'Why Pakistan does not pay India back in the same coin?'

[KhanBaba2]

He wants 32 and you want 56.

Both should present their views in a fair manner and i will see which one has more substance.

Begin

You wanted 56. I wanted 3.

To begin with, we've our original name.

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Doesn't everyone. Any other country you know that has Bharat as it name.

 

[arjunk]

now theyre going to say that they invented nukes and planes in 10,000bc when their country ruled everything from afghanistan to china to indonesia.

 

[Lt General]

Doesn't everyone. Any other country you know that has Bharat as it name.

Wrong.

Historically, Bharat refers to the present day territories Pakistan, Nepal & Bangladesh. The inverted U if you will put above the map of Melukhkha it will cover it from three sides.

That's when Bhuddism started to take root in these regions that the ancient Melukhkhians started to call out the name of these regions as Bharat and badly wanted to take these territories back from Buddhist influence.

Now don't manipulate this fact that Bharat was named after some King Bharata who freed the regions of present day Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh because he didn't, Bhuddist left the region without violence and war because they didn't believe in bloodshed. They moved to Tibet, China, Korea, and Japan. If you start to name your country after one Raja, many other Raja's alongwith other mythological figures will be disappointed. So dont even try that. No single person can defeat a religion or take an entire territory back. Just like you guys invented the Hindu name Kashya to refer the origins of name Kashmir because guess what? It's so easy to invent. Talking comes easy to you guys, and research difficult.

That said, the "Indian" constitution as unoriginal a piece of document it is records the name of land as Bharat wrongly.

This original and the oldest name of when this civilization was thriving alongside Mesopotamia was Melukhkha.

Craft your name along the lines of Melukhkha to claim an originality.

PS: I have yet to know Melukhkha and Maleecha are cousin words. They so sound related. Anyways it's the most original (and most ancient) word Meluhhians had for themselves.

You wanted 56. I wanted 3.

Forget 32. A mere 2 are enough to create a fracture line in the fabric of 'the largest democracy of the world,' and you know which 2 am I talking about. Thank Pakistan a ton who does not fan these as much as it could and should have in addition to blocking the eastward winds of terrorism without absorbing which Malukhkha would have jolted to its core and there would have been no one to blame.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Wrong.

Historically, Bharat refers to the present day territories Pakistan, Nepal & Bangladesh. The inverted U if you will put above the map of Melukhkha it will cover it from three sides.

How can you decide which Bharat our country is named after ?

That said, the "Indian" constitution as unoriginal a piece of document it is records the name of land as Bharat wrongly.

And now we are back to taking about the whether India copies or not. The topic is still whether Pakistan copies or is original. And the only original thing you have given is the name of your country.

 

[Lt General]

How can you decide which Bharat our country is named after ?

1. Melukhkha (The most ancient name of land as recorded in Sumerian and Mesopotemian texts)
2. Jambudvipa (from Purana text)
3. Aryavarta (Aryans invaded and named it)
4. Nabhivarsa (from Jain texts)
5. Bharata (after reducing the rising budhist influence the land was named after the king)
6. India (Greek invaders named it)
7. Hindustan (Persian rulers of India names it)
8. British India (the colony)
9. Bharat (the constitution of India calls it)

I told you what plenty Indians don't know. Pick one.

Hint: Don't pick the name what your constitution chooses to retain an originality.

And now we are back to taking about the whether India copies or not. The topic is still whether Pakistan copies or is original. And the only original thing you have given is the name of your country.

Pakistan does not copy its name or rely on others to define it. It's an original name.

What part of that you find difficult to understand?

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

Melukhkha

I like this word actually. But we are fine with India.

People should stop going back to what word denoted what region. In the present, India is India, from Kashmir in the North, Gujarat in the West, North-eastern states till TN and Kerala in the South.

We don't really bother with what was Bharat/Hindustan/India in the ancient times.

 

[Lt General]

I like this word actually. But we are fine with India.

People should stop going back to what word denoted what region. In the present, India is India, from Kashmir in the North, Gujarat in the West, North-eastern states till TN and Kerala in the South.

We don't really bother with what was Bharat/Hindustan/India in the ancient times.

That's really a practical way of thinking. But I'll tell you what's not practical. India was a colony. Indians (Modi answered a US journalist on his visit to Trump in USA) give an impression that their 'country' was divided by Muslims - India never was a country to begin with. That's factually wrong. Jinnah preferred to call partition by Muslims India (Pakistan) & Hindu India (Bharat).

And I tell you what's more practical. Countries, when they make or break do a reality check and change their names accordingly. USSR after breaking did a reality check and named itself Russia. East Pakistan named itself Bangladesh. But India is still India even after imploding. Burma renamed itself to Myanmar because it was called Burma under British rule.

When India does not do a reality check, calls it by a name based on the River Indus forming the lifeline of Pakistan, forgets River Ganga which is included in their national anthem, not declude two sovereign territories of Pakistan from their national anthem to signal a co-existence to its neighbor, the original Pakistan will always be there to thwart India's revisionist and expansionist tendencies as demonstrated by the existence of two countries by 70 years.

On the internet, and outside of it I find it very tiresome to make 'Indians' understand. If one understands, the other doesn't. But Pakistani's aren't worried about anything as long as Indians are not practical or don't do serious thinking except for going where the blowing wind takes them to.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Pakistan does not copy its name or rely on others to define it. It's an original name.

So after claiming to be original, the only original thing you can come up with is still the name of your country.

 

[Lt General]

So after claiming to be original, the only original thing you can come up with is still the name of your country.

Alhamdulillah.

 

[ali_raza]

Kids and morons are ruining this forum.

filter the forum

 

[THE DESERT FOX]

in short pakistan cannot respond to indias acts of violence as we have no economic influence over others and that our diplomatic efforts have failed to prove that we are a peaceful state and that we have also failed to counter indias propaganda against us.this is why we are on the backfoot

 

[El Sidd]

You wanted 56. I wanted 3.

I assumed Modi wanted 56. You wanted 3 but haven't conquered Dhaka still

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

What is there for us to copy from Bharat? Enlighten us.

@halupridol @KhanBaba2

Do these count? Are they even factually correct?

1. First woman PM

2. Nuclear test

3. Reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan

4. IPL type cricket league

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[Crusher]

It must be the cowardice of the upper echelon of Pakistani state, cannot think of any other reason.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Sure, ignored Indian trolls. I know why they regularly need to troll, and the reason is in the last sentence of this post.

Feb 27? Don't miss the wood for the trees. August 05, 2019 should have been the point of no return for Pakistan, at least by Indian calculations. But we dodged India even on that. What was a headache to them has only increased ever since.

The lesson for us Pakistan is peace and progress. So that other nationalities in India (there are 32 of them) associate progress with separation from inept Delhi Hindu rule.

And this is going to come without Pakistan firing a single bullet.

If we play into Delhi's game to repay them in kind ... know that Pakistan is the only factor that unites the otherwise divided India.

No country will find resistance at two fronts easy. Pakistan has other options even if peace in Afghanistan isn't achieved. Pakistan can easily frustrate India by supporting Khalistan movement alongside Kashmir's. China can support Mao's. But instead Pakistan offered Kartarpur Corridor to India.

Why do it yourself when your enemy will do it for you? Use your enemies energies against itself. Not yours.

If Pakistan manages to come out clean through all conflicts, and demonstrate to Indian masses that Pakistan is not their enemy, trust me, Indians will take it on each other. Hitherto, we've have not given a chance for them to do so.



The likes of him commit suicide at the end. Seriously.

But shouldn't India be given time?

Quoting Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar, "Nation-building is a difficult and complex exercise, and initial resistance can give way to the integration of regional aspirations into a larger national identity — the end of Tamil secessionism was a classical example of this."

If Pakistan is confident of moral correctness of it's stance, it should keep it's hands off. But it still contemplates interfering with India's internal matters like Khalistan, Maoism and there's allegation that the anti-CAA protests were sponsored by ISI.

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@padamchen

Go through the quoted posts above. Is it true? You should know by virtue of your profession.

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