Why many Pakistanis view Indians as the monsters across the border

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

Am not asking to be spoon fed, atleast not from you anyways. This is what your problem is, cannot defend or back up your claims.

Out of many one for u
http://thediplomat.com/2010/09/india-denies-cold-start-plan/

 

[911]

Likewise, we see you as people with crippling inferiority complex. Hence phrases like, 1 Pakistani soldier = 10 Indian soldiers.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Bangladesh was always going to happen it was ungovernable as one state,

If you had allowed Mujib ur Rehman to become the PM ; then Bangladesh would still
have been East Pakistan

 

[AMCA]

West Pakistan cant keep east pakistan if it didn't want to be one nation, it is is still a muslim majority state where hindus have been decimated, 1000 miles was simply a bridge too far


Even if we succeeded against all odds we would have had to give up east bangladesh it just wasent working as one state

lol.. Religious vengeance for your loss against Indian Army. This adds to the failure of your nations moral grounds. You guys can only see religion in everything. Think for once straight can we?

 

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

Finally you found exit.. By bye..

There is difference between insanity and meaningful discusion.
Regards

 

[hussain0216]

Are you aware that Jinnah REJECTED a DEAL over Kashmir

Patel had offered him a deal

Take Kashmir and Give up your claim to Hyderabad

Jinnah said he wanted Hyderabad

But he got nothing

The Terms and conditions of partition were very clear
States had the right to choose

The Kashmir Maharaja choose India only because and after you Attacked him

If you had been patient ; whole Kashmir would have come to you

They were Muslim majority their should be no deal

Look at the map again, see how without kashmir both Pakistan and Bangladesh are surrounded and hemmed in and irrelevant well that was always the plan, Pakistan was supposed to fail

It is through blood and sacrifice that we took kashmir and blocked india, and fought a nation 7 times bigger to a standstill, developed weapons to defend ourselves and keep going


You can convince yourself that you would have acted honourably but you would be lying

And by occupying muslim majority kashmir you ensured endless hatred and conflict in the sub continent

You can convince yourselves of indias rise but Pakistan is not out we will grow and do what is necessary to defend ourselves and harm india

 

[AMCA]

Out of many one for u
http://thediplomat.com/2010/09/india-denies-cold-start-plan/

lol on the contrary your military brass including CJCSC have started to train for this doctrine. lol.. So much for something that does not really exist.

There is difference between insanity and meaningful discusion.
Regards

Now that you have finally found it out yourself, may be you can leave your insanity and discuss.

 

[hussain0216]

If you had allowed Mujib ur Rehman to become the PM ; then Bangladesh would still
have been East Pakistan

Nope, simply not governable as one state it could be 1971 or 1980 or 2030 but Bangladesh was always going to happen, its just a pity it gave the otherwise gutless indians an ability to take on Pakistani forces under insurmountable odds

 

[Zahoor Raja-Jani]

may be you can leave your insanity

Reported
@Icarus

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Out of many one for u
http://thediplomat.com/2010/09/india-denies-cold-start-plan/

But your military leadership does't agrees with you after boasting cols start for year now they are claiming they don't have such plan at all, its simply no exists in Indian military planing what a joke.

The real QUESTION is that what does Pakistan Army believe

Now Read this

http://www.dawn.com/news/858309/kayani-spells-out-threat-posed-by-indian-doctrine

http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-pindi-manifesto/264321

 

[Laozi]

are you out of u r senses...kahan ki baat kahan mila rahay ho bhai...relax man
If NS does't get loose motion during kargill belive me we can snatch a big chunk of Kashmir, Kargill and Siachin.


are you out of u r senses...kahan ki baat kahan mila rahay ho bhai...relax man
If NS does't get loose motion during kargill belive me we can snatch a big chunk of Kashmir, Kargill and Siachin.

Simple question is why are you not satisfied with the part of Kashmir which is under your control.

History shows that your country has not won anything worthwhile in last five decades in armed conflicts.

Are you ready for a repeat of '71 as a cost of war with India ?

A piece of advice: Don't compare "terrorist" Modi with meek "Atal Bihari". A repeat of Kargil like misadventure will surely be handled in a very different style by this Man. For example, The Pathankot incident couldn't damage India as much as Mumbai Carnage, while Doval and RaW has become a household in Pakistan

 

[Samrat420]

This is a very common retort by many Pakistanis when they discuss about East Pakistan, that is was ungovernable in the long run because it was 1000s of miles away from the Mainland. What you fail to realize ( or refuse to realize ), is that East Pakistan WAS THE MAINLAND. It was where most of Pakistanis lived. The Pakistan movement itself was built on the efforts of erstwhile East Bengali's and Biharis and UP Muslims. You keep claiming that Pak army was fighting a long way away from home in 1971. But no my friend, that is a horrendous lie.. You were fighting in YOUR OWN HOME. It was your own soil.

The Punjabis, The Pathans, The Sindhis might have been fighting away from their soil, The Pakistanis weren't..!!

Nope, simply not governable as one state it could be 1971 or 1980 or 2030 but Bangladesh was always going to happen, its just a pity it gave the otherwise gutless indians an ability to take on Pakistani forces under insurmountable odds

 

[hussain0216]

This is a very common retort by many Pakistanis when they discuss about East Pakistan, that is was ungovernable in the long run because it was 1000s of miles away from the Mainland. What you fail to realize ( or refuse to realize ), is that East Pakistan WAS THE MAINLAND. It was where most of Pakistanis lived. The Pakistan movement itself was built on the efforts of erstwhile East Bengali's and Biharis and UP Muslims. You keep claiming that Pak army was fighting a long way away from home in 1971. But no my friend, that is a horrendous lie.. You were fighting in YOUR OWN HOME. It was your own soil.

The Punjabis, The Pathans, The Sindhi's might have been fighting away from their soil, The Pakistanis weren't..!!

it amounts to the same thing, half our nation was fighting the other

it was under these circumstances that indians could do something otherwise indians lacked both the courage or ability

Simple question is why are you not satisfied with the part of Kashmir which is under your control.

History shows that your country has not won anything worthwhile in last five decades in armed conflicts.

Are you ready for a repeat of '71 as a cost of war with India ?

A piece of advice: Don't compare "terrorist" Modi with meek "Atal Bihari". A repeat of Kargil like misadventure will surely be handled in a very different style by this Man. For example, The Pathankot incident couldn't damage India as much as Mumbai Carnage, while Doval and RaW has become a household in Pakistan

our kashmir is not enough, it is all our kashmir and indias occupation of a Muslim majority state has ensured hatred and war in the subcontinent permanently

on the contrary war with india which has been fought to a standstill has ensured pakistan is free from indian dominance

pakistan is growing and as it grows it will add the necessary weapons to defend itself and hurt india

Bangladesh was 1000 miles away from us indians do not have the ability or courage to attack Pakistan if you dont have the balls to do it after Mumbai then you will never have it, because your military knows of the consequences

 

[Samrat420]

it amounts to the same thing, half our nation was fighting the other

it was under these circumstances that indians could do something otherwise indians lacked both the courage or ability



our kashmir is not enough, it is all our kashmir and indias occupation of a Muslim majority state has ensured hatred and war in the subcontinent permanently

on the contrary war with india which has been fought to a standstill has ensured pakistan is free from indian dominance

pakistan is growing and as it grows it will add the necessary weapons to defend itself and hurt india

Bangladesh was 1000 miles away from us indians do not have the ability or courage to attack Pakistan if you dont have the balls to do it after Mumbai then you will never have it, because your military knows of the consequences

Yes. Half your nation was fighting the other half.. Wonder why?

And as far as Indian military having balls or courage or guts or spine etc etc is concerned, I won't even try to debate with you on that front. I know where such debate is going to end. Round and round in circles, coz “bravery" is an intangible quality. It can't be measured. So I have just as many proofs of Indian army being “demigods of bravery" as you have of them being “ball-less sissies" -- exactly ZERO.. !!

 

[Laozi]

our kashmir is not enough, it is all our kashmir and indias occupation of a Muslim majority state has ensured hatred and war in the subcontinent permanently

Since being Muslim Majority State is the sole criteria of your claim on Kashmir then Shouldn't India deport all Muslims to Pakistan to avoid reoccurrence of this kind of situation Will your Country agree to take all Muslims living in India along with Kashmir.
BTW lot of countries in your West and North has Mainly Muslim Population, Lay your stake on them as well

on the contrary war with india which has been fought to a standstill has ensured pakistan is free from indian dominance

Why you felt dominated by India at the first place ?

pakistan is growing and as it grows it will add the necessary weapons to defend itself and hurt india

Go Ahead. But first settle ToRs for Panama Leaks urgently, it is wasting your country's precious time

Bangladesh was 1000 miles away from us indians do not have the ability or courage to attack Pakistan if you dont have the balls to do it after Mumbai then you will never have it, because your military knows of the consequences

When Uncle Sam can hold you from you b@lls from more than 1000 miles away and make you deliver whatever he demands then it looks like a lame excuse.
Not taking "Pangas" with suicidal people has nothing to do with, having or not having b@lls. It's sheer common sense