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Because blame the Jews is the oldest trick in the book.


I wish it was true.

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Now you’re tricking with such statement “Blame the Jew” and it’s the oldest trick used by Jews throughout history after committing mischief. The fact Jew assisting our enemies on our borders opened some options for Pakistan. ISI can work beyond its regional borders and you wouldn’t even imagine just the way ISI caught Indian generals and their jew advisor offguard. So take the message back to your people and tell your government not to F with us.
 
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On February 27th, Israeli news publication Haaretz reported that India’s Air Force had used Israeli-made bombs in its recent Line of Control (LoC) violation against Pakistan, citing local news websites which had been briefed by Indian security sources.

The reports allege that ‘five Mirage jets armed with Israeli-made Spice 2000 smart missiles attacked what New Delhi says was a terrorist training camp’ in Pakistan. While quietly hidden by the mainstream media, it actually transpires that Israel is a key weapons supplier to the Indian Army, with its current relationship estimated at approximately a billion dollars each year. In fact, India has become the largest weapons market for Israel’s bombing arms trade, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Israeli air defence, radar systems and ammunition.

Thanks in part to veteran journalist Robert Fisk, this issue has now been brought out into the mainstream narrative. As outlined by Fisk, the ties between the two nations run a bit deeper than the arms exports and provision of weapons which have now been used to bomb Pakistan.


For instance, Israel has been aligning itself with India’s nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party(BJP) government, in part of what has become known an ‘anti-Islamist’ coalition.

It is rarely mentioned in general that aside from going to war with Iran and wiping out as much of Palestinian existence as possible, Israel’s ambition for the region is to become one of the major, if not the top, arms exporter. This has been going on for quite some time. In fact, the usual go-to trope that the US should support Israel because it is the “only democracy” in the Middle East rapidly comes undone when you look at the types of regimes that Israel sells its arms to.

Between 2013 and 2017, Israel’s biggest arms-dealing clients were India, Azerbaijan and Vietnam. It has also been selling tanks, weapons and boats to the dictatorship in Myanmar, even while it continues to brutally oppress its Rohingya population.

It seems to be this ‘anti-Islamist’ element which naturally draws the eye of the Israeli arms trade and political support. In his first visit to India last year, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately drew anti-Islamist parallels between India and Israel by noting the 2008 attacks on Mumbai which killed scores of civilians, stating that,

“Indians and Israelis know too well the pain of terrorist attacks.”

Only in Netanyahu’s world could this issue be simplified to this extent. Pakistan has “bad Muslim people” that want to hurt India, and India should receive Israeli support in order to counter this threat from its neighbour. Never mind that, as Fisk did well to note, India itself has one of the largest Muslim populations in the world. It is never as simple as the “us versus them” mentality which Netanyahu often seems intent on formulating.

According to a Pakistani publication, India and Israel had been plotting to attack Pakistan back in February. Allegedly, Israel was hoping to expose a dent in Pakistan’s nuclear assets, which are not to be written off lightly either. This report has also been completely ignored by western media, even while more and more reports emerge indicating Indo-Israel cooperation on the Pakistan issue.

That being said, everything appears to be happening for a reason. In light of these recent revelations, a Pakistani daily lamented that Islamabad should develop ties with Israel to counter the “worrying” India-Israel “nexus”. Right now, Israel and Pakistan do not have diplomatic ties. However, perhaps now Pakistan won’t have a choice but to open up some meaningful dialogue with Israel, with the ultimate goal being to avert a catastrophic war in the region. Israel will likely be on board with developing relations with Pakistan, especially if certain reports are true that Saudi Arabia is attempting to rein Pakistan in its anti-Iran, so-called ‘Arab NATO’.

As intriguing (and yet unsurprising) as these revelations are, the more curious development confirmed further down the aforementioned Haaretz report is that several reporters, including one that worked for the Associated Press, ventured to the site of India’s bombing near the town of Balakot. What they found there was,

“Several large craters, a few upended trees and villagers wondering why they had been targeted.”

Furthermore, Balakot Police Chief Saghir Hussain Shah also said he had sent teams to the areas hit by the bombs and found a mostly deserted, wooded area.

So, as is often the case, the media has incessantly parroted the usual narrative that India bombed a terrorist training camp in Pakistan without question, even though the answer is staring them right in the face. If western media are only finding bewildered villagers who are unsure why Pakistan’s fields were bombed by India, it seems to suggest that India’s account of what went down is probably not at all that genuine or accurate.

But don’t expect the media to talk openly about any of these connections anytime soon. Because at the end of the day, perhaps the real issue at play isn’t that India and Pakistan have a deep need to fight a conflict and amass a potential nuclear holocaust. Perhaps it is that Israel’s concealed role in the conflict is designed to ignite an already volatile region, and help destabilise a country right on Iran’s border, further plunging its number one adversary into turmoil.


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Israel has lots of reservations regarding pakistan but these can be exacerbated when Pak starts leading military alliance of Muslim countries. Isreael knows how to keep pakistan on its toes by inflicting lots of Economic damages to Pakistan through india n AFGHANISTAN so the same she is doing.

Pakistan needs to grow its econmy n start making bullwark in shape of its leadership of Military alliance. First of all v should not have accepted this n if v did then v need to lead our Economy to lead in our n defense of Arab world..
 
Because blame the Jews is the oldest trick in the book.


I wish it was true.

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History is witness that Indians are useless as a fighting force or even as an ally. If Israel can get of its high horse, why can't Israel not make a deal with Pakistan instead? These two can get to bake the cake and eat it too. The benefits are immense. I don't think there is anyone in the entire region that can challenge them militarily.
 
india is being used like a cheap whore by usa and israel! modi is their tool and his ego will destroy india!

its celebrations time, remember what happened to us when we became tools of US, its their turn now and we are starting to see the results of it, just keep our defenses up and enjoy the show that going on beyond our eastern borders.
 
Why do Israel wants a Pakistan-India war?
  • Google "Four blood moons" and its value for Israelis.
  • Jews believe 4 blood moons are a sign for them, and previously every time they appeared, Jews achieved something big.
  • Last 4 blood moon were signed in 2015 - and Israelis believe within next 6 years (in or before 2021) they'll construct Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem in place of Masjid-e-Aqsa. For that construction, Masjid-e-Aqsa will be demolished.
  • Since Muslims have special association with Masjid-e-Aqsa (it being Qiblatul-Awal), if Israel demolishes it, Muslim world will respond. That means from Israeli point of view every Muslim country that has ability to militarily respond has to be "defanged" or "engaged".
  • There are only 3 Muslim countries in the world that can oppose Israel a military challenge including Iran, Pakistan and Turkey. Rest of the Muslim world is either destroyed or politically/economically managed.
  • Israel would want India to initiate a sizeable war with Pakistan around year 2020-2021. When Pakistan is engaged with India, it will not be able to pose a military threat to Israel when Masjid-e-Aqsa is demolished.
  • Israelis believe within 40 years of construction of "Temple of Solomon", their awaited Christ (Anti-Christ / Dajjal) will arrive.
  • If Pakistan undergoes in a war with India in 2020-2021, it is told to be a 6 years long battle (GhazwatulHind), and same Pakistani army who will win over India will join Prophet Isa PBUH when he arrives. From Israeli point of view, if Pakistan is weakened or it ceases to exist, that will be fantastic - and after TTP, BLA, MQM (terrorist means) and economic collapse (imposing of inept leadership) failed, direct conflict with India is their left hope. India too wants to cool Kashmir down and deny CPEC/OBOR so war is also feasible from their stand-point.

Above points are conclusion of several years of study and learnings from multiple resources - but Future nevertheless is only known to Allah Subhan WaTaela alone and only Allah knows the best.
 
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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a joint statement after delegation-level talks at Hyderabad House on January 15, 2018 in New Delhi, India. PHOTO: GETTY

On February 27th, Israeli news publication Haaretz reported that India’s Air Force had used Israeli-made bombs in its recent Line of Control (LoC) violation against Pakistan, citing local news websites which had been briefed by Indian security sources.

The reports allege that ‘five Mirage jets armed with Israeli-made Spice 2000 smart missiles attacked what New Delhi says was a terrorist training camp’ in Pakistan. While quietly hidden by the mainstream media, it actually transpires that Israel is a key weapons supplier to the Indian Army, with its current relationship estimated at approximately a billion dollars each year. In fact, India has become the largest weapons market for Israel’s bombing arms trade, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Israeli air defence, radar systems and ammunition.

Thanks in part to veteran journalist Robert Fisk, this issue has now been brought out into the mainstream narrative. As outlined by Fisk, the ties between the two nations run a bit deeper than the arms exports and provision of weapons which have now been used to bomb Pakistan.


For instance, Israel has been aligning itself with India’s nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party(BJP) government, in part of what has become known an ‘anti-Islamist’ coalition.

It is rarely mentioned in general that aside from going to war with Iran and wiping out as much of Palestinian existence as possible, Israel’s ambition for the region is to become one of the major, if not the top, arms exporter. This has been going on for quite some time. In fact, the usual go-to trope that the US should support Israel because it is the “only democracy” in the Middle East rapidly comes undone when you look at the types of regimes that Israel sells its arms to.

Between 2013 and 2017, Israel’s biggest arms-dealing clients were India, Azerbaijan and Vietnam. It has also been selling tanks, weapons and boats to the dictatorship in Myanmar, even while it continues to brutally oppress its Rohingya population.

It seems to be this ‘anti-Islamist’ element which naturally draws the eye of the Israeli arms trade and political support. In his first visit to India last year, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately drew anti-Islamist parallels between India and Israel by noting the 2008 attacks on Mumbai which killed scores of civilians, stating that,

“Indians and Israelis know too well the pain of terrorist attacks.”

Only in Netanyahu’s world could this issue be simplified to this extent. Pakistan has “bad Muslim people” that want to hurt India, and India should receive Israeli support in order to counter this threat from its neighbour. Never mind that, as Fisk did well to note, India itself has one of the largest Muslim populations in the world. It is never as simple as the “us versus them” mentality which Netanyahu often seems intent on formulating.

According to a Pakistani publication, India and Israel had been plotting to attack Pakistan back in February. Allegedly, Israel was hoping to expose a dent in Pakistan’s nuclear assets, which are not to be written off lightly either. This report has also been completely ignored by western media, even while more and more reports emerge indicating Indo-Israel cooperation on the Pakistan issue.

That being said, everything appears to be happening for a reason. In light of these recent revelations, a Pakistani daily lamented that Islamabad should develop ties with Israel to counter the “worrying” India-Israel “nexus”. Right now, Israel and Pakistan do not have diplomatic ties. However, perhaps now Pakistan won’t have a choice but to open up some meaningful dialogue with Israel, with the ultimate goal being to avert a catastrophic war in the region. Israel will likely be on board with developing relations with Pakistan, especially if certain reports are true that Saudi Arabia is attempting to rein Pakistan in its anti-Iran, so-called ‘Arab NATO’.

As intriguing (and yet unsurprising) as these revelations are, the more curious development confirmed further down the aforementioned Haaretz report is that several reporters, including one that worked for the Associated Press, ventured to the site of India’s bombing near the town of Balakot. What they found there was,

“Several large craters, a few upended trees and villagers wondering why they had been targeted.”

Furthermore, Balakot Police Chief Saghir Hussain Shah also said he had sent teams to the areas hit by the bombs and found a mostly deserted, wooded area.

So, as is often the case, the media has incessantly parroted the usual narrative that India bombed a terrorist training camp in Pakistan without question, even though the answer is staring them right in the face. If western media are only finding bewildered villagers who are unsure why Pakistan’s fields were bombed by India, it seems to suggest that India’s account of what went down is probably not at all that genuine or accurate.

But don’t expect the media to talk openly about any of these connections anytime soon. Because at the end of the day, perhaps the real issue at play isn’t that India and Pakistan have a deep need to fight a conflict and amass a potential nuclear holocaust. Perhaps it is that Israel’s concealed role in the conflict is designed to ignite an already volatile region, and help destabilise a country right on Iran’s border, further plunging its number one adversary into turmoil.


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Another BS feed from this hate feeding authors.

Why do Israel wants a Pakistan-India war?
  • Google "Four blood moons" and its value for Israelis.
  • Jews believe 4 blood moons are a sign for them, and previously every time they appeared, Jews achieved something big.
  • Last 4 blood moon were signed in 2015 - and Israelis believe within next 6 years (in or before 2021) they'll construct Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem in place of Masjid-e-Aqsa. For that construction, Masjid-e-Aqsa will be demolished.
  • Since Muslims have special association with Masjid-e-Aqsa (it being Qiblatul-Awal), if Israel demolishes it, Muslim world will respond. That means from Israeli point of view every Muslim country that has ability to militarily respond has to be "defanged" or "engaged".
  • There are only 3 Muslim countries in the world that can oppose Israel a military challenge including Iran, Pakistan and Turkey. Rest of the Muslim world is either destroyed or politically/economically managed.
  • Israel would want India to initiate a sizeable war with Pakistan around year 2020-2021. When Pakistan is engaged with India, it will not be able to pose a military threat to Israel when Masjid-e-Aqsa is demolished.
  • Israelis believe within 40 years of construction of "Temple of Solomon", their awaited Christ (Anti-Christ / Dajjal) will arrive.
  • If Pakistan undergoes in a war with India in 2020-2021, it is told to be a 6 years long battle (GhazwatulHind), and same Pakistani army who will win over India will join Prophet Isa PBUH when he arrives. From Israeli point of view, if Pakistan is weakened or it ceases to exist, that will be fantastic - and after TTP, BLA, MQM (terrorist means) and economic collapse (imposing of inept leadership) failed, direct conflict with India is their left hope. India too wants to cool Kashmir down and deny CPEC/OBOR so war is also feasible from their stand-point.

Above points are conclusion of several years of study and learnings from multiple resources - but Future nevertheless is only known to Allah Subhan WaTaela alone and only Allah knows the best.
Go and read Laila Majoon, you will be able to decipher a lot of hidden clues.
Another kak praat by seniors on conspiracies. Amazing pal. Wake up.

Just complete BS to nth degree. You are no different from the evangelists who are trying to push their messianic views to make end of earth come closer.

Dont put this stupid view points. Look back and read Iqbal - State of affairs in the moslem world was exactly like it is back 90+ years ago. Read Shikwa and understand....

Amazing, i really feel sorry for you, you have the intellect but go down the path of moronism.

India is a sacrificial lamb with bomb attacked to it, with the remote control in the hands of Israel/Zionists.

They want to keep Pakistan engaged with India so they can demolish Al Aqsa mosque, build their temple over it, expand to greater Israel and ofcourse bring forth their messiah, Dajjal.

Indians are taken for a ride, which will cost them their nationhood.
Complete rubbish. You come up with these conspiracies always.

If Al Aqsa was to be demolished nothing would have stopped Isreal yet it continues to make sure it is there; there will be zero demolishment.
Let me ask you very clearly - who is the one that has blown bombs across mosques etc etc in suicide bombs... it was moslems not others.
The enemy you fear is within you unfortunately and yet it is the stupid Iranian mullah and other brigades that feed nonsensical propaganda.
Learn to understand the message of the prophets where the torah comes in and is part of each person in Islam.
 
Another BS feed from this hate feeding authors.


Go and read Laila Majoon, you will be able to decipher a lot of hidden clues.
Another kak praat by seniors on conspiracies. Amazing pal. Wake up.

Just complete BS to nth degree. You are no different from the evangelists who are trying to push their messianic views to make end of earth come closer.

Dont put this stupid view points. Look back and read Iqbal - State of affairs in the moslem world was exactly like it is back 90+ years ago. Read Shikwa and understand....

Amazing, i really feel sorry for you, you have the intellect but go down the path of moronism.

I cannot help you if you cannot see and I have no complains for you not trying. Unless you provide an alternate explanation of events as they are folding, your anger is not going to earn you an ear.
 
Now you’re tricking with such statement “Blame the Jew” and it’s the oldest trick used by Jews throughout history after committing mischief. The fact Jew assisting our enemies on our borders opened some options for Pakistan. ISI can work beyond its regional borders and you wouldn’t even imagine just the way ISI caught Indian generals and their jew advisor offguard. So take the message back to your people and tell your government not to F with us.

Man, you have serious issues in conspiracies.

Your generals and friends have caused havoc across the region with their proxies and yet have the gaul to come up with conspiracies. if anything, put the flipping ISI and its pot bellies who have fed the snakes of terrorism across the entire region.

Your institutions are the cause of the entire issues. Look in the mirror friend, you are your best enemy not anyone else.

Another Iranian author feeding the mullah conspiracy narrative. Amazing.

I cannot help you if you cannot see and I have no complains for you not trying. Unless you provide an alternate explanation of events as they are folding, your anger is not going to earn you an ear.
Alternatives from an iranian who is the mouth piece of mullah conspiracies is not an alternative fact.

Fact - your institutions are directly involved with terror activities. Dont complain if you cannot get your head out of the sand

@waz please shut this iranian fed thread down.
 
Alternatives from an iranian who is the mouth piece of mullah conspiracies is not an alternative fact.

Fact - your institutions are directly involved with terror activities. Dont complain if you cannot get your head out of the sand

You are angry and anger is not a stance. Come up with alternate explanation or relax and rest.

Let me give you some clues so yo may start thinking
  • Is Israel siding with India against Pakistan - YES or NO ?
  • Has Israel previously helped India against Pakistan - YES or NO?
  • Try to find a logical explanation why a tiny country sitting 2700 KM away from Pakistan is intersted in its affairs, and is willing to have it eliminated. It's not a matter of defence sales understand words of David bin Gurion about Pakistan and what he said in 1947 about Pakistan.
If you have an alternate explanation then share it with the forum, or alternatively, you can close your eyes, ears and shut your thinking modules in brain and pretend you live on Mars. Your call.
 
Complete rubbish. You come up with these conspiracies always.

If Al Aqsa was to be demolished nothing would have stopped Isreal yet it continues to make sure it is there; there will be zero demolishment.
Let me ask you very clearly - who is the one that has blown bombs across mosques etc etc in suicide bombs... it was moslems not others.
The enemy you fear is within you unfortunately and yet it is the stupid Iranian mullah and other brigades that feed nonsensical propaganda.
Learn to understand the message of the prophets where the torah comes in and is part of each person in Islam.

Now now, the inner Zionist is coming out, have you? Not long along you said you had nothing to do with these tw***.

Israel can't demolish Al Aqsa because it will cause it's nationhood as things stands. It needs to engage Pakistan with India so it can pursue it's goals. The Jewish messiah won't come unless their build their temple over the site where Al Aqsa stands. It's not even an secret.

You keep on burying your head in sand.

And screw Persian mullah. We don't need their approval to see and understand as to what is going on.
 
Now now, the inner Zionist is coming out, have you? Not long along you said you had nothing to do with these tw***.

Israel can't demolish Al Aqsa because it will cause it's nationhood as things stands. It needs to engage Pakistan with India so it can pursue it's goals. The Jewish messiah won't come unless their build their temple over the site where Al Aqsa stands. It's not even an secret.

You keep on burying your head in sand.

And screw Persian mullah. We don't need their approval to see and understand as to what is going on.
Pal. i am not zionist ... not a single cent.
dont you get it.... idiots are trying to put conspiracies out of the air.

there is no messiah coming in our life time; this is the narrative which evangelists are pushing on everyones mind.
take up the fight with them sitting pretty in massive donations in US.

You are angry and anger is not a stance. Come up with alternate explanation or relax and rest.

Let me give you some clues so yo may start thinking
  • Is Israel siding with India against Pakistan - YES or NO ?
  • Has Israel previously helped India against Pakistan - YES or NO?
  • Try to find a logical explanation why a tiny country sitting 2700 KM away from Pakistan is intersted in its affairs, and is willing to have it eliminated. It's not a matter of defence sales understand words of David bin Gurion about Pakistan and what he said in 1947 about Pakistan.
If you have an alternate explanation then share it with the forum, or alternatively, you can close your eyes, ears and shut your thinking modules in brain and pretend you live on Mars. Your call.

Iranian alternative facts... keep it to yourself and yes, you will tell me that there was a split on the moon too as also a normal bs making rounds in mullah circle.

  • Is Israel siding with India against Pakistan - NO - It sells weapons to India China etc. I told you before India is a huge market.
  • Has Israel previously helped India against Pakistan - NO - back to #1. Why dont you go and narrate this to French or US who sell to both sides? Go check the volume and amount then come to the table.
  • Try to find a logical explanation why a tiny country sitting 2700 KM away from Pakistan is intersted in its affairs, and is willing to have it eliminated. It's not a matter of defence sales understand words of David bin Gurion about Pakistan and what he said in 1947 about Pakistan. -- World grows up since 47... Egypt and others made peace... why dont you?
 
Pal. i am not zionist ... not a single cent.
dont you get it.... idiots are trying to put conspiracies out of the air.

there is no messiah coming in our life time; this is the narrative which evangelists are pushing on everyones mind.
take up the fight with them sitting pretty in massive donations in US.

Are you people dumb or you think others are naive?

 
I cannot help you if you cannot see and I have no complains for you not trying. Unless you provide an alternate explanation of events as they are folding, your anger is not going to earn you an ear.
it is ok; keep endowing in these false narratives and enjoy. yet you dont address the illiteracy which feeds the frenzy of such rabid conspiracies; Iqbal says it right, there is 'tarbiyat' but it is not worth anything.
 
@500 Nice Try mixing "Jews" and "Zionists"...
You almost got them... almost... But in EU/US it's still working... even though it's losing it's "light"...

Keep working hard...
But here an advice... When you shove something down the throat of another... Always do it slowly and calmly... Otherwise He/She get fed up... and the result is... most of the Time "Ugly"...
 
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