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Editor's note: Fawaz A. Gerges is a professor of Middle Eastern politics and international relations at the London School of Economics, London University. He is author of "The Far Enemy: Why Jihad Went Global."

London (CNN) -- On a recent visit to India, British Prime Minister David Cameron had this to say about Pakistan, historically a close friend of the West's: "We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror, whether to India or whether to Afghanistan or anywhere else in the world."

Seen by the Pakistani government as a slap in the face, Cameron's remarks almost caused a diplomatic breach in relations between the two countries. His remarks followed the leaking of U.S. documents on the WikiLeaks website in which Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency was accused of secretly aiding and inflaming the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan, and they engendered a heated debate in Western capitals on whether Pakistan is a friend or a foe.

The dominant narrative in the West now is that Pakistan is a foe, playing a double game, guiding the Afghan insurgency with a hidden hand even as it receives more than $1 billion a year from Washington for its help in combating al Qaeda and like-minded groups.

"The burden of proof is on the government of Pakistan and the ISI to show they don't have ongoing contacts" with the militants, said U.S. Sen. Jack Reed, a Democrat on the powerful Armed Services Committee who visited Pakistan this month.

During a July visit to Pakistan, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton publicly aired Washington's suspicion and mistrust of its ally by stating that she believed that someone in the Pakistan government knew where al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was hiding in the country's tribal regions along the border with Afghanistan.

Clinton's statement was an implicit indictment of Pakistan's double game; it was met with angry denials by Pakistani leaders, who said the U.S. undervalued their support and sacrifice in battling al Qaeda.

What this simplistic argument neglects is that Pakistan serves its own vital national interests and cooperates with the West only to advance those interests.

An underlying premise in inter-state relations is that nations have only interests and no permanent friends. That is the game nations have played since the establishment of the state system in the Peace of Westphalia in 1648. Pakistan's foreign policy is a case in point.

Throughout the Cold War rivalry between the U.S.-led Western alliance and the Soviet camp, Pakistan allied itself with the West and fought devastating wars against India, its strategic rival and a close friend of communist China and Russia. The Pakistan leadership leveraged the Cold War to extract military and technical aid from the United States and the Western powers.

When Soviet troops invaded Afghanistan, Pakistan acted as America's spearhead in the fight against the "evil empire," and its Inter-Services Intelligence agency was in charge of the CIA's expansive campaign to train, arm and guide the Afghan mujahedeen, including the bin Laden contingent of the Afghan Arabs.

More than any other power, Pakistan played a key role in the armed resistance that turned Afghanistan into Russia's Vietnam. In return, Pakistan's security forces received logistical and financial aid from the U.S., but more important, Pakistan gained the upper hand in Afghanistan, becoming a paramount arbiter of its neighbor's internal affairs.

After the Soviet forces retreated in defeat in 1989 and Afghanistan plunged into all-out civil war, Pakistani leaders felt deserted by the U.S. and had to pick up the shattered pieces and bring about a measure of stability to the war-torn country. Once the Soviet Union collapsed, the U.S. had no interest in either Afghanistan or Pakistan, relics of the Cold War.

Pakistan relied on the Taliban, a student-led Islamic-based social movement that burst into the scene and imposed a draconian order wrapped in an Islamic emirate in Afghanistan in the 1990s. Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency nourished a close connection with the Taliban and consolidated its hegemony over the broken country.

Although Pakistan was a close friend of the U.S.'s from the 1950s until 1989, the 1990s marked the beginning of suspicion and distrust between the two countries. The Pakistani leadership, particularly the security apparatus, felt scorned and abandoned by its former superpower patron, which cut Pakistan off from military aid because of its nuclear weapons program and threatened to impose sanctions on it.

There is more to the relationship between Pakistan and the West than the simple dichotomy of "either/or."

For example, since last year, U.S. officials say the Pakistani military has launched a powerful offensive against the Pakistan Taliban, who are allied with the Afghan Taliban, because the former began to threaten the current Pakistani government. (The Pakistani military has suffered more than 2,000 casualties, and hundreds of thousands of ordinary citizens have been displaced.)

The Pakistani military insists that it is waging all-out war against both al Qaeda and its extremist allies -- the Pakistan Taliban -- and U.S. officials concur that they have seen a shift in the country's attitudes toward the Taliban in the past 18 months.

On the other hand, the Pakistan military appears to be reluctant to attack the Afghan Taliban, as the West demands, because it wants to leverage the Taliban in any future settlement in Afghanistan. For the Pakistani leadership, the Afghan Taliban are an important bargaining card, a strategic reserve on which they could rely when Western troops exit the war-torn country.

Like their Western nemesis, the Afghan Taliban bitterly complain that the Pakistanis are playing a "double game" with them and say that they "feed us with one hand and arrest and kill us with the other." There is no love lost between Pakistan and the Taliban, a relationship based on self-interests and political considerations.

Pakistan's strategic rivalry with India outweighs any pressure exerted by the West on Islamabad to end support for the Afghan Taliban. Pakistan's conduct via Afghanistan is driven by geostrategic concerns and fear of Indian influence in its backyard, not by intrinsic hostility or friendship toward the West or the Afghan Taliban.

If the Western powers want to drive a wedge between Pakistan and the Afghan Taliban, they must address Pakistan's geostrategic concerns and interests via India. An effective settlement of the Afghan-Pakistan conflict must be region-wide and involve India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and China, an almost impossible mission.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Fawaz A. Gerges.

Why Pakistan plays a double game - CNN.com
 
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Yanks cant be trusted, i guess what ISI is doing is prety good and Cameroon gaved my fears more strenth. Guys in ISI fear the India -West Partnership against Pakistan and Cameroon shouted that out loud.. i gues Peeps in Pakistan are now absolutely sure and have put there full confidance and belief upon the How the ISI works to contour its enemies.. !!!
 
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The issue is very foggy. We cannot get the correct details whats happening inside. However, if the suspicion is true then Pak govt has to sort out the issue. Make it loud and clear that the current pakistan does not support terrorist activities, no matter how they are related.

Frankly speaking, I also believe that now most of the pakistani people are fed up of radical islam and I believe they have full right to be trusted as a peace loving people.
 
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Actually I totally disagree. Pakistan should continue the path by ensuring that our partners understand why is it that we need to maintain a balance in our relationships in Afghanistan.

If strategic encirclement is a threat to us, our partners need to understand this to be the reason why we cannot stop hedging our support. Pakistan's problems would be much more complicated if the situation in Afghanistan was left to be one in which Pakistan's interests were going to get undermined.

In the end, all sides need to realize that it cannot be a zero sum game for Pakistan only. There is a need for some give and take here. Pakistan is only pushing for an environment which would facilitate this give and take.
 
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ISI needs to orchestate a massacre of British troops entrapped in Afghanistan to bring this loud mouth under control. It worked well with the Americans it would do the same with British too.

with an attitude like this ,dont expect the other world nations to stop linking pakistan and terrorism.......

and besides your post openly declares in a public forum that....

1)pakistan establishment is involved in terrorist activities (in other words exporting,directly aiding,and creating terrorists).

2)your nation can do nothing on its own-say militarily...and you rely on cowardly terrorist activities as your main source of strength(thus undermining/or showing your military as a weak structure on its own without terrorist help).

all the above is just an inference of your post above and nothing more.....
 
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with an attitude like this ,dont expect the other world nations to stop linking pakistan and terrorism.......


and besides your post openly declares in a public forum that....

1)pakistan establishment is involved in terrorist activities (in other words exporting,directly aiding,and creating terrorists).

What an individual who has nothing to do with the state says is irrelevant. They can say that Pakistan should support such and such group, but that's their opinion and has nothing to do with the state. What I am trying to say is that what he says proves nothing regarding Pakistan is supporting Taliban or not.

2)your nation can do nothing on its own-say militarily...and you rely on cowardly terrorist activities as your main source of strength(thus undermining/or showing your military as a weak structure on its own without terrorist help).

all the above is just an inference of your post above and nothing more.....

So by the same logic India using Mukhti Bahini, US using Mujhahideen means they rely on cowardly terrorist activities as their main source of strength(thus undermining/or showing their military as a weak structure on its own without terrorist help)
 
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What an individual who has nothing to do with the state says is irrelevant. They can say that Pakistan should support such and such group, but that's their opinion and has nothing to do with the state. What I am trying to say is that what he says proves nothing regarding Pakistan is supporting Taliban or not.



So by the same logic India using Mukhti Bahini, US using Mujhahideen means they rely on cowardly terrorist activities as their main source of strength(thus undermining/or showing their military as a weak structure on its own without terrorist help)



mukthi bhani-----were bangladeshi people who were tormented.... indian army went to war directly with pakistan- if you remember the 93000 pow's ...there was no indian terrorist involved........

US used mujahdeen-i agree....but who was directly responsible for their creation? - pakistan....did your army directly fight with the soviets---i guess not coz if you did the soviets would have launched a war on pakistan......

coming to isi aided terrorists(based on wiki leaks/references by various world nations accusing isi of funding and training terrorists----search the net for sources you will find ample) ...they are pakistani's creating trouble in practically all over the world......and they are directly aided by your military.....


and besides you cant argue that the taliban(the taliban are not totally afgans-they were agroup of mujhadeen consisting of people of various nationalities and as such cannot rule afganistan) are freedom fighters or something...when there are other people in the nation who have formed the govt.....
 
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mukthi bhani-----were bangladeshi people who were tormented.... indian army went to war directly with pakistan- if you remember the 93000 pow's ...there was no indian terrorist involved........

US used mujahdeen-i agree....but who was directly responsible for their creation? - pakistan....did your army directly fight with the soviets---i guess not coz if you did the soviets would have launched a war on pakistan......

coming to isi aided terrorists(based on wiki leaks/references by various world nations accusing isi of funding and training terrorists----search the net for sources you will find ample) ...they are pakistani's creating trouble in practically all over the world......and they are directly aided by your military.....


and besides you cant argue that the taliban(the taliban are not totally afgans-they were agroup of mujhadeen consisting of people of various nationalities and as such cannot rule afganistan) are freedom fighters or something...when there are other people in the nation who have formed the govt.....

hey wise guy

dont loose any heart over this conversation

the comments by "YOUR" friend called banned were meant to be flamatory
I doubt if he is a Pakistani
your self righteous & continued response just add to my suspicions
I have already reported him

rest assured his IP will be monitored & we will know who he really is and where he is posting his comments.
 
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mukthi bhani-----were bangladeshi people who were tormented.... indian army went to war directly with pakistan- if you remember the 93000 pow's ...there was no indian terrorist involved........

But India did use them as the proxy for quite a while.

US used mujahdeen-i agree....but who was directly responsible for their creation? - pakistan....did your army directly fight with the soviets---i guess not coz if you did the soviets would have launched a war on pakistan......

Doesn't matter dude. US was the main funder and weapons and weapons provider. You can divert from that by mentioning that Pakistan was involved too, but it doesn't negate the fact that so was US. The reason why that is significant is because of the following you said:

2)your nation can do nothing on its own-say militarily...and you rely on cowardly terrorist activities as your main source of strength(thus undermining/or showing your military as a weak structure on its own without terrorist help).

coming to isi aided terrorists(based on wiki leaks/references by various world nations accusing isi of funding and training terrorists----search the net for sources you will find ample) ...they are pakistani's creating trouble in practically all over the world......and they are directly aided by your military.....

Nah, there's absolutely no proof. Again, for the 1,000,000,000,000,000 time, the reports only contain allegations - no proof at all. They are unverified, raw, and from AFGHAN INTELLIGENCE.

and besides you cant argue that the taliban(the taliban are not totally afgans-they were agroup of mujhadeen consisting of people of various nationalities and as such cannot rule afganistan) are freedom fighters or something...when there are other people in the nation who have formed the govt.....

Well they were freedom fighters for the US when they were fighting the soviets, no? And one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
 
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Who plays a double game Pakistan or the US/NATO? American policy makers say Pakistan maintains contacts with Talib leaders, and yet is it not true that Afghan government, UK and US themselves maintain contacts with Talib leadership, after all, what is the reconcilliation and reintegration policy all about? Weren't the Afghan government supported by the NATO talking to the Talib leadership?

Here's the crux, the heart of this IO campaign - the US wants Pakistan to turn over it's interests and all it's assets to the US and in doing so relinquish any claim to any interest in Afghanistan -- like people in hell imagine they will get ice water.

The greater the display of duplicity by the US/NATO the more remote the possiblity of peace in Afghanistan, because well, the US/NATO succeed only in losing credibility and trust, not just among the Afghan population but among other players with legitimate interests.
 
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Who is playing a double game, who is duplitious? - You decide (with some help)


Kabul wants more Taliban off UN ‘blacklist’

KABUL: Afghanistan asked the United Nations on Tuesday to remove more Taliban leaders from its sanctions terror list as part of efforts to end a deadly insurgency in the war-hit country. The request by the powerful National Security Council of Afghanistan follows the removal of 10 Taliban and 35 al Qaeda members from the blacklist by the world body earlier this month. After assessments, the National Security Council has recently sent a list comprised of 47 people to the UN to be removed from the blacklist, a statement said. Afghanistan took another step towards implementing the decisions of the peace jirga, the statement said. Individuals on the list are subject to asset freezes, a travel ban and an arms embargo.
The Afghan government has offered an olive branch to militants in return for reconciliation
. afp


Isn't that interesting The Afghan government that the US installed, in other other words, the US government, maintains contact with Talib, the UN security council itself maintains contact with the Talib, but Pakistan ought not, right??
 
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I don't know if Pakistan plays double role but if it does than there are pros and cons. One of the benefit is that we can maintain our relationship with Pushtoons, freedom fighters and with our wester counterparts etc On the other hand it disappoints me because we have lost so many soldiers, I repeat so many that it is not worth it to play a double role. On the contrary, double role means that we wanna keep our 'allies' happy and our long term partners in Afghanistan as well. However, by supporting our allies means a greater causality level which leaves us to one conclusion. Either eliminate all the fighters OR stop fighting the 'foreign war'--Now, many people will take me wrong when I said foreign war. Let me clear my position, it is a fact that we are suffering from blasts etc so eliminate the real terrorists while protect the freedom fighters--
 
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Saad


"Double game" is merely a useful characterization for the US/NATO - On one hand they accuse Pakistan and on the other they engage in the same thng thwey accuse Pakistan of doing. So it's merely a propaganda or pressure tool -- So the question arises why are they willing to do that? And the answer, I suggest, is that they are seeking to pressure Pakistan to drop the pursuit of her interests and instead help the pursuit of US/NATO interests - these two sets of interest have commonalities, for instance we all wish to see an end to terrorism, particularly terrorism that seeks to use Islam to justify itself, on the other hand, whereas Pakistan seeks a unified peaceful, friendly Afghanistan and enables Pakistani trade and access to central Asia, US/NATO seek to deny such a facility to Pakistan and to ensure that Pakistan's regional rivals are assured exactly such a facility, while also ensuring that neither peace will come to Afghanistan, nor a friendly governent will be allowed in Afghanistan.
 
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We don't care what contacts you keep with who ever you want in your own country. What you can't be allowed to help and encourage or allow militants to terrorise another country. You can adopt any political appraoch in to resolving your matters as will Afghansitan do what is deemed aproperiate for its own interests. Is that hard to fathom? Afghanistan line has been consitent with Taliban: renounce violence and join the political process, so what is the ambiguity? The double game here is exporting terrorism as a foreign policy tool, lets get that right. Enough is said in this thread to prove that. Thank you.
 
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