Why Muslims are still mad at America ?

[Raja.Pakistani]

We saw communism based economy, It failed in many state. We saw Tyrant economic models, It failed. Capitalism is only thing which is survived so long. If you have read basic economics in your school days, you must be knowing that there is something called Economic cycle.

The one who goes up , comes down.. Recession and Boom are two aspect of economy (Bull and bear).

where did you saw communism based economy? Communism was never ever implemented in its true form. Capitalists did not let it happen

 

[fd24]

We saw communism based economy, It failed in many state. We saw Tyrant economic models, It failed. Capitalism is only thing which is survived so long. If you have read basic economics in your school days, you must be knowing that there is something called Economic cycle.

The one who goes up , comes down.. Recession and Boom are two aspect of economy (Bull and bear).

If you are so confident of some other system why don't you show it by example. Let implement the Islami economics in Pakistan and produce an example, If it would better than Capitalism, we will accept it. I can better understand who has poisoned your mind. The "Red cap Joker" (lal topi wala mashkhara) has spoiled many mind. Don't trust him, he took many Pakistani youth to Afghan and get them killed. His hand is soaked with many Muslim blood.

Glad to see your bang on the thread here. From Muslims still mad at America you have managed to go to "red cap joker" and "his hand soaked with many Muslim blood" ( good English mate ). You are a joker. Stick to the thread or create your own new thread

 

[lem34]

It is not a good idea to make broad and sweeping statements like "Muslims mad at America".

Just to "focus" our discussion, I'll just discuss Pakistanis who are "mad" at USA.

Most of these Pakistanis will dump their own and any other Muslim country in favor of American green card/passport.

Pakistanis in general get booted in Saudi and in Iran unless they are part of some official suited group.

There goes the love of Muslimness and Islamic Ammah.


As I said earlier, these type of articles are useless and so are such studies.


peace.

Just because our people are poor and will travel abroad for work and to better themselves does not mean they aprove of americas injustices. I live in UK and I abhor injustice in amyones name in any country by any country

 

[problemfreeleader]

NOT PURE MUSLIMS BUT DILUTED MUSLIMS MAD FOR AMERICA WHO DON'T HAVE DEEP TOUCH WITH THEIR RELIGION JUST GREEDY FOR MONEY AND RUNNING AFTER SEX,WINES AND MATERIALISTIC WORLD

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Just because our people are poor and will travel abroad for work and to better themselves does not mean they aprove of americas injustices. I live in UK and I abhor injustice in amyones name in any country by any country

Dont worry about childish comment of Faujhistorian. Many peoples including English also go saudia Arabia for work and money so we should assume that they love saudia Arabia more than their own country because they are getting good pay there

 

[FaujHistorian]

.... I live in UK and I abhor injustice in amyones name in any country by any country

These are just empty slogans dear poster. The biggest injustice is being done by Saudi and Irani Mullahs on their own people in the name of Islam. Petro dollars by the Arab charities are killing Pakistanis by the 1000s. But there won't be a peep about this by so called "Jihadi justice warriors". You know why? they kill Pakistanis and cry for Palestinians. This is hypocrisy at its best.

peace.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Yes. the LOANs without which Pakistan's import/export will come to a grinding halt, and in no time we'll find ourselves in the great company of Islamist Jannatoon Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, etc. etc. etc.

Dear poster your recognition of AID is somewhat correct. But your intended impact analysis is myopic at best.


peace.

no dont blame me, blame our Rich politicians for that we have to get loans from usa and imf.

 

[FaujHistorian]

no dont blame me, blame our Rich politicians for that we have to get loans from usa and imf.

Rich politicians? It is obvious that you don't live in the country and have no idea about our rickety economic system. Do you?

Oh dear poster, we need the funds to run our import of precious commodities and execute our export letters of credit.

Without such support, there will be no government job (from clerks to the top grade), there will no import of fuel for our buses (petrol) and fuel for our brains (tea).

Our "Besht frend" china will not give us a piddly morsel of food (let alone plastic toys) if we could not guarantee our imports with funds supplied by international banks.

You all live in the comfy apartments in the West, but you do not understand the economic systems of the day. How come?

Let me give you a simple example. You use credit cards. Don't you? If you do then you must understand that all the "credit" cards have to be guaranteed by big banks. Even if you pay down every month, still a big bank has to support it.

The same is true for countries. Their credit has to be guaranteed by big banks and those big banks need guarantee from USA, from IMF, from World bank.

Sure we have politicians siphoning of perhaps 10% or so. But the rest of the 90% of our imports (funds and commodities) are consumed by the Pakistani masses.

And if you do not understand this simple scenario, perhaps you won't understand the complexities of the modern economic systems either. And that's a pity. That even after living in the West, you did not learn anything about their systems.

peace.

 

[Zarvan]

Rich politicians? It is obvious that you don't live in the country and have no idea about our rickety economic system. Do you?

Oh dear poster, we need the funds to run our import of precious commodities and execute our export letters of credit.

Without such support, there will be no government job (from clerks to the top grade), there will no import of fuel for our buses (petrol) and fuel for our brains (tea).

Our "Besht frend" china will not give us a piddly morsel of food (let alone plastic toys) if we could not guarantee our imports with funds supplied by international banks.

You all live in the comfy apartments in the West, but you do not understand the economic systems of the day. How come?

Let me give you a simple example. You use credit cards. Don't you? If you do then you must understand that all the "credit" cards have to be guaranteed by big banks. Even if you pay down every month, still a big bank has to support it.

The same is true for countries. Their credit has to be guaranteed by big banks and those big banks need guarantee from USA, from IMF, from World bank.

Sure we have politicians siphoning of perhaps 10% or so. But the rest of the 90% of our imports (funds and commodities) are consumed by the Pakistani masses.

And if you do not understand this simple scenario, perhaps you won't understand the complexities of the modern economic systems either. And that's a pity. That even after living in the West, you did not learn anything about their systems.

peace.

Sir because of your beloved banking system America and Europe are on verge of collapse

 

[Hafizzz]

NYPD Surveillance of Muslims May Violate First Amendment
The wide-ranging clandestine and intelligence program received federal money and CIA cooperation

NYPD Surveillance of Muslims May Violate First Amendment -- News from Antiwar.com

The New York Police Department secretly gathered intelligence on more than 250 mosques and student groups in the New York area in one of the nation’s most aggressive domestic surveillance programs since the September 11th terrorist attacks.

A secret squad known as the Demographics Unit sent teams of undercover officers to spy on the area’s Muslim communities. The documents detailing the operations, obtained by the Associated Press, reveal the wide-ranging nature of the surveillance. Lacking any fix on a specific individual or group, the surveillance targeted an entire religious community, often putting huge numbers of innocent people under scrutiny as they engaged in peaceful daily life.

Since 2001, the NYPD’s intelligence agencies and clandestine efforts have received substantial federal money and benefited from an unusually close relationship with the CIA, raising questions about the legality of domestic and foreign intelligence-gathering.

The department identified scores of mosques and social groups for greater spying and surveillance for allegedly financing terrorist groups, holding overly strict religious beliefs, and even for what the documents refer to as “rhetoric.”

Others were targeted for even more mundane associations, like having ties to Al-Azhar, the 1,000-year-old Egyptian mosque, which was one of the first religious institutions to condemn the 2001 terrorist attacks and which have endorsed diplomatic efforts of the Bush and Obama administrations. A restaurant hangout for Muslim communities was also surveilled.

The NYPD program and operations over the last decade are likely to include serious violations of first amendment rights to speech, free exercise of religion and association, and others. No investigations into the sweeping programs are underway.

Arrrggghhh !!!

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sir because of your beloved banking system America and Europe are on verge of collapse

Things are built and things collapse. This is common between the systems made by men and made by Allah. Shall we say "law of nature" means things will go from highs and lows. This is not the path of destruction but a path of progress.

Dear poster, has the world stopped travelling by airplanes, just because there are air crashes all the time?
Dear poster, has the world stopped living in tall buildings, just because some of those buildings collapsed?
Dear poster, has the world stopped traveling in cars, because there are car crashes all the time?


Dear poster, did your parents put you in a straight jacket, when you collapsed over and over while learning to walk?

Banking systems fail because of greed AND lack of protective features.

It is time to improve upon the system based on the failure.

However Islamists would love to go back and start exchanging Ashrafis, and start living on the heaps of sand. Such is the outcome of blind orthodoxy.



peace.

 

[Elmo]

@ Zarvan: did you even read the entire blogpost that you've linked.

I suggest you do so -

 

[Ahmad]

Sir because of your beloved banking system America and Europe are on verge of collapse

I think it was the irresponsibity of the bankers and carelessness of the governments to regulate the banking system which caused this problem. It is a problem, but i wouldnt call it a collapse. Even in Islamic system which non interest based, i think if you do the dealings irresponsibly then the same problem can come with that as well.

 

[Ahmad]

Just because our people are poor and will travel abroad for work and to better themselves does not mean they aprove of americas injustices. I live in UK and I abhor injustice in amyones name in any country by any country

may i ask what injustices in teh uk we talking about here?

 

[blood]

Sir American economy is on verge of collapse and the day Muslims will get rid of USA and NATO focus will be on India and Kashmir

oh please don't say that , i am feeling really scared lolzzzzzzz.......get out of it mate , the kashmir problem is just your headache , the other muslim nations don't want be a part of it , especially countries like iran , afganistan ,malaysia and bangladesh are never gonna support you on that.