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Why Pakistan should be a Third Positionist State

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I posted a link of a article here about Major General. Tajammal Hussain Malik and his exploits in the Pakistani Armed Forces from its inception in 1947 to the early 1980s.The 2001 interview gave his opinions on how the country should be run it looks like he was for Third Position.Third Position is a political ideology that rejects both Capitalism and Communism as both materialistic ideologies.Third Position emphasizes on nationalism and nationalization of a nations resources, I think many people who are sincere with Pakistan should support Pakistan becoming a Third Position state.




What do you have to say about the theory that Pakistan should have a people’s army on the model of PLA of China.


I have always advocated that the entire nation should be armed and there should be regional territorial armies. But that is possible only, if our rulers come out of their palaces and start living in three bedroom houses and travel in small cars. There should be very little difference between rich and poor. Jagirdari system should be abolished and no single family be allowed to keep more than two or three squares of land. All the industry be nationalised and employees become the shareholders. There should be only one syllabus for education so that rich and poor have equal chances in the field of competition for all type of services. We should have a comparatively small army but highly proficient and hard hitting. They should be kept away from politics and concentrate on professional training. If Pakistani nation can be organised on these lines, I have no doubt that they can take Kashmir in a short span of time and can occupy a very honourable position among the comity of nations. This is not an empty dream. It is possible to achieve if we can find dedicated higher leadership to do so.

What in your opinion damaged Pakistan the most in terms of political leadership in the entire history of Pakistan from 1947 to date?

From the very beginning, Pakistan was ruled by the landed aristocracy and rich business class. Consequently, though technically Pakistan had become independent, British colonial ruling system continued to prevail. The common man drew very little benefit from it. After eleven years of democratic experience, Army took over the control of running the country’s administration. It is a lesson of history that military rule does more harm than good to the country. It destroys all the progressive institutions and runs the country like a unit on yearly training programme basis. Had Field Marshal Ayub Khan not proclaimed Martial Law in 1958, perhaps with the passage of time, the political forces would have reconciled and both East and West Pakistan would have continued to exist as one country.
 
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Pakistan is a very confusing entity to describe. It has democracy. It has theocracy. It has military rule. It has a functioning parliament. It has a judiciary and legal system which operates in a strange manner. And now, you wish to add a politburo communist mix to it.
 
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Pakistan is a very confusing entity to describe. It has democracy. It has theocracy. It has military rule. It has a functioning parliament. It has a judiciary and legal system which operates in a strange manner. And now, you wish to add a politburo communist mix to it.

Third Position is more closely aligned to anti Communism and anti Capitalist ideology anyways I would take a centralized Politburo over any Anglo influenced so called "Parliament" provided it works to industialize the nation, unite it and provide a balance between modernity and tradition
 
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Third Position is more closely aligned to anti Communism and anti Capitalist ideology anyways I would take a centralized Politburo over any Anglo influenced so called "Parliament" provided it works to industialize the nation, unite it and provide a balance between modernity and tradition
It worked in China but not in USSR. The reason being that China adjusted and changed it for its own purposes. If Pakistan gets leadership like Mao for 10 years and thereafter Xi for 20 years then I'm certain it will be streak aheads. Unfortunately not every country is so lucky
 
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It worked in China but not in USSR. The reason being that China adjusted and changed it for its own purposes. If Pakistan gets leadership like Mao for 10 years and thereafter Xi for 20 years then I'm certain it will be streak aheads. Unfortunately not every country is so lucky

It worked well for the USSR until Perostrokia and that idiot Gorbachev and his naive reforms but point is Pakistan isnt ideal for a Communist form of Government,Communists despise Religion and I am not in favor of that, Capitalism has not worked well for us either as its continued the wide gap between rich and poor and "preserved" the existing Anglo baboon order which why Third Position works well for Pakistan as its economically leftwards and socially conservative perfect for a country like Pakistan
 
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It worked well for the USSR until Perostrokia and that idiot Gorbachev and his naive reforms but point is Pakistan isnt ideal for a Communist form of Government,Communists despise Religion and I am not in favor of that, Capitalism has not worked well for us either as its continued the wide gap between rich and poor and "preserved" the existing Anglo baboon order which why Third Position works well for Pakistan as its economically leftwards and socially conservative perfect for a country like Pakistan

I'll be honest with you. My view is that all South Asian countries require some form of military dictatorship for at least 50 years uninterrupted. Progress can only follow on that path
 
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I'll be honest with you. My view is that all South Asian countries require some form of military dictatorship for at least 50 years uninterrupted. Progress can only follow on that path

The problem is the Pakistani Army had a chance to fix but sadly filled with Anglo Baboons
 
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are the people of Pakistan more like the Chinese or more like the Russians? If they can be cowed and mowed down like the Chinese, sure a Capitalistic Communism will greatly advance Pakistan as it did China. OTOH, if the people of Pakistan has in sufficient numbers, people who value their ancient culture, individual freedoms and not become plastic, it'd be a hard road
 
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Im not in favor of giving too much power to just a certain group, we want all the parties involved in trying to make our country better together

My personal opinion is, Allah has given us everything. Way to live our lifes from diet to excercises to how to maintain purification as well.

As you can see in the world, if you just go against these simple things that I just mentioned you have Pandemics like swine flu, corona virus, etc...

Everything that Allah has told us to do is now with so much advancements in technology and sciences is proving to be true in this world and as Allah mentioned He will show us signs from the horizons and from within ourselves.

What Im trying to say is strict shariah law in the form of capitalism is the best way to go. Everyone must know this is a Muslim country that offers freedom of Religion to every citizen of its country but not at the expense of Islam. Dont try to reform Islam because thats declaring War on Allah and telling Him we know more than He does.

When You follow the Shariah, everyone is ordered from Allah to keep your horses and weapons ready.
 
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Im not in favor of giving too much power to just a certain group, we want all the parties involved in trying to make our country better together

My personal opinion is, Allah has given us everything. Way to live our lifes from diet to excercises to how to maintain purification as well.

As you can see in the world, if you just go against these simple things that I just mentioned you have Pandemics like swine flu, corona virus, etc...

Everything that Allah has told us to do is now with so much advancements in technology and sciences is proving to be true in this world and as Allah mentioned He will show us signs from the horizons and from within ourselves.

What Im trying to say is strict shariah law in the form of capitalism is the best way to go. Everyone must know this is a Muslim country that offers freedom of Religion to every citizen of its country but not at the expense of Islam. Dont try to reform Islam because thats declaring War on Allah and telling Him we know more than He does.

When You follow the Shariah, everyone is ordered from Allah to keep your horses and weapons ready.

That's understanble but you understand that Capitalism is itself a foreign ideology as well
 
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I posted a link of a article here about Major General. Tajammal Hussain Malik and his exploits in the Pakistani Armed Forces from its inception in 1947 to the early 1980s.The 2001 interview gave his opinions on how the country should be run it looks like he was for Third Position.Third Position is a political ideology that rejects both Capitalism and Communism as both materialistic ideologies.Third Position emphasizes on nationalism and nationalization of a nations resources, I think many people who are sincere with Pakistan should support Pakistan becoming a Third Position state.




What do you have to say about the theory that Pakistan should have a people’s army on the model of PLA of China.


I have always advocated that the entire nation should be armed and there should be regional territorial armies. But that is possible only, if our rulers come out of their palaces and start living in three bedroom houses and travel in small cars. There should be very little difference between rich and poor. Jagirdari system should be abolished and no single family be allowed to keep more than two or three squares of land. All the industry be nationalised and employees become the shareholders. There should be only one syllabus for education so that rich and poor have equal chances in the field of competition for all type of services. We should have a comparatively small army but highly proficient and hard hitting. They should be kept away from politics and concentrate on professional training. If Pakistani nation can be organised on these lines, I have no doubt that they can take Kashmir in a short span of time and can occupy a very honourable position among the comity of nations. This is not an empty dream. It is possible to achieve if we can find dedicated higher leadership to do so.

What in your opinion damaged Pakistan the most in terms of political leadership in the entire history of Pakistan from 1947 to date?

From the very beginning, Pakistan was ruled by the landed aristocracy and rich business class. Consequently, though technically Pakistan had become independent, British colonial ruling system continued to prevail. The common man drew very little benefit from it. After eleven years of democratic experience, Army took over the control of running the country’s administration. It is a lesson of history that military rule does more harm than good to the country. It destroys all the progressive institutions and runs the country like a unit on yearly training programme basis. Had Field Marshal Ayub Khan not proclaimed Martial Law in 1958, perhaps with the passage of time, the political forces would have reconciled and both East and West Pakistan would have continued to exist as one country.
We cannot do anymore experiments.
This system should be corrected in entirety but no more experiments please.
 
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Pakistan is a very confusing entity to describe. It has democracy. It has theocracy. It has military rule. It has a functioning parliament. It has a judiciary and legal system which operates in a strange manner. And now, you wish to add a politburo communist mix to it.
Just like we added democracy into it.
Or may be you already know the answer. It will be like : aik rang or sahi.
 
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