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Why Pakistan AirForce ,ISI , Army FAILED ...

The failure is of OBL's discovery in Pakistan.

The simple answer to this is that our forces and intelligence agencies were toooo sure of Osama's presence in Afghanistan that it never even thought that Osama could be close to PMA, Kakul. .
 
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Ok .. one can admit that we failed to detect the intrusion and thats a huge failure
Moral of the story is that we have to kick the habbit of taking aid and invest in applied research/engineering for future weapons technology.

Most of all we have to be prepared to go to war ... nations are not built without fighitng wars

I think its good that bin laden is offically no more and in the aftermath its not very likely that there will be a lot of co-operation between Pakistan and the US.

Ref. the underlined: that is a great idea, you must go to war every third friday; and on full moon nights as a special bonus. The best nation-building method that exists!!!!
 
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Ref. the underlined: that is a great idea, you must go to war every third friday; and on full moon nights as a special bonus. The best nation-building method that exists!!!!

probably he meant to say nations are not built without making some enemies.
 
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If the PAF had engaged the Americans, it could have escalated into a full war. The US can destroy Pakistan's entire military machine in a couple of days, including nuclear weapons delivery systems.

Once the Pak military is destroyed, the Indians would be making such raids in daytime.

I am not saying I am happy with the PAF performance, but a reality check is also useful here. Talking heads in the media and on the internet can puff up with all sorts of bravado, but the people in charge have to think through the consequences of actions.
 
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Those who are saying that the leadership has to change I suppose they agree that we might have to go to war with the United States ? since the leadeship isnt confronting with full force those that are violating our soverighnity .. these include the terror groups such as the TTP and also the chief terrorists that is the US ? am I heairng you correct
My friend you wont have to go to war, war is coming to you, no pun intended. What's stopping the Americans for example landing their marines at Gwadar and creating a no fly zone over Balauchistan using the excuse of force protection for their supply lines into Afghanistan. Just one scenario, they have a bag full of tricks.
 
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they failed due to the reason they took loads of money from USA in bribe to keep quite and do nothing.

US giving us money to fight their War on terror . Pakistan already lost 60 billion dollar as a result of this war .

Pakistani awam is fool who trust these traitor army who at one hand allow drones which take off from Pakistani airbases to attack Pakistanis and on the other hand they condemn them.

we are fools because we vote this traitor government , who is allowing American CIA agents in Pakistan and allows drones .

These Army traitors have sold off Pakistan and its awam.

this government is already sold itself . so there is nothing left behind .

looking at your bull$hit, i know you are not living in Pakistan and may you open your eyes today .
 
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My friend you wont have to go to war, war is coming to you, no pun intended. What's stopping the Americans for example landing their marines at Gwadar and creating a no fly zone over Balauchistan using the excuse of force protection for their supply lines into Afghanistan. Just one scenario, they have a bag full of tricks.

The Americans have over 100,000 troops, not all combat, stationed within our striking distance, they haven’t been able to suppress the Taliban insurgency within Afghanistan and if they open a new front with Pakistan under any excuse their problem will get multiplied 10 folds.

War has already come to Pakistan, we are already in state of war its not like much will change when the enmity that the united states has against Pakistan comes out in the open.

That will be just what Pakistan needs right now as we'll be left wiht no choice but to attack the American presence in Afghanistan since our missiles cant reach DC or the Pentagon but most certainly can reach , Kandahar , Jalalabad and Bagram all of which have vital US installations.

This is an eventuality that we as nation must be prepared for.
 
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If the PAF had engaged the Americans, it could have escalated into a full war. The US can destroy Pakistan's entire military machine in a couple of days, including nuclear weapons delivery systems.

Once the Pak military is destroyed, the Indians would be making such raids in daytime.

I am not saying I am happy with the PAF performance, but a reality check is also useful here. Talking heads in the media and on the internet can puff up with all sorts of bravado, but the people in charge have to think through the consequences of actions.

Like they have did it in Afghanistan where the so called superpower @SS is kicked so hard by Talibans who have nothing but rusty AK 47s for over a decade.It goes to show your lack of courage.Please at least have a courage to comment positively.
 
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If the PAF had engaged the Americans, it could have escalated into a full war. The US can destroy Pakistan's entire military machine in a couple of days, including nuclear weapons delivery systems.

Once the Pak military is destroyed, the Indians would be making such raids in daytime.

I am not saying I am happy with the PAF performance, but a reality check is also useful here. Talking heads in the media and on the internet can puff up with all sorts of bravado, but the people in charge have to think through the consequences of actions.

Sir,

Nothing would have happened---except that americans would have appreciated the prowess of the paks----they would have said---we tried----win some lose some----would not have been a big deal at all---.

When they sent the seals in----they already had counted them dead under the worst case scenario---. Paks are not understanding the american stance----. Things would have been sweeped under the rug and america moved ahead----pakistan would have popped up on the world map as a force to be reckoned with----on the same scale as israel.
 
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Well Mazari is a bit correct, the people of Pakistan never trusted civilion govt & especially Zardari & Co, but they always strongly beleif that after Allah this Armed Forces are to save Pakistan, the may 2011 incident was great, the killer of thousands of Pakistanis died but as it was done without any knowledge of Pakistani authorities so it is a clear Failure of Pakistani Forces that they did'nt even knew foriegn helis were flying deep inside Pakistan & AirForce failed to reach them. This is very exteremely shocking for Pakistanis, & yes only statements are nothing, Pakistanis are feeling very insecure after this incident.

BTW Mazari is very funny.:rofl:
 
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What harm did OBL caused to pak I mean directly what suicidea attacks by carried out by Alqaeda ??

if he did no harm to pak then why should pak army or agency search for him or kill him ?? Every nation or army defends its state and not any other state OBL was an enemy of US not Pak...
 
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This incident has caused a lot of Controversy.

But developero is correct I DONT think PAF or Army can fire on USA military.

The conseqences would be dire for the country..

RESTRAINT is the right thing to do with verbal warnings only needed
 
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