Why Pakistan Should End Its Alliance with China

[Nasr]

Zionism is great! But I don't see why you need to bring it up here.

There isn't any point in telling a ignorant person that he is misguided.

 

[Rafi]

Our alliance is going from strength to strength, we are about to join their manned space programme.

We have to 2 true friends and allies China and the other is Turkey.

 

[denel]

that was a different time, but what is funny is that all of you choose to ignore the part where i said that USA killed millions in Iraq and Afghanistan and only concentrated on the China part. Bias much?

I am not ignoring, they are all guilty as well of genocide. Stand up for what is right is what I am saying.

 

[nahtanbob]

Who wrote this shit
China is our biggest trade partner and our economic futures are getting more and more tangled

Post your exports to China versus those to USA/Western Europe/Japan

Author fails to analyze or probably minimize the ramifications of Pakistan staying the course. Staying the course means Pakistan accepts second fiddle to Indian hegemony in South Asia and works against Chinese interests. In that scenario also Pakistan looses strategic independence which it so dearly covets. What break up of Soviet Union did was in fact an opportunity for Pakistan to create its own strategic backyard something that revolves around its sphere instead of existing structures. But the people in charge lacked a vision. Central Asia stills provides Pakistan with that hope to remain strategically independent and have their trade done through Pakistan. Ofcourse it will need infrastructure and it will need people to people contact something that should be welcomed so that the next generations of central Asia could connect with their own past as well which is very much connected in the shared history of the region.

you are assuming Central Asians and Afghans want to have anything to do with Pakistan

 

[Zibago]

Post your exports to China versus those to USA/Western Europe/Japan

1.5 billion dollars to China
6.92 to EU
1.6 billion to US

 

[jamal18]

 

[nahtanbob]

1.5 billion dollars to China
6.92 to EU
1.6 billion to US

The top export destinations of Pakistan are the United States ($3.5B), Germany ($1.9B), China ($1.85B), the United Kingdom ($1.46B) and Afghanistan ($1.39B).

The top import origins are China ($15.2B), the United Arab Emirates ($6.95B), Saudi Arabia ($2.53B), Indonesia($2.46B) and Japan ($2.37B).

 

[Zibago]

Afghans

The future rulers sure do

You are right your economies are getting tangled, but if you think thats good for you, you lack long term vision and knowledge, your imports are only gonna increase and local industries will die. The money from chinese investment isnt going to stay in pakistan etc etc. Anyway, just saying the tangling isnt so happy happy as you think. Dont feel i say that bcoz i am Indian and jealous, even we are suffering from trade deficit and lack of access to chinas market and we are already negotiating with them. You guys better start now.

Actually talks are going on with China over shifting its labour intensive units to Pakistan
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1997527/2-chinese-firms-ready-relocate-industrial-units/
We are in it for the long run that is why China is helping us with so many projects ranging from mega dams to nuclear plants

The top export destinations of Pakistan are the United States ($3.5B), Germany ($1.9B), China ($1.85B), the United Kingdom ($1.46B) and Afghanistan ($1.39B).

The top import origins are China ($15.2B), the United Arab Emirates ($6.95B), Saudi Arabia ($2.53B), Indonesia($2.46B) and Japan ($2.37B).

Certain sources give a lower number for US
https://www.ustradenumbers.com/country/pakistan/

 

[nahtanbob]

Pakistan has to get to the stage where it can be treated as an equal partner with whoever they negotiate with.

going around with a begging bowl for money puts you at a disadvantage

 

[CIA Mole]

Why would you want to end an alliance lol, a country should always seek more alliances

 

[M.Bison]

Pakistan should always try to maintain its alliance with China. Unfortunately, since its inception Pakistan has been surrounded by enemies. Pakistan has 0 friendly neighbors. Every single neighbor lays claim to Pakistani territory except for china. Even the fuckin omanis want gwadar back and we bought that with Cash. It is like the French asking for Louisiana territory back or the Russians asking for Alaska.

China is a world power that provides Pakistan with a decent alliance. It is a fairly strong nation, with a very good economy and decent military. It is a nation that has great potential in the coming future. Pakistan is also unique because it is a country that has the potential to make china energy independent.

The problem doesn't lie with china. The issue is with Pakistan. Pakistan does not have the political strength to unite. It has horrible military and political leadership that has always raped the nation. Pakistan will always be forced to look toward china as its savior and never it's equal. But this is not a Chinese problem this is a Pakistani problem. If china does invest heavily into Pakistani economy it wants something in return. Unfortunately, the way things are going Pakistan might end up becoming china's colony.


Arabs also have always been good with Pakistanis but they have their own issues. They can never be independent and are weak.

Americans and western europeans want to rule the world through chaos and they will never become true allies to any nation. If you look at the past, the Americans have done more harm to Pakistan than good. Just look at this bs war on terrorism and now the problems with Iran. If Pakistan never sided with the Americans in the war on terror and instead focused on its economy it would have been a different country. The military leadership at that time decided to buckle under the pressure and sold Pakistan for a very small price. Pakistan should actually cut all ties with the Americans and the Europeans. In the long term it will make Pakistan more independent.

The Russians could have been good allies with Pakistan but Pakistan burned that bridge when it decided to go to the "American block". I think in the coming future Pakistan can become friendlier with Russia because America sees India as a buffer for china.

 

[Kaleem.61]

I want to write final words. We don't believe in countries BUT ALLAH. AND ALLAH WILL DO THE BEST FOR US. Good and bad things are part of life but choosing the best is wisdom. We don't want to take the risk by picking usa or any other by leaving China. China is best choice among all other countries. so it's rubbish to say any thing about.

 

[lafete]

Never put all eggs in one basket. You don't want to be in a position where china can use Kashmir as a bargaining chip to resolve its own border dispute with India.

if China owns everything in Pakistan:
India cedes territory to resolve border dispute with China. China walks happy due to gaining land
Pakistan is forced by China to cede territory - India walks happy after net gain of land.

 

[Khafee]

Pakistan will do what is best for Pakistan.

All those who don't like it, can go sleep.

Navy guys are too polite.

I would say: "All those who don't like it, can go self immolate."

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Navy guys are too polite.

I would say: "All those who don't like it, can go self immolate."

Believe me bro, it's just the forum that we seem polite.