Why Pakistan accuses Taliban of doing what it has been doing to India?

[Kuru]

Chal ab bakwas nahi kar. Tera scene samajh main aa gaya hai sub ko

Teri maan sub ki maan. Baap ka tu wait kar raha hai aur teri baji Kabul gayi hoyi hai

Terai jaisi r@ndi families main aisa hi hota hai. Nothing new. Tu manage kar ab

Teri Ammi ko ek phone dila de yaar. Randi or no randi, everyone should have a phone. Mera message de dena yaad se.
Aur baji ko bhej dena.

 

[maithil]

Such articles are of no use. Instead of introspection, these articles make them engage in whataboutism. Which in a way is good for us.

 

[surmabhopali]

Beyond propaganda Indians HATE each other


Kashmiri despise Hindu as much as we do and the toxic hate filled communal daily shitstorm inside India reaffirms that everyday


These Indians are delusional

Afghanis and Baloch hate you . There no love from muhajirs , i dont know what sindhudesh thinks about you .

 

[hussain0216]

Afghanis and Baloch hate you . There no love from muhajirs , i dont know what sindhudesh thinks about you .

What are you talking about,,

Most Pakistani are absolutely fine with each other common differences aside we are all similar people

It's not like the mass toxic hatred and differences amongst Indians

Indians hate each other MORE then we hate hindus and we reaaaalllly hate hindus

 

[El Sidd]

Did they ask for it? Did they want to be an extension of your security planning. It appears that this concept of considering them as part of your security, has caused all the issues.

Also calling the conflict akin to sibling rivalry is flawed. Living beings are siblings, not nations. Nations can be allies, opponents or neutral to some extent. Nations with shared borders are most likely, either allies or opponents.

Indopak and Afpak have different kinds of thorns that have soured the relationship. Both are confrontational. A weak Afghan can be only this much.
The mere idea was introspection. No one is analysing Indo-Pak here. It would take much more to resolve.

Is Paksiatn ready to do it, rather then just blaming the current Afghan regime?

Afghans and Paks will reconcile their issues in due time. We have enough patience for it.

We don't have any patience with India and Indians anymore.

 

[VkdIndian]

Afghans and Paks will reconcile their issues in due time. We have enough patience for it.

Good luck with that. I have a doubt though, due to shortsighted leadership in Paksiatn.

We don't have any patience with India and Indians anymore.

We can have a thread dedicated to that.

 

[surmabhopali]

Afghans and Paks will reconcile their issues in due time. We have enough patience for it.

We don't have any patience with India and Indians anymore.

There is no conciliation between ruler and riyaya .

What are you talking about,,

Most Pakistani are absolutely fine with each other common differences aside we are all similar people

It's not like the mass toxic hatred and differences amongst Indians

Indians hate each other MORE then we hate hindus and we reaaaalllly hate hindus

There is difference between rulers and riyaya .

 

[Areesh]

Teri Ammi ko ek phone dila de yaar. Randi or no randi, everyone should have a phone. Mera message de dena yaad se.
Aur baji ko bhej dena.

Dekh you being a randi ka bacha teri maan to sub ki maan hogi laikin agar baap wapis nahi aa raha to jab tak kisi bharati pajeet ko hi apna baap bana lai. Teri baji bhi Kabul gayi hoyi hai. Busy hai wahan. Poora ghar khali hai

PDF k kisi Bharati pajeet ko hi baap bana lai agar Pakistani nahi chahiye to. wait na kar. Warna isi tarah khali ghar sai Pakistani forum par aa kar apni gaand marwata rahai ga

 

[Kuru]

Dekh you being a randi ka bacha teri maan to sub ki maan hogi laikin agar baap wapis nahi aa raha to jab tak kisi bharati pajeet ko hi apna baap bana lai. Teri baji bhi Kabul gayi hoyi hai. Busy hai wahan. Poora ghar khali hai

PDF k kisi Bharati pajeet ko hi baap bana lai agar Pakistani nahi chahiye to. wait na kar. Warna isi tarah khali ghar sai Pakistani forum par aa kar apni gaand marwata rahai ga

Agar apni ammi ko phone nahi dila sakta to letter bhej dena. Randi ko letter to bhej sakte hai na heera mandi me?

Aur apni baaji ko jaldi bhej, uska mujra karwana hai Kabul me. 1 kg aata chahiye ke nahi tujhe?

 

[Areesh]

Agar apni ammi ko phone nahi dila sakta to letter bhej dena. Randi ko letter to bhej sakte hai na heera mandi me?

Aur apni baaji ko jaldi bhej, uska mujra karwana hai Kabul me. 1 kg aata chahiye ke nahi tujhe?

Jaldi baap bana. Wait na kar. Pakistani ya pajeet. Laikin baap bana

Meri offer to on hai. Tu randi ka bacha hai is par bhi tujhai apni aulad bananai k liye tayyar hoon takai tera wait khatam ho

 

[Kuru]

Jaldi baap bana. Wait na kar. Pakistani ya pajeet. Laikin baap bana

Meri offer to on hai. Tu randi ka bacha hai is par bhi tujhai apni aulad bananai k liye tayyar hoon takai tera wait khatam ho

Yaar tu bura maan gaya. Ab Teri ammi randi aur baji tawaif hai to meri kya galti hai

 

[Signalian]

Earlier this week in Pakistan, something strange happened. The Pakistan Army formally blamed its erstwhile friend and ally, the Afghan Taliban, for abetting terror attacks inside Pakistan by hosting terrorist sanctuaries, which it said was impacting the “security of Pakistan”.

Sounds familiar? Is the penny dropping in Rawalpindi, the headquarters of the Pakistani military establishment and its infamous intelligence services, the ISI? Are the chickens, to relocate an English proverb in a hot, subcontinental locale, coming home to roost?

For decades, India has been accusing Pakistan of doing the exact same thing. Which is, controlling the terror tap by hosting terrorist safe havens on its territory and infiltrating them into India — bleeding India “with a thousand cuts.”
Much before the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which Pakistan has never acknowledged leave alone apologized for, long before the 2001 Agra talks which broke down because of then Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf’s position on Kashmir, and even before the 1999 Kargil conflict, Pakistan has used terror as an instrument of state policy towards India.

Pakistan’s refusal to shut down its safe havens for terrorists, its belief that it could turn the tap on and off for “good” and “bad” terrorists — the good ones, presumably, were those targetting India, and the bad ones who turned the target inwards — is now coming to haunt it.

It’s cruel, perhaps, to quote the Bible here — you reap what you sow. And when you sow the whirlwind, you reap famine and floods and disaster every season. No one should wish that on anyone, leave alone 200 million people who live next door.

It’s not the people’s fault, of course. They try their best, electing who they do. But the Pakistan military and ISI are so powerful that they will not just personally destroy you if you refuse to follow orders, but have perverted an entire nation for the last 75 years because they want to remain in charge. Just ask Nawaz Sharif, living in exile for the second time in his life — at least he’s in balmy London this time, not in godforsaken Attock jail to which he was sent after the 1999 coup by Musharraf.

Certainly, Pakistan is nervous. On the one hand, the Pakistani economy is barely holding on for dear life with a $3 billion tranche from the IMF, and on the other, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is demanding the application of Sharia law in territories bordering Afghanistan.

Neglecting neighbourly duties​

Back to the Pakistan army’s hand-wringing this past week about the Taliban government in Kabul. At the 258th meeting of all the corps commanders, which was presided over by Pakistan Army chief General Asim Munir, the detailed briefing on the security situation pointed a direct finger at the Taliban government’s inability to shut down the TTP.


Two days prior, Pakistani defence minister Khwaja Asif had scolded Afghanistan for “neglecting its duties as a neighbourly and fraternal country.” He added, with some anger, that Pakistan had provided refuge to several million Afghans for the last 40 years.

The irony, of course, is that when the Taliban walked into Kabul on 15 August 2021, the Pakistani military clapped the loudest — behind closed doors of course. Having supported the Taliban against the Americans and against elected governments in Afghanistan for the previous 20 years, Rawalpindi believed this was their moment.

For decades they had talked about the concept of “strategic depth” in Afghanistan — at last, their time had come. Faiz Hameed, the former ISI chief, was so cocky in his behaviour that he was photographed sipping a cup of tea in full public view at the entrance to the Kabul Serena hotel, instead of meeting the Taliban behind closed doors.

According to Dawn, quoting, “the banned TTP continues to enjoy safe havens and managed to get its hands on sophisticated weapons as it operates freely in Afghanistan,” and it was the mastermind of a terror attack on a military garrison in Zhob, Baluchistan, in which 9 soldiers and one civilian were killed. The TTP militants had used M-16 rifles, carried night-vision equipment and wore uniforms commonly used by the US military in the Zhob attack, Dawn reported.

It is true that TTP militants are using sophisticated military gear left behind by US soldiers. Considering the TTP and Afghan Taliban are very close, it’s more than likely that they are sharing the loot.

Taliban refutes ​

Certainly, no one in their wildest dreams in Rawalpindi would have thought that their blood brothers, the Afghan Taliban, were going to do them what they have been doing to India for some time. It was not supposed to turn out this way.

But here’s another of those delicious ironies that make foreign policy reporting worthwhile. Just like Pakistan routinely rejects all accusations that India makes about its policy of state-sponsored infiltration, Afghanistan is now doing exactly the same.

“We do not allow them (TTP) to live and operate in Afghanistan. We have faced consequences of wars and do not want others to suffer…This is a problem, but it is also the responsibility of the other side (Pakistan) to find a solution,” Taliban spokesperson Zabiullah Mujahid told Dawn.

Afghan upon Afghan upon Afghan will tell you in Kabul and elsewhere that the “Pakistanis” have “destroyed us”, that they have refused to allow peace and stability in Afghanistan. That they never allowed the Americans to stabilise the country, or let India become the regional market towards which the rest of the region gravitated.

As the Taliban settle down to rule — despite no international recognition of their status — and take on the traits of the Afghans they once despised, they are beginning to realise what the Pakistani military establishment is capable of, which is to fully control Afghanistan. Which self-respecting nation is going to allow that?

And as relations between the Taliban government in Kabul and Rawalpindi worsen, here’s the other question: What does this do to ties between Delhi and Kabul?

Why Pakistan accuses Taliban of doing what it has been doing to India — abetting terrorism

As relations between the Taliban government in Kabul and Rawalpindi worsen, here’s the other question: What does this do to ties between Delhi and Kabul?

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Similar reason to how India accused of Pakistan in Kashmir in Kashmir struggle as to how India used/trained/weaponized Mukti Bahini in 1969-71.

What if Taliban start saying same thing while supporting Baloch insurgency? Or India start supporting something similar in Paksiatn?

It may be ok within Paksiatn, but the world doesn’t view it the same way.

One countries freedom fighters could be terrorists for the others.

These are rough waters and Pakskatn needs to tread carefully. The writer has raised some very valid questions and need some self introspection by Pakskatn.

India has been instrumental in arming anti-state Balochs since 1970s, though that was quelled by pakistan, Then again with the help of KGB, India started doing again in 80's, 90s and even now in 2000s. So don't get surprised since the RAW agent Yadav is in Pakistan's custody and he is an every day slap on India's face, showing India as the No.1 Terrorism sponsoring country in the world.

 

[flameboard]

Strategic planning and diplomacy down the drain

 

[surmabhopali]

Similar reason to how India accused of Pakistan in Kashmir in Kashmir struggle as to how India used/trained/weaponized Mukti Bahini in 1969-71.


India has been instrumental in arming anti-state Balochs since 1970s, though that was quelled by pakistan, Then again with the help of KGB, India started doing again in 80's, 90s and even now in 2000s. So don't get surprised since the RAW agent Yadav is in Pakistan's custody and he is an every day slap on India's face, showing India as the No.1 Terrorism sponsoring country in the world.

Pakistan is paying price for radicalising own population for doing jihad in afganistan and India .strategic depth is hurting .
Still there is time , Pakistan should stop jihad against India and disband all lashkars and mujahidin . adopt Bazwa doctrine so that both countries can concentrate on business and development of respective countries .

 

[VkdIndian]

Similar reason to how India accused of Pakistan in Kashmir in Kashmir struggle as to how India used/trained/weaponized Mukti Bahini in 1969-71.

One sides freedom struggle could be another sides terrorist action. It also depends on how world sees a situation. One might start questioning world opinion itself.
East Paksiatn was more of Paksiatn’s blunder, where India just intervened and the world also viewed it that way. Quite often, history judges these struggles and marks them as just or otherwise.

This debate is a tricky one and a consensus is unlikely. We know how world views Paksiatn8s intervention in Kashmir.