the British were ruling what is now Pakistan.

And remind me how many such protests took place when Rajit Singh's Khalsa were riding your a*ss and walking away with stones from mosques to build Sikh temples or when they banned your ancestors from cow slaughter?

Tell me?

This retard thinks that entire Azadi movement of Pakistan----based on two-nation theory and a demand for a separate Muslim state was not reflective of the masses desire to create and live in a country based on Islamic identity

"BuT wHeRe ArE prOtesTs for IsaLaMic RePublic"......ignores entire Pakistan movement, especially of late 40's.

Talk about a drunkard curmudgeon seeking attention bc most likely his own family doesn't love him enough.

Why don't you open a poll in this very forum and see whether people want Pakistan to be a prosperous Islamic Republic or a liberal-secular country with Islam playing no role in public life?

Most Pakistanis want their country to be based in Islamic identity, and do not want secular liberalism of the West. Now stfu and stop quoting me unless you have something worthwhile to say

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This retard thinks that entire Azadi movement of Pakistan----based on two-nation theory and a demand for a separate Muslim state was not reflective of the masses desire to create and live in a country based on Islamic identity

Having a separate Muslim country was a constitutional project and one dreamed up by western educated people.

• the name Pakistan was thought up by a UK resident Rehmat Ali
• the movement was led by a decidely western educated Jinnah
• the idealogue of Pakistan Sir Allama Iqbal was another western educated gent.

Most of your filthy, disgusting Mullahs were crying out "Na-Pak" Pakistan and opposed the idea of Pakistan.

drunkard curmudgeon

Better then a drug addled pedophile

family doesn't love him enough.

You sound like a guy who was exposed to bacha bazi in your tender years. If you still have sweat back I can will be happy to give you a ride.

 

[Azadkashmir]

What? Only bearded JUI-F talibs are under economic hardship? Is inflation only screwing bearded people? The fact is and you know it, Mullah Diesel is behind this and is out to secure his political position and is using Islam and economy to do this. Shameless !

Kala pa-ki living in Gora-istan in a filthy ghetto subject of Goree Queen eating from a economy controlled by Jewish bankers.

I am a vegetarian. No thanks. Now you go and groom some under age girl with some street drugs.

Calling me Kala pa-ki, you claim to be Pakistani yet you are shame of it. Sad prick wannabe gora, inferiority complex. it easy to insult on the web but face to face I bet you are some nerd bas trd. You have bad mouth one-day somebody going punch that mouth and make you shut up for life.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Calling me Kala pa-ki, you claim to be Pakistani yet you are shame of it. Sad prick wannabe gora, inferiority complex. it easy to insult on the web but face to face I bet you are some nerd bas trd. You have bad mouth one-day somebody going punch that mouth and make you shut up for life.

Mmmm

 

[Azadkashmir]

Tell that to your fellow liberal secularists that keep arguing something that has been settled for decades now.

Not a single, yes SINGLE, mass protest has happened in Pakistan in last 73 years demanding revocation of Islamic Republic in Pakistan and replacing it with a 'secular' state order devoid of any influence and role of Islam in public life.

Again, not....a....single...mass...protest!

Yet idiots like @Indus Pakistan or the NGO elitists of Pakistan keep bring up this topic again and again and again. What could be the cause I wonder?

indus suffers from inferiority complex and like a little teenager calls member names and ruins the thread.