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Why Mahmud of Ghazni attacked Somnath?

Even Mahmud Ghaznavi was not a Pushtun. He was of Turkish origin.

Lineage

Mahmud belonged to the Yamini tribe, a Turco-Persian clan residing in the Nakhistan district of Turkestan. The Yamini tribe were the descendants of the last prince of Persia, Yazdgard i Shahryar, whose family fled to Turkestan after his death.[3]

Good for the Pushtuns!
 
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I am wonder why!!
Is it because u have some pastun populatin,but no significant Uzbek or Tajik population who Moghuls actully were, to denominate them as pakistani too??


Coming Afgan/pashtuns,the whole world knows what Afgan people think of Durand line and Balochistan.


& What do you think of the Pushtoon people ethnic, What ? They are a mix of old Romans, Uzbek, Mongols (why Genghis khan did not loose his son in the area of Bamiyan while conquering it !) & Turk (Bukhara & Samarkand, present day Uzbekistan & Turkmenistan) ..

The the present day Pushtoon are the mix of the above .. hence, I am quite surprised that you even try to not accept that !

Coming to your second part of the thing .. Why would the Afghan people think anything about Balochistan ? Can you advise me their link with Balochistan ?

Like pakistan,some pashtuns live in Indid(the khans) too because there are the desendants of the Afgan invaders who ruled parts indian subcontinet.

In India there are two types of Khans / Pathans .. :-

1. Dissendents.
2. Khan / Pathan was also a title of bravery which was given by the Mughal courts. Just like the title of Malik which was actually given by the British.
 
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The tale of Somnath had a different grossly image also. Mahmud of Ghazni had some divination to assault the temple which was on a long journey to him. He had called up all his force and they all prayed and fasted before the resolute journey to be made. There was going on a vulgar practice in the temple which had changed into a great centre of enforced joymaking in the name of religion. Many well known heads or chiefs of clans had their daughters living in the temple to serve the priests. It is told that many Hindus who were forced to carry on the custom and did possess honour had approached the Mahmud of Ghazna. At last the time was ripe and he got on his way to the task.
There is no doubt about that Mahmud did love wealth and treasure and had collected a lot from different places but in this case he was offered with immense wealth by the joint priests of Somnath which he denied and making the distruction of the temple made the evil practices vanish. This was all not just to break the idol of Hindus but breaking that did break all the evil institution attached to that.
 
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The tale of Somnath had a different grossly image also. Mahmud of Ghazni had some divination to assault the temple which was on a long journey to him. He had called up all his force and they all prayed and fasted before the resolute journey to be made. There was going on a vulgar practice in the temple which had changed into a great centre of enforced joymaking in the name of religion. Many well known heads or chiefs of clans had their daughters living in the temple to serve the priests. It is told that many Hindus who were forced to carry on the custom and did possess honour had approached the Mahmud of Ghazna. At last the time was ripe and he got on his way to the task.
There is no doubt about that Mahmud did love wealth and treasure and had collected a lot from different places but in this case he was offered with immense wealth by the joint priests of Somnath which he denied and making the distruction of the temple made the evil practices vanish. This was all not just to break the idol of Hindus but breaking that did break all the evil institution attached to that.

My word.. amazing !!

Going by this acceptance & anology, would the demolition of Babri Masjid be ok ? Or.. are there some other rules for that ?

Whats the source of this gyan ?
 
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In 1000 AD Mahmud defeated Raja Jaipal, a scion of the Hindu Shahiya dynasty of Kabul. This dynasty had been for long the doorkeeper of India in the Northwest. Mahmud collected 250,000 dinars as indemnity. That perhaps was normal business of an empire builder. But in 1004 AD he stormed Bhatiya and plundered the place. He stayed there for some time to convert the Hindus to Islam with the help of mullahs he had brought with him.

In 1008 AD he captured Nagarkot (Kangra). The loot amounted to 70,000,000 dirhams in coins and 700,400 mans of gold and silver, besides plenty of precious stones and embroidered cloths. In 1011 AD he plundered Thanesar which was undefended, destroyed many temples, and broke a large number of idols. The chief idol, that of Chakraswamin, was taken to Ghazni and thrown into the public square for defilement under the feet of the faithful. According to Tarikh-i-Yamini of Utbi, Mahmud's secretary,

"The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously [at Thanesar] that the stream was discolored, notwithstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink it. The Sultan returned with plunder which is impossible to count. Praise he to Allah for the honor he bestows on Islam and Muslims."

In 1013 AD Mahmud advanced against Nandana where the Shahiya king, Anandapal, had established his new capital. The Hindus fought very hard but lost. Again, the temples were destroyed, and innocent citizens slaughtered. Utbi provides an account of the plunder and the prisoners of war:

"The Sultan returned in the rear of immense booty, and slaves were so plentiful that they became very cheap and men of respectability in their native land were degraded by becoming slaves of common shopkeepers. But this is the goodness of Allah, who bestows honor on his own religion and degrades infidelity."

The road was now clear for an assault on the heartland of Hindustan. In December 1018 AD Mahmud crossed the Yamuna, collected 1,000,000 dirhams from Baran (Bulandshahar), and marched to Mahaban in Mathura district. Utbi records:

"The infidels...deserted the fort and tried to cross the foaming river...but many of them were slain, taken or drowned... Nearly fifty thousand men were killed."

Mathura was the next victim. Mahmud seized five gold idols weighing 89,300 missals and 200 silver idols. According to Utbi, "The Sultan gave orders that all the temples should be burnt with naptha and fire, and levelled with the ground." The pillage of the city continued for 20 days. Mahmud now turned towards Kanauj which had been the seat of several Hindu dynasties. Utbi continues: "In Kanauj there were nearly ten thousand temples... Many of the inhabitants of the place fled in consequence of witnessing the fate of their deaf and dumb idols. Those who did not fly were put to death. The Sultan gave his soldiers leave to plunder and take prisoners."

The Brahmins of Munj, which was attacked next, fought to the last man after throwing their wives and children into fire. The fate of Asi was sealed when its ruler took fright and fled. According to Utbi, ".... the Sultan ordered that his five forts should be demolished from their foundations, the inhabitants buried in their ruins, and the soldiers of the garrison plundered, slain and captured".

Shrawa, the next important place to be invaded, met the same fate. Utbi concludes:

"The Muslims paid no regard to the booty till they had satiated themselves with the slaughter of the infidels and worshipers of sun and fire. The friends of Allah searched the bodies of the slain for three days in order to obtain booty...The booty amounted in gold and silver, rubies and pearls nearly to three hundred thousand dirhams, and the number of prisoners may be conceived from the fact that each was sold for two to ten dirhams. These were afterwards taken to Ghazni and merchants came from distant cities to purchase them, so that the countries of Mawaraun-Nahr, Iraq and Khurasan were filled with them, and the fair and the dark, the rich and the poor, were commingled in one common slavery."

Mahmud's sack of Somnath is too well-known to be retold here. What needs emphasizing is that the fragments of the famous Sivalinga were carried to Ghazni. Some of them were turned into steps of the Jama Masjid in that city. The rest were sent to Mecca, Medina, and Baghdad to be desecrated in the same manner.

Mahmud's son Masud tried to follow in the footsteps of his father. In 1037 AD he succeeded in sacking the fort of Hansi which was defended very bravely by the Hindus. The Tarikh-us-Subuktigin records: "The Brahmins and other high ranking men were slain, and their women and children were carried away captive, and all the treasure which was found was distributed among the army."

Masud could not repeat the performance due to his preoccupations elsewhere.


Looks like a common thief to me,reminds of some scenes from the Schindler's list.
 
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^As disgusting as these descriptions are, they were written by the conquerors themselves.
 
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^As disgusting as these descriptions are, they were written by the conquerors themselves.

The tragedy is that such people are the ones that are considered to be the examples to follow and holy men by far too many.

This is the kind if person that our neighboring country names it's missiles after! The person who is revered as "but shikan par excellence"!

When the same people then talk of peace and tolerance, it becomes a bit difficult to swallow!
 
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My word.. amazing !!

Going by this acceptance & anology, would the demolition of Babri Masjid be ok ? Or.. are there some other rules for that ?

Whats the source of this gyan ?

Ofcourse if there is carried out some in-humane task in a mosque I shall assist you to demolish. Indian monks demolished Babri Mosque which is one of the greatest mistakes done in history. Aurangzeb Alamgir is heard of demolishing some temples which were also unwisely and cost the empire a slavery but not is the case of Mahmud of Ghazna. Study Hindu History and conclude yourself.
 
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I am wonder why!!
& What do you think of the Pushtoon people ethnic, What ? They are a mix of old Romans, Uzbek, Mongols (why Genghis khan did not loose his son in the area of Bamiyan while conquering it !) & Turk (Bukhara & Samarkand, present day Uzbekistan & Turkmenistan) ..

The the present day Pushtoon are the mix of the above .. hence, I am quite surprised that you even try to not accept that !

Coming to your second part of the thing .. Why would the Afghan people think anything about Balochistan ? Can you advise me their link with Balochistan ?

Like pakistan,some pashtuns live in India
Iranians are Aryans and this part of the country including Kabul is the province 'Khurasan' of old Persia. These Pushtuns are not Pushtuns as a race but it is just according to the language they speak and is not a proper name. The proper name is Afghan. These live in the hilly and plateau area between Kabul and River Indus. Afghans and Tajiks are basically Iranians and Tajik is given name to those Iranians who live on the Border area with Turks and to defend the country against Turks. Similarly Baluchis are also Persian people who have a slightly different language than Persian. Linguistically Tajiks, Baluch and Pushtun or Afghans are all from the Iranian group. Iranians are told to be Aryans with all these branches of Baluch, Afghan, Tajik and Kurds which are not here. All these branches of Iranians are cut off with the change in the borders of empires and diversity of religion. Afghans preferred the orthodox Islam and naturally got cut off from the western part and remained all about attached to India just like Baluchistan.
In Pakistan there is some population of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Qirghiz, Turkomans, Hazara and Uighur-Turks but that is scattered and has no considerable geographical area of own. Turkomans, Qirghiz and Uighur are Turks while Hazaras and Uzbeks are Mughals but in greater clan these are also in Turkish group. Hazaras have adopted Persian as their prime language but is mixed with Mogholi words. Uzbek, Turkomans, Uighur and Qirghiz speak their Turkic languages. These are known bigger clans of Turks while there are more Turkic tribes in Afghanistan.
Changhiz Khan had lost his son in Bamyan province of Afghanistan where there was a battle fought between Sultan Jalaluddin and his son Shegi kutuku. The Mongol army was defeated by the allied force of Turks, Persians and Afghans. When there was the booty being divided, the Iranian chief was hit with a whip by the Turkish commander in the quarrel to own the nice horse of the slain Mongol chief. Then on becoming angry the Iranians broke away from the alliance and then Afghans and having only accompanied by few hundred Turks the Sultan rushed to India where on the bank of Indus the Turks fought to death the mighty force of Changhis and Sultan plunged into the water and got through tht swimming alongwith his horse. Changhiz Khan seeing this turned to his sons and said to them. " Look at him! A father needs a son like him. How will one sleep in peace while an enemy like him lives on the face of earth'.
 
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everyone see ghazni as a thief, all of u know how to deal with thief.
 
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Ofcourse if there is carried out some in-humane task in a mosque I shall assist you to demolish. Indian monks demolished Babri Mosque which is one of the greatest mistakes done in history. Aurangzeb Alamgir is heard of demolishing some temples which were also unwisely and cost the empire a slavery but not is the case of Mahmud of Ghazna. Study Hindu History and conclude yourself.

I have heard the BJP called by many names.. ' Monks' is a new one. I am sure they'll like this one.
 
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Hey ,

Y'll why don't u live like good neighbours like US and Canada.
Imagine US and Canada start fighting with each other over piece of land..
will they..never.

live like good neighnbours
 
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