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In my opinion new province should be like this,
1 Kalash(Chitral & purchase Budhakshan from Afghanistan to make it) Chitral
2 Gilgit & Baltistan Capital: Gilgit
3 Khyber(Northern FATA) Capital: Khyber
4 Waziristan(North & South) Capital: Wana
5 Khyber Pukhtunkhwa Capital: Peshawar
6 Hazara Capital: Abbottabad
7 Azad Kashmir Capital: Muzzaffarabad
8 Potohar(North Western Punjab) Capital: RawalPindi
9 Punjab(North Eastern & Upper Central Punjab) Capital: Faisalabad
10 Seraikistan(South Punjab) Capital: Multan
11 Pakland(Karachi, Hyderabad & Jamshoro) Capital: Jamshoro
12 Sindh(exclude Karachi, Hyderabad & Jamshoro) Capital: Sukkur
13 Makran(Chaghai & Southern Balochistan) Capital: Gawadar
14 North Balochistan Capital: Quetta
15 South Balochistan Capital: Kalat
16 Islamabad Capital Territory.
What say
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Germany or France, which have 16 and 18
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13 regions to be exact.
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Now,about how regions are drawn,Pakistan is totally different with different situations.
Then who's going to appoint more ministers and fill their pockets with more money .
You're forgotten about Overseas provinces, I was merely giving an over-view. It is true that the situations are drastically different. Frances provinces are predominantly from the Ancient Regime and the various dukedoms and other nobility related holdings which existed prior to the French Revolution.
However, the Regions still are economically and administratively effective. My point was to make provinces which are economically and administratively effective. You cannot have provinces which are economically effective but are administrative disasters nor easily administrated provinces which are economically unreliable. A balance must be struck, this is not the case for Pakistan. It's borders are arbitrary, stemming from the British partition which could not predict the value of these new provinces .
For this a strong leader is required and a new constitution. A strong leader can only arise if the situation becomes dire enough. It hurts me to say this but the Pakistani people are just not that interested in the political power they wield for they have fallen in the trap of thinking, "I am but one person, what change can I bring about?", this thinking needs to be changed, if a well-educated, honourable person puts himself or herself forward for elections, we need to trow our support behind them and ensure they have the two-thirds majority to change the provinces and the constitution.
Until Pakistani's have suffered to the breaking point they will not value the blessing of good governance nor the effort required to build it. There are almost 300 political parties in Pakistan. A people this divided cannot build a strong government.
In my opinion, there needs to be a leader who can define what it means to be Pakistani, this identity was created for Indian Muslims but since then we have attempt our level-best to distance ourselves from India and have divided ourselves over religion. Basic concepts such as Hard-working, austerity, discipline, a sense of duty, sincerity, a sense of justice and order can start the engine towards unifying the people behind a concept of one-Pakistan. Once we as a nation can form an identity, we can move towards instilling a sense of duty to the concept of Pakistan, this will encourage anti-corruption.
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Well you've very nice thoughts but I don't think we can ever have such a government that you described .
Our country moves around from bhutto to sharif them sharif to bhutto ..
It pains me to see the course of action our despicable leaders have taken.
I have the pleasure and honour to live in the UAE. It's first ruler Sheikh Zayed could have used the immense oil profits that his nation made for himself but no, he aimed to make the lives of his people, his people my friend, better. He worked day and night to build the United Arab Emirates from a patchwork of tribes and villages and miles of lonely sand and desert to the thriving metropolis it is today of immense wealth which is used for the right things.
I have had the pleasure and honour to live in the UK. It struck me that no matter what the internal conflict of the political parties of the UK, they never, ever, did anything against the overall strength, integrity and economic prowess of the nation.
And then we have us and our elected leaders. Who have used the wealth of the Indus and beauty of the Himalayas for their personal wealth and left the people to fend for themselves bring hunger, famine, disease and death upon our brothers and sisters. Who have sold our people and their lands wealth to foreign trans-national companies and allowed the drain of our brightest minds to serve in the economies of others.
All I can do is pray, learn and hope that one day someday someone comes with the vision to lead our nation. I will do more civic duty to inform others, preach to others and learn from others.
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Yes I hope too that we could also have such great sincere leaders .
Right now I see hope in imran khan , he's such blunt , honest and anti corruption . He's a gift from God .
Well, Vergennes comparing France with Pakistan is like apples and oranges. The two have entirely differant historical and ethno-social trajectories. Pakistan is a federation and is not a generic state. What many of the members here do not appreciate is Pakistan came after and the generic provinces that make it came before. Pakistan is the child of the provinces.13 regions to be exact.
Before you jump the gun on me, I think provinces in Pakistan should be created strictly for administrative purposes (based on urban centers & economic growth), not ethnic or lingual grounds.
Some facts about Pakistan: Punjab contributes about 57%, Sindh contributes about 28%, KPK contributes about 8%, Balochistan about 3%, FATA about 1%, Northern Areas about 1%, & Islamabad capital territory about 2% of Pakistan's GDP.
Karachi itself contributes about 20% of Pakistan's GDP. Lahore contributes about 12% of Pakistan's economy. The third largest city of Pakistan, Faisalabad contributes about 9% of Pakistan's GDP.
These are the main 10 'urban centers/cities' of Pakistan, namely: Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad/Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Hyderabad, Peshawar, Quetta, Multan, Gujranwala/Sialkot.
The three cities; Lahore, Sialkot & Gujranwala are located very close to each other. Faisalabad is located at a 'reasonable distance' from Lahore/Sialkot/Gujranwala, but still, not that far away from them either. In other words, these four cities are found in a pretty concentrated area.
Multan (in central-south Punjab) & Bahwalpur (close to the Punjab-Sindh border) is left isolated from these cities. A huge amount of resources are being spent on Lahore/Sialkot/Gujranwala, but nearly not enough on Multan & Bahwalpur, even though they are very important cities. In other words, South Punjab has been left a bit isolated from the growth of central-North Punjab. The urban centers are confined, & need to be spread out more. A new South Punjab state will help develop Multan & Bahawulpur urban centers even faster. As of now, Multan is being envisioned as a future 'Pearl City', & lots of work is being done to develop it. These efforts should only be increased, & South Punjab needs to be put in perspective.
In Sindh, the two urban centers of Karachi & Hyderabad are located at a reasonable distance, but both are in South Sindh. The urbanization of Bahawalpur in South Punjab close to North Sindh will help urbanization spread into North Sindh as well.
In Balochistan, Quetta is the biggest urban center. But it is also very volatile being close to the Afghan border. Army must make prolonged efforts to make it safe (which will eventually result in prosperous city). Gwadar must be developed & urbanized at a quicker pace so that the Baloch people can reap its benefits. Mining in Zhob is already taking place. But the distance between Quetta & Gwadar is too great, & there should be another urban center in between Quetta & Gwadar.
In my opinion, there must be at least 2-3 urban centers in each province/region, that are reasonably distanced from each other & not confined together, & do not have any safety/security concerns.
Currently:
a) Sindh has Karachi & Hyderabad
b) Punjab has Lahore & Faisalabad
c) Northern Pakistan (KPK & Northern Areas) has Islamabad-Rawalpindi/Abbottabad & Peshawar (a bit unsafe these days)
d) Balochistan has Quetta (very unsafe these days)
e) Azad Kashmir has Muzzaffarabad
Security must be enhanced in Peshawar & (especially) Quetta. Pakistan must give provincial status to South Punjab, Hazaras (maybe), & create more urban centers within the country. Great work is being done in Multan, this must be extended to Bahawalpur, Gwadar & other cities.