Why Pak army entered so late into the 1948 war of Kashmir?

[Samandri]

@Samandri its possible many tribals looted and raped. I also used to believe in propaganda of tribals liberating azad kashmir, but actul history is that local tribes from those áreas liberated AJK. To me this was blatant propaganda and many people still believe this and want to live in denial.

Then local kashmiris should be blamed for not capturing sri nagar, if they have liberated AJK. All sources agree that sudhan ex-soldiers alone were numbering 50,000. It was job of those sudhans , rajas and mirpuris to capture sri nagar.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Then local kashmiris should be blamed for not capturing sri nagar, if they have liberated AJK. All sources agree that sudhan ex-soldiers alone were numbering 50,000. It was job of those sudhans , rajas and mirpuris to capture sri nagar.

Yes they tried to capture srinagar no Doubt, but Indian Army was supported by Air cover and artillery against these Irregulars. On other hand Dogra army was reinforced by Gorkha regiments and advanced weaponry. AKRF was assigned to resisit this attack.

 

[Samandri]

But our Kahsmiri Mujahideen are better trained compared to Indian trianed BLA, BRA, Aren't they?


Who said that tribals killed,looted and raped hah only 1,2 cases because they havent any food and shelters. and there was only 800 sudhans and rajas who voluntered for gorilla attacks. Let me share the names of martyrs after batlle of thorarh.
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Most of the pakistanis like @MastanKhan and @syedali73 wont agree with you.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Told you, fancy names won't change real identity or your terrorists.
Do you have any proof regaring India training BLA, which we can call rock solid proof.

Yes i have Proofs but i will not share on this forum.Gunny you are trying to ban me. Aren't you.?

Most of the pakistanis like @MastanKhan and @syedali73 wont agree with you.

Which point they dont agreed with me?

 

[Burhan Wani]

I'm not trying anything except proving reality. what good a proof is if you can't even show it?

Any ways our Spartans are doing well.

 

[ghoul]

ANP style bigotry? Actually khudai khidmatgars and all pashtunists strongely opposed the intervention of some pashtun tribesmen in kashmir. Perhaps reason was their association with congress but it was correctly assumed at that time that these Mehsud and Afridi, shinwari and Mohmand volounteers were going to be used as cannon fodder, as one can see pakistanis are spitting on them and they were presented as villians in the story. In my opinion, in the presence of chib and other rajas, sudhans and mirpuris, and gilgat scouts, ther was no need of tribesmen. Chances are high that many of those tribesmen were actually khyber rifles and tochi scouts.

Nope their sacrifices are much appreciated, particularly by the Sudhans. The bigotry I mention is of particular "proud pakhtuns" ignorant of history, who try to belittle the people of AJK. They take all the credit for Kashmir war when Pakhtuns were only a part, but not at the leadership role. And how many Pakhtuns actually went to Kashmir? Like 1500 people were Tanolis from Amb in the qabayli lashkar.

 

[syedali73]

Which point they dont agreed with me?

That sending in lashkaris/non-regular forces was not a good idea because they were ill-disciplined and have been involved in looting and plundering.

 

[Burhan Wani]

That sending in lashkaris/non-regular forces was not a good idea because they were ill-disciplined and have been involved in looting and plundering.

Actually AKRF haven't sufficient weapons. Lashkaris have better rifles, swords, daggers and Batlle experience compared to newly formed Azad Kashmir regular forces (currently upgraded as AK regiment).

Out of logic you are.

Yes i am. I dont want to reveal truth and leak our secret objectives

Nope their sacrifices are much appreciated, particularly by the Sudhans. The bigotry I mention is of particular "proud pakhtuns" ignorant of history, who try to belittle the people of AJK. They take all the credit for Kashmir war when Pakhtuns were only a part, but not at the leadership role. And how many Pakhtuns actually went to Kashmir? Like 1500 people were Tanolis from Amb in the qabayli lashkar.

You know what Sudhans are also belong to Ghzni Afghansitan and they are Sadozais quoted as Sudhans in regional language.

 

[Samandri]

Nope their sacrifices are much appreciated, particularly by the Sudhans. The bigotry I mention is of particular "proud pakhtuns" ignorant of history, who try to belittle the people of AJK. They take all the credit for Kashmir war when Pakhtuns were only a part, but not at the leadership role. And how many Pakhtuns actually went to Kashmir? Like 1500 people were Tanolis from Amb in the qabayli lashkar.

Nawab of Dir state, jahan khan, also sent his fighters to kashmir war of 1948. It seems qabaili lashkar was not entirely from FATA but also from nearby settled areas (chitral, amb, dir etc).

 

[Pride]

Making the LoC an IB is the 'only' viable solution in my opinion as neither side is militarily strong enough to forcefully take the 'enemy occupied part', atleast neither is strong enough for that yet. And in the Nuclear scenario, I seriously doubt any redefinition of border or LoC can happen either way.

However, the 'only' viable solution is most likely not acceptable to Kashmiris. We need to take into account what they want and find some middle ground. Maybe complete autonomy to Kashmir with both sides demilitarizing their occupation of Kashmir.

The third option of kashmir being independent was there before oct 47. After qabayli attack, they never had an option to go alone. It was Pak politicians who used sentiments by anouncing their part of Kashmir is AJK. Now, it is so messy that no side can confirm loc as IB but if you ask proper sentiments in India then people want status quo of LoC and make it IB.

 

[Burhan Wani]

From past few days India in continuously attacking on Pakistan border near Kashmir and Sialkot. From North Waziristan 500 young man are willing to go in battle against India. Tribal people says that India will never occupy an Inch land of of Pakistan. - See more at: 500 hundred Tribal young people are willing to stop Indian aggression | PakistanZ TV

 

[KingMamba]

Bhanje, what you know about North-East.

A lot more than Indic.

 

[INDIC]

A lot more than Indic.

You know nothing.

 

[KingMamba]

You know nothing.

John Snow.

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

From past few days India in continuously attacking on Pakistan border near Kashmir and Sialkot. From North Waziristan 500 young man are willing to go in battle against India. Tribal people says that India will never occupy an Inch land of of Pakistan. - See more at: 500 hundred Tribal young people are willing to stop Indian aggression | PakistanZ TV

please send them. They will be good fertilizer for the soil.