Why Is Vietnam Performing Better Than Indonesia In Manufacturing Sector? – OpEd

[Bussard Ramjet]

he he, so why too many Hua Chinese escaped to South east asia in the past to get eat.

I was just reading something, and came across this:

Hua–Yi distinction - Wikiwand

Vietnam
After the 18th century, after the devastating Tay Son wars, The ruling Nguyen dynasty consolidated its power by adopting a more radical Confucian worldview, With its territory expanded to its largest extend, the country came to clash with the Khmer and Lao kingdoms and various tribes on the Tay Nguyen highlands such as the Jarai and the Ma. In 1805, the Emperor Gia Long referred to Vietnam as trung quốc, the "middle kingdom".[57] In 1811, Gia Long proposed a law "Hán di hữu hạn", which means "making clear the border between the Vietnamese and barbarians", referring to the Vietnamese as Han people.[58] Cambodia was regularly called Cao Man, the country of "upper barbarians". In fact, earlier dynasties also considered themselves "Hua", in the sense that their nation was civilized, and their kingdom as a polity was at the center of Earth and Heaven. Even with regard to China Proper, Vietnamese dynasties claimed to be the Middle Kingdom while Chinese were "outsiders".[59]


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@Viet @DaiViet

What if Vietnam becomes a province of Zhong guo? With federal structure, and your language protected? Vietnam had no qualm of claiming itself to be Zhongguo in the past. The tensions between China and Vietnam will also disappear.

 

[DaiViet]

Why dont China become a province of Vietnam ? Modern Vietnamese have different ideology with ancient Vietnamese. While ancient Vietnamese connected to ancient Chinese that was because many of them come from what is now called China. However Vietnam and China were two different states since the Ngo dynasty thus we pursue different interests, and have different cultures, only share some similarity.

Isnt it better for the Han Chinese became the Viet, you can wash away your shameful history of being defeated by Mongol, Manchus, Japan and humilated by Western. You can enjoy friendship with Japan,Russia, U.S.. India..etc.

Why would us Viet want to be Chinese that no one likes? Even many Vietnamese Hoa dont want to associate with China why would we? Why would we want to abandon our beautiful Ao Dai for Qipao. Why would we want to abandon easy roman writing system for a complicate mandarin. And there many more reasons to say no.

 

[frequency]

Why dont China become a province of Vietnam ? Modern Vietnamese have different ideology with ancient Vietnamese. While ancient Vietnamese connected to ancient Chinese that was because many of them come from what is now called China. However Vietnam and China were two different states since the Ngo dynasty thus we pursue different interests, and have different cultures, only share some similarity.

Isnt it better for the Han Chinese became the Viet, you can wash away your shameful history of being defeated by Mongol, Manchus, Japan and humilated by Western. You can enjoy friendship with Japan,Russia, U.S.. India..etc.

Why would us Viet want to be Chinese that no one likes? Even many Vietnamese Hoa dont want to associate with China why would we? Why would we want to abandon our beautiful Ao Dai for Qipao. Why would we want to abandon easy roman writing system for a complicate mandarin. And there many more reasons to say no.

Chinese are delusional.

 

[NiceGuy]

I was just reading something, and came across this:

Hua–Yi distinction - Wikiwand

Vietnam
After the 18th century, after the devastating Tay Son wars, The ruling Nguyen dynasty consolidated its power by adopting a more radical Confucian worldview, With its territory expanded to its largest extend, the country came to clash with the Khmer and Lao kingdoms and various tribes on the Tay Nguyen highlands such as the Jarai and the Ma. In 1805, the Emperor Gia Long referred to Vietnam as trung quốc, the "middle kingdom".[57] In 1811, Gia Long proposed a law "Hán di hữu hạn", which means "making clear the border between the Vietnamese and barbarians", referring to the Vietnamese as Han people.[58] Cambodia was regularly called Cao Man, the country of "upper barbarians". In fact, earlier dynasties also considered themselves "Hua", in the sense that their nation was civilized, and their kingdom as a polity was at the center of Earth and Heaven. Even with regard to China Proper, Vietnamese dynasties claimed to be the Middle Kingdom while Chinese were "outsiders".[59]


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@Viet @DaiViet

What if Vietnam becomes a province of Zhong guo? With federal structure, and your language protected? Vietnam had no qualm of claiming itself to be Zhongguo in the past. The tensions between China and Vietnam will also disappear.

t if Vietnam becomes a province of Zhong guo(China), millions hungry barbarrian CNese from CN will floor VN just like they r flooding HongKong now.

VNese simply cant live peacefully together wt those billions hungry people.