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Why Pakistan cannot say sorry to Bangladesh

And coming from the one that actually helped Muktos to kill many and paint it as Pakistan Army doing. It is a shame that Modi acknowledged the same openly yet no sane mind take it to him as this is not something to be proud of.



Rather, India should thank Pakistan as you are breathing freely today.

"Acknowledged the same openly" - it has been openly acknowledged since Dec 1971 - what new thing did he exactly say?

You are a moderator?


Next you will be telling me India sent 10 million Pakistani refugees into India.
 
"Acknowledged the same openly" - it has been openly acknowledged since Dec 1971 - what new thing did he exactly say?

You are a moderator?


Next you will be telling me India sent 10 million Pakistani refugees into India.

No I am telling to have some audacity to tell the truth. Why the half for making fun. Indeed, India is responsible for the genocide that firstly provoked them, disguised as Bengalis and attacked Pakistan Army then created Muktos and supported them with Army men which conducted the most inhuman genocide and other crimes over Bengalis.
 
No I am telling to have some audacity to tell the truth. Why the half for making fun. Indeed, India is responsible for the genocide that firstly provoked them, disguised as Bengalis and attacked Pakistan Army then created Muktos and supported them with Army men which conducted the most inhuman genocide and other crimes over Bengalis.

The truth?
Do you have any credible international source to back up this wild theory of yours - that Indians disguised as Bengalis attacked PA before PA started its butchering?
 
The truth?
Do you have any credible international source to back up this wild theory of yours - that Indians disguised as Bengalis attacked PA before PA started its butchering?

Before asking for credible source, it depends that how far you can walk to know the truth contrary to Indian Fairy Tales and forged history. It will take a life to put some real sense while revisiting the history to correct a total wrongly diverted course of Indian populace. What PA did and how all that happened, is well discussed though, you have Shaikh Hasina and Bangladesh in your hands so carry on. Apology is really a big thing that an Indian praising writer expects as such. Another delusional article to mislead SHW furthermore and burn in hatred.
 
Nope. Musharraf just expressed his regret.

That's as good as it's gonna get and that should be good enough and here is where you should start to understand the difference between genocide and regret of mishandling a situation.

Does anyone actually wants better relation with Pakistan? From America to Afghanistan?
Of course they do. Do you think they wish for deteriorated relations with Pakistan? Even India wants better relations just like every nation in the world. Nobody has bad relations as a foreign policy. Nobody. There are simply issues that create deterioration which leads to bad relations. Nobody starts of with bad relations.
That made no sense

I sometimes wonder, numerous Pakistani politicians(Like Nawaz and Imran Khan) have stated that the way West Pakistani regime handled events of 1971 was a mistake....If they understand this much then why is it so hard to make a formal apology? Since they understand its their mistake.....

I mean if you guys don't think there was any mistake/wrongdoing then why you guys dismissed Gen Niazi and stripped him from all the honors he previously gained? Why Yahiya Khan was kept under house arrest until he was pretty much dead? They did everything alright, no?

Hmm....I don't really understand Pakistani psyche.....

Mishandling a situation ( as the situation encompassed geographical, political and social plains) and genocide are two very different things I believe. This is why you should Pakistan's narrative. Not just Bangladesh's. You would come to understand why regret of 1971 and why politicians continuously use it.

Quite frankly this is why we have apologized with regret of the situation by musharraf. This is all you will ever get. Make peace with it.

The past is the past. Let it go and work towards a future.
 
Why Pakistan cannot say sorry to Bangladesh
  • Ashis Biswas
  • Published at 06:15 PM April 26, 2018
  • Last updated at 01:44 PM April 27, 2018
https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/2018/04/26/pakistan-cannot-say-sorry-bangladesh/

An army-dominated deep statePhoto: REUTERS
Any apology to Bangladesh would imply that Pakistan's use of terror was self-destructive
For some time now, Bangladesh has been pressing Pakistan to apologize for the genocide of the Bangali population in 1971. The occupation army showed no compunction in butchering an estimated three million of their (mostly unarmed) fellow citizens over a nine-month period to quell a liberation struggle in its then eastern wing.

In reply, Pakistan has urged Bangladesh to forget the unfortunate incidents of the past and move on to a new, better relationship. Well short of an apology, its utterly inadequate response glosses over what remains the most shameful blot in Pakistan’s less-than-stellar history.

However, given Pakistan’s gradual morphing into a terror-sponsoring state from its theocratic origins, beginning from its intervention in the Afghan civil war, its refusal to apologize to Bangladesh is not surprising. Countries with a firmer commitment to a democratic system and minimal respect for established norms of governance would have found it easier to offer a brief, heartfelt apology.

A dignified regret would have helped Islamabad get rid of a permanent embarrassment in a civilized manner. If anything, by demanding an apology instead of adequate reparations, Bangladesh had prepared the ground for a graceful ending to a painful episode of history and for a new beginning in bilateral ties.

Evidently, the army-dominated deep state in Pakistan has little concern for either the country’s international image, its place in world history, to say nothing of the damaging legacy it leaves behind for its younger generations.

So far so bad — yet it is possible to see the signs of a major political change for the better among the younger Pakistani citizens, which augurs well for South Asia.

From Pakistan’s point of view, any apology to Bangladesh would have implied that its use of terror as an instrument of state policy had proved self-destructive. Its exploitative policy towards its eastern province was morally reprehensible and utterly wrong.

More importantly, to disavow terror as an acceptable political tactic would have significantly reduced Pakistan’s acceptability among organizations like the Jaish-e-Mohammad, the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the Lashkar–e-Toiba (some of which are internationally blacklisted), and their shadowy underworld backers.

Pakistan’s refusal to apologize to Bangladesh even in 2018 indicates how little the country has changed since 1971

So there could be no apology to anyone on the break-up of 1971, because that would have meant a loss of face for the India-hating Pakistani ruling establishment. For the military hawks, drug lords, and Islamic extremists running Islamabad’s foreign policy, it was preferable to go along with international Muslim terrorism and maintain a pro-Jihadi image post-1971.

After the emergence of Bangladesh, Pakistan became blindsided on the east. It opted wholeheartedly to concentrate on and participate in developments more closely in the deeply disturbed West Asian region. If this meant inviting unrest and chaos, there were compensations too.

So long as the US and the EU continued to use Islamabad as their ally in the battle against Islamic terrorism, the dollars kept coming — never mind the international revulsion and the moral opprobrium, which can be borne better when people are well-fed and elections are a joke.

It is another matter that the US and the West have gradually become wiser to the implications of Pakistan’s running with the hares and hunting also with the hounds, in the matter of fighting Islamic extremism.

Pakistan’s refusal to apologize to Bangladesh even in 2018 indicates how little the country has changed since 1971.

And yet, it is not fair to condemn Pakistan as a country for the shocking killing of nearly three million people in 1971. There are any number of ordinary, decent Pakistani citizens who deeply regret the breaking up of their country and the loss of its eastern wing. Mostly these are younger generation Pakistanis who have no direct experience of the Liberation War in Bangladesh.

But there are elder citizens too, including senior people in the administration, in different political parties, not to mention journalists and members of the commentariat who are bitterly critical of the 1971 break-up.

There are several Pakistani TV channels where the younger set are shown discussing how Bangladesh has left Pakistan well behind in creating better health facilities for the people, in women empowerment, poverty reduction, family planning, and general education.

Pakistan may boast of having more cars than Bangladesh and smartphones, but the former eastern province enjoys better forex reserves ($32 billion as against $14bn), more mobiles (84% of people as against 68%), registers a better GDP growth, and less foreign debt, despite receiving only a fraction of Pakistan’s level of foreign aid.

The average Pakistani is marginally healthier than the Bangladeshi, but joblessness in Pakistan is much more than pronounced, not to mention the terrorism-related violence and the socio/political cost thereof. The fact that Bangladesh is poised to reach a GDP of over $273bn by end 2018 and overtake Pakistan’s GDP by 2021 at present rates is highly appreciated.

Bangladesh does not suffer crippling power cuts like Pakistan, consuming around 16,000 megawatts daily, a figure expected to touch 22,000 MWs in the 2020s. In garments exports, it ranks second in the world.


By 2021, along with Myanmar and Laos, Bangladesh is poised to join the ranks of middle-income countries, an elevation from the ranks of 47 least developed countries, at its present rate of growth — in the sectors of personal income, economic vulnerability, and human assets creation.

It needs stressing here that the present writer has taken these figures mostly covering the 2016-17 period, from Pakistani print and electronic media. Especially on TV channels, it has been heartening to see young Pakistanis listening with interest to the Bangladeshi national anthem and wishing their “brothers in the East all well.”

It was also encouraging to see similar programs related to the present status and growth of major Indian cities like Kolkata on some Pakistani channels where most people expressed their appreciation. Their obvious interest in the economic growth of Bangladesh and India was a healthy sign for the political future of South Asia as a whole.

As for reactions in India to developments in Bangladesh and Pakistan, especially among the young, this writer can personally confirm that there exist a matching interest and curiosity to learn more about their (former compatriots and current) neighbours with whom they have so much in common in terms of food, language, culture, and religion.

As analyst Charubrata Ray puts it: “When today’s young generation assumes power in all three countries of the sub-continent, who knows what new possibilities may open up? Maybe Pakistan will unhesitatingly apologize to Bangladesh and India, and Pakistan may well apologize to each other — and a new era of hope may prevail in South Asia?”

An added point of interest is that of late, even blaming India for “having taken advantage of the problems in Bangladesh” is no longer done by the older generation of Pakistanis with the anger and vigour of the past. Col Sabyasachi Bagchi says, “they agree that if they were in Mrs Indira Gandhi’s place, they would have done exactly the same in Bangladesh, in a world dominated by realpolitik.”

Ashis Biswas writes from Kolkata, India.
Why you have to post this article in a Pak forum? This article will act as a salt in the head of a leech.:lol::lol:
 
Rather, India should thank Pakistan as you are breathing freely today.

Fully agree and many Indians have no hesitation to Say "Thank you Jinnah for Pakistan"

There are four groups in India

Moderate Hindus - They think that Pakistan was a mistake but have reconciled to the partition of India

Moderate Muslims - They think that Pakistan was a mistake but have reconciled to the partition of India

Right-wing Hindus - They think that Pakistan was the best thing that happened to India. Their only complaint is that not all Muslims have migrated to Pakistan

Right-wing Hindus - They think that Pakistan was a grave mistake. They think that Muslims of Subcontinents lost the golden opportunity to rule again an undivided India
 
Fully agree and many Indians have no hesitation to Say "Thank you Jinnah for Pakistan"

There are four groups in India

Moderate Hindus - They think that Pakistan was a mistake but have reconciled to the partition of India

Moderate Muslims - They think that Pakistan was a mistake but have reconciled to the partition of India

Right-wing Hindus - They think that Pakistan was the best thing that happened to India. Their only complaint is that not all Muslims have migrated to Pakistan

Right-wing Hindus - They think that Pakistan was a grave mistake. They think that Muslims of Subcontinents lost the golden opportunity to rule again an undivided India

First mistake as there was no India but British India. Independent India comes later when Pakistan became independent.
 

okay bangs i have a chick song for you i am sorry! please move on and forgive Pakistan!! and please keep sucking modis g!

thankyou
 
No apology is coming for BD or its master India.

So better don't make yourself look like an idiot by asking one.
 
ISI senior jasoos @El Sidd please iss ISI junior jasoos @Mentee ka transfer karvaien. He keeps taking me to court over Rs. 250. Aur toh aur dirty-dirty batien karte rehte hain ye. Enough is enough. Khud toh @Mentee badnaam ho, mujhe bhi badnaam karake choro ge.

On topic: Why do these threads keep coming up and gaining traction be it against India or Pakistan? Muft mien pareshan karte rehte ho. Jeeyo aur jeene do bhai.
 

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