Why Islam doesn’t need a reformation

[Peaceful Civilian]

And all the verses you are speaking of, are mentioned where in Quran?

@Akheilos There is limit of ignorance....You can't see our laws made according to quran and Sunna and 1973 constitution ....Recent Death punishment by court in rawalpindi for blasphemy under Islamic laws .. There are many hanged to death due to blasphemy here in Pakistan .. Can you Google. ..You will find thousands hanged till death by courts for blasphemy. .....

 

[Dubious]

@Peaceful Civilian, there you are already called an Indian, welcome to the fold bro.

and here comes the cheer leader again...Dude didnt you get part in the squad that you have to come here to vent?

He is soo confused he wouldnt even fly your flag

 

[Spring Onion]

Even Qadyani are very knowledgeable people in the basics he is from the other side of the border...good going on the masking of the IP..

You see Muslim Ummah is never taken as a point to fight about in Pakistan but it is a very crusial point in India

I just had that feeling so i asked. May be he is an Indian because his earlier posts always show tendency towards anti-Pakistan . anyway whatever e is not my concern but again this has nothing to do with ummah thing he is just blatantly saying we should add new verses lolzzz this is laughable because a Muslim with even a poorest knowledge would never say such a stupid thing.

Quran is complete and final book. There is only one thing needed and that is understanding Quran without any bias and people should stop or be stopped from misinterpretation

 

[gslv]

He is soo confused he wouldnt even fly your flag

I agree he is an Indian masquerading as a Pakistani. @Peaceful Civilian, show your true flag.

 

[Dubious]

@akhelios There is limit of ignorance....You can't see our laws made according to quran and Sunna and 1973 constitution ....Recent Death punishment by court in rawalpindi for blasphemy under Islamic laws .. There are many hanged to death due to blasphemy here in Pakistan .. Can you you Google. ..You will find thousands hanged till death by courts for blasphemy. .....

Do any of these have anything to do with ISLAM?

NOPE...

Are they part of Islam = nope!

But the very fact our country was built to separate Muslims from ignorant people like you....speaks volume itself....

Just coz people misuse laws you cant blame the religion ...Why cant you learn the meaning of responsibility? Each is responsible for their own shit and shouldnt be pinned on everyone....

The very fact that our country has a constitution which is partly Islamic and the fact that Muslims are majority and also the fact that Islam had nothing to do with terrorist so you equating or even using that as an example is purely disgusting...Piggybacking on shit is not really honourable!

 

[Spring Onion]

No problem at all even buddy... You can criticize constructively as in this world things doesn't in absolute manner.....

You Indians should reform hindu cast system instead of cheer-leading against Islam

 

[Dubious]

I agree he is an Indian masquerading as a Pakistani. @Peaceful Civilian, show your true flag.

I am reporting you for cheerleading ...it is an accessory to trolling

 

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@Peaceful Civilian , Are you a Muslim?

 

[Dubious]

his earlier posts always show tendency towards anti-Pakistan

yup I have noticed

this has nothing to do with ummah thing he is just blatantly saying we should add new verses lolzzz this is laughable because a Muslim with even a poorest knowledge would never say such a stupid thing.

The very fact he brought that in the discussion was the same what happened to me when I discussed the same issue with indians on PDF...they always drag the ummah issue its like a permanent burn...

And yes I agree with the bold bit

Quran is complete and final book. There is only one thing needed and that is understanding Quran without any bias and people should stop or be stopped from misinterpretation

Ignorant people always forget this bit

they need to remove stuff like non believers should be killed, adulterers should be stoned to death, women must cover head to toe, cant eat bacon or have a beer..

We have that stuff in hinduism let those who feel that need join that

Plus the bold part doesnt exist in the Quran so before advocating anything suggest you bother reading what you are bashing

I see this challenge still standing

Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way. [quran 4:173]

Kindly do tell me if one has lost their heads in the 1st stance of disbelief how do they do a repeated cycle (in red) in the above verse?

Until and unless you are ALLAH no one is ASKED to bother about them!

 

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they need to remove stuff like non believers should be killed, adulterers should be stoned to death, women must cover head to toe, cant eat bacon or have a beer..

Our religion tells us to deal with them through 3 ways.

1. Asked them to convert to Islam
2. If they refuse,ask them to give jizyah
3. If they refuse any of the above options, Then Prepare to fight with those who want to fight.No children,women even crops should be affected.

Please do not interfere in religious matters if you do not have knowledge.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Do any of these have anything to do with ISLAM?

NOPE...

Are they part of Islam = nope!

But the very fact our country was built to separate Muslims from ignorant people like you....speaks volume

So they are not part of Islam they are kafir. .... Who gave you right to say them unislamic even they are following sharia law.... Our courts hanged them till death for blasphemy using Space law? of course sharia law and they are following 1973 Islamic consititution agreed by Islamic scholars....

 

[Agni-5]

We have that stuff in hinduism let those who feel that need join that

Plus the bold part doesnt exist in the Quran so before advocating anything suggest you bother reading what you are bashing

I see this challenge still standing

I'm no expert in either religion but I've never heard of non believers being killed in hinduism... and have 0 interest in reading the quran.

why don't you clear my misconceptions, then ?

is there no such thing in the quran that says the kuffar should be killed ?

do you agree that adulterers should be stoned to death and thieves should be decapitated ?

why is there a problem with bacon ?

 

[Dubious]

So they are not part of Islam they are kafir

Did I say that?

What is your problem?

Who thought you such a narrow minded mentality?

Who gave you right to say them unislamic even they are following sharia law....

Are they? Even the person with the basic knowledge of SHARIAH law (coz you brought it up I ASSUME YOU know it) would know what Shariah law is...It isnt a book...it is a dynamic law which has been the responsibility of scholars to adjust based on improvements in technology BUT NOT going against the fundamentals of Islam..There is no proper 1 book called Shariah...it even varies from sect

Since you dont have even the basic knowledge of Shariah it is useless to explain how this is supposed to work....

Our courts hanged them till death for blasphemy using Space law?

That was because people as ignorant as you who know nothing but let the mouth run wild were running the courts and recent FATWAH has called for the protection of minorities....

IF you really need to know what law...take a look at the history of Pakistan or Arab before Islam came....in fact any part of the world because the word BLASPHEMY and having a law for it was Christian creation and 1st used by the crusaders!

of course sharia law and they are following 1973 Islamic consititution agreed by Islamic scholars....

Because you dont know the basics I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself

 

[Agni-5]

Our religion tells us to deal with them through 3 ways.

1. Asked them to convert to Islam
2. If they refuse,ask them to give jizyah
3. If they refuse any of the above options, Then Prepare to fight with those who want to fight.No children,women even crops should be affected.

Please do not interfere in religious matters if you do not have knowledge.

matlab convert or pay hafta.. or die ? that's a very thuggish goonda way of doing things, borderline psychotic even.

 

[Dubious]

I'm no expert in either religion but I've never heard of non believers being killed in hinduism... and have 0 interest in reading the quran.

why don't you clear my misconceptions, then ?

is there no such thing in the quran that says the kuffar should be killed ?

do you agree that adulterers should be stoned to death and thieves should be decapitated ?

why is there a problem with bacon ?

I explained the 1st part...I quoted a verse from the Quran to explain if you cant grasp it I think that is not Islam nor Qurans fault but your own denial complex

I will answer your blasphemy issue just to see if you can comprehend simple knowledge

Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way. [quran 4:173]

Kindly do tell me if one has lost their heads in the 1st stance of disbelief how do they do a repeated cycle (in red) in the above verse?

Until and unless you are ALLAH no one is ASKED to bother about them!

I will answer each of your questions if you can explain that verse to me...it is from the Quran ...so how do you get your head chopped and then regrown so that you can continue the cycle in red?