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American official Raymond Davis, arrested for killing two Pakistanis in Lahore, may have headed a covert Central Intelligence Agency team that was tasked to secretly gather intelligence on the Pakistan-based terror group Lashkar-e-Tayiba, which the United States feels is getting out of the shadows of the Pakistan army to launch a campaign of jihad against it and Europe.

By covertly monitoring the LeT, Davis might have stepped on the wrong side of the Inter-Services Intelligence that has nurtured the Lashkar for years as a proxy force to attack targets and enemies in India, the New York Times reported.

The report said that since the ISI has backed the LeT, the Pakistani spy agency doesn't look kindly on America trying to bust it.

The extraordinary swirl of recriminations that followed the Davis shooting episode confirmed for many Pakistan's suspicions that America has deployed a secret army of spies and contractors inside Pakistan.

"It has also called unwelcome attention to a bigger, more dangerous game in which Davis appears to have played just a supporting role," the paper quoted American officials, who did not elaborate.

"American officials are convinced that Lashkar is no longer satisfied being the shadowy foot soldiers in Pakistan's simmering border conflict with India. Its goals have broadened, these officials say, and Lashkar is committed to a campaign of jihad against the United States and Europe, and against American troops in Afghanistan," the NYT said.

The Pakistan army's sensitivity to LeT, the paper said, could be evident when during a visit to Islamabad last July, Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, declared Lashkar a 'global threat', a statement that no doubt rankled his Pakistani hosts.

And so a group that Pakistan has seen for years as an essential component of its own national security, and that American counter-terrorism officials could once dismiss as a regional problem, has emerged as a threat that Washington feels it can no longer ignore. Given such a fundamental collision of interests, it was perhaps inevitable that Lashkar would one day provoke tensions between Pakistani and American security officials, and the collision itself would come into full public view.

Rather than being a cause of the problem, Davis was merely an all-too-visible symptom.

Lashkar operatives now operate inside Afghanistan, and have teamed with other militant groups to attack American troops, according to American intelligence officials.

In February 2010, 18 people, including a number of Indian doctors and other foreigners, were killed in a LeT attack on their guesthouses. LeT has also bolstered fund-raising networks throughout Europe, especially in Germany and Britain, reported the NYT, which also said that counter-terrorism officials believe that the group is considering a 26/11-style attack in Europe.


Due to ISI's support for the terrorist outfit, an attack by the group on the US could greatly strain relations between Islamabad and Washington.

"There is a recognition that because of Lashkar's associations, an attack on the United States could wind up causing the Pakistani government extreme pain," said Seth G Jones, a political scientist at the RAND Corporations. Jones implied the possibility of using military force deep within Pakistan, according to the newspaper.

Officially, Lashkar was banned by President Pervez Musharraf's government in 2002, and declared a terrorist organisation three years later by the United Nations. But it hardly operates like a group in hiding.

For instance, LeT leader Hafiz Muhammad Saeed reportedly gives regular sermons in Lahore on Fridays, denouncing what he calls the imperialism of the United States, Israel and India while flanked by guards. Saeed, who has been under house arrest several times, was set free by the Lahore high court in 2009.

The newspaper further reported that the LeT's sprawling headquarters in Muridke, a Lahore suburb, "contains not only a radical madrassa and housing for the school's faculty members, but also a market, a hospital and a fish farm."

Christine Fair, a LeT expert at Georgetown University, said the group has set up sophisticated networks throughout Asia to train dozens of sleeper operatives for attacks in India.

In Thailand, for instance, Muslim recruits arriving from India are handed fake Pakistani passports for travel to Pakistan, where they go for several weeks of training, according to Fair, as reported by The Times. After the training, the operatives go back to Thailand, reclaim their Indian passports and return to India.

Pakistan's military and ISI, according to the report, wants to hang on to groups like LeT and the Haqqani network to use them in India and Afghanistan after the American troops leave.

Further, the Obama administration is no longer pushing Islamabad to sever ties with militants because previous such demands by the Americans have been ignored by Pakistan. The report also pointed out that despite their cagey relations, Islamabad and Washington still needed each other.

"As much as senior Pakistani officials resent the billions of dollars in aid they accept from Washington, they believe that they can't turn away the money and hope to keep pace with their rival, India," the report said.


http://http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-why-raymond-davis-got-on-the-wrong-side-of-isi/20110315.htm
 
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msybe he was giving nukes to alkaida, maybe he was arming the pakistani talibans, maybe he was in covert ops in doing bomb blasts across the country
 
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it must be the Indians who hired Raymond Davis to watch over LeT !!!
 
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Another India vs. Hafiz Saeed article.

If Shiv Sena is free to roam about, if the culprits behind Babri Masjid destruction are still at large, if the Kashmiris are still being persecuted for their refusal to bow to India and if the murderers of Muslims in Gujrat are well and alive, then India loses any right to talk about H.Saeed.

He was set free by a court, not by ISI orders.

Trying to pit US against Pakistan has failed before and it will fail again. The US just wants an excuse to cover its losses in Afghanistan by claiming that Pakistan was playing a double game. But no matter, they find an excuse to leave and then continue to ignore the anti-Pakistan rhetoric by India.
 
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 Another India vs. Hafiz Saeed article.

no its not, read carefully without u r blind nationalism. u will realise that.

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  If Shiv Sena is free to roam about, if the culprits behind Babri Masjid destruction are still at large, if the Kashmiris are still being persecuted for their refusal to bow to India and if the murderers of Muslims in Gujrat are well and alive, then India loses any right to talk about H.Saeed.

these issues have been discussed to death in several forums. are u sure u wanna involve them in this issue. they have no relevance here.

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He was set free by a court, not by ISI orders.

we all know how and why he has been released. so i dont wanna comment more and hurt u r feelings.

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 Trying to pit US against Pakistan has failed before and it will fail again

US is already pitter against pakistan. india isnt doing that. It is US govt which is saying that u r playing a double game.

In my opinion u r trying to run away from the real issue here.
 
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Why did you get upset? One needs not be a "blind nationalist" to realize that the article is indeed another one in a long list of India vs. H.Saeed series that so frequently make their way here.

The issues I mentioned really have been discussed to death, but unfortunately my "blind nationalism" hasn't allowed me to see proper discussions. Instead the threads where the above topics are mentioned were filled with vague posts about the Indian justice system and more demands for H.Saeed's transfer to India among others. None have so far proven Indian resolve to bring the perpretrators of the said topics to court.

If you look closely at my earlier post, you may be able to see that I mention it is in fact the US who speaks of double-game. There was no need to point out the obvious.

And somehow the real issue has evaded my attention, but if you would like to point it out as well, I would be sincerely grateful.
 
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ISI is on the same side as CIA. ISI and CIA are both in the same team. ISI is taking orders from CIA or else Raymond Davis wouldn't have been released.
 
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Problem only one:

Pain somewhere near but described by others.

We can understand increase of US covert spies in Pakistan in 2009 after massive joint intelligence meetings of USA, India, Israel & some EU countries and most part of this meetings consisted over group of three (Triangle) IUI.
Analyzing back years reports we feel not any surprise from above mention report.
 
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