Carlosa
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LOL, that would sound insulting. "You are only good for making our underwear."
That's normal for him.
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LOL, that would sound insulting. "You are only good for making our underwear."
I haven't gotten any clothes made in Vietnam yet.It is real. I was shock to know most of the clothes are made with a "Made in Vietnam" tag, including underwear. The Vietnamese are taking over our clothing now.
That's so ridiculous. LOL
Thanks, Vietnam has many opportunity as well. In order to speed up Vietnam development, I believe Vietnamese living abroad must go back to their mainland after accumulating some expertise and capital there to develop their own nation further. Indonesian in other part has better nationalism I guest, most of our white color worker will go back, not many brain drain in our part.
That writer is not a good one I guest........ He/She should focus his writing on the ability of Vietnamese industry in penetrating the US market than talking about the overall industrialization between two nations, even he/she doesnt know about ASEAN manufacturing out put data.
Talking about Vietnam industry, as far as I know, Vietnam has a very good steel industry and this industry export many steel abroad and USA steel industry can be seen as going down (loosing its competitiveness already).
Dude! You have no idea! It is not manufacturing of Korea or Japan that is migrating to Vietnam, it is manufacturing of China, the low end one, that is migrating to Vietnam..
Thanks, Vietnam has many opportunity as well. In order to speed up Vietnam development, I believe Vietnamese living abroad must go back to their mainland after accumulating some expertise and capital there to develop their own nation further. Indonesian in other part has better nationalism I guest, most of our white color worker will go back, not many brain drain in our part.
That writer is not a good one I guest........ He/She should focus his writing on the ability of Vietnamese industry in penetrating the US market than talking about the overall industrialization between two nations, even he/she doesnt know about ASEAN manufacturing out put data.
Talking about Vietnam industry, as far as I know, Vietnam has a very good steel industry and this industry export many steel abroad and USA steel industry can be seen as going down (loosing its competitiveness already).
Actually, many overseas vietnamese are coming back to Vietnam and setting up high tech companies and all sort of business. That makes a big difference. They bring with them a different mind set about how to do things and that's very important for a developing country.
I think for Indonesia the key is to reduce corruption, bureaucracy and red tape and at the same time to give tax incentives, etc to attract foreign investors.
I know a German doing business in Indonesia and those are the things that he always complains about.
Corruption is our biggest problem, thats why we assume that many big corporation in Indonesia need to bribe some one to get any project, even my brother who has won a tender (bidding) need to bribe as well, and as a good Muslim he then give up his entrepreneurship ( even though has already set up a company) and go back again working as an employee. Hard task to do business for a practicing Muslim in Indonesia. If any thing is clean, so business will be played in a fair way, some thing that we are still working on.
Not really, its about the same. The article actually portraits the vietnamese government in a better light than what it really deserves, but the simple truth is that Indonesia is more corrupted and bureaucratic than Vietnam and in the end, foreign investing is like water..
Very well said, sir.. And actually, the majority of Indonesian people here is put respect and sympathy to the struggle of Vietnamese people, and strongly supports for the economic progress in Vietnam which has previously been suffered by the prolonged conflict..Dear Indonesian and Vietnamese bros,
Why bother in putting each other down ? I think both Indonesia and Vietnam are developing their manufacturing sector , both are developing economies with positive indicators for sustained growth. By emphasizing who is faster than who is such a short term and near sighted aspect, don't be like that, guys. Focus on long term goals , long term developmental aspirations, and encourage each other as competition is always a plus in a free and open market system.
So I say: Congratulations to both Indonesia and Vietnam !
Corruption is our biggest problem, thats why we assume that many big corporation in Indonesia need to bribe some one to get any project, even my brother who has won a tender (bidding) need to bribe as well, and as a good Muslim he then give up his entrepreneurship ( even though has already set up a company) and go back again working as an employee. Hard task to do business for a practicing Muslim in Indonesia. If any thing is clean, so business will be played in a fair way, some thing that we are still working on.
All I know is Vietnam make a lot of shoes,witch doesnt involve a long supply chain. And distance from supply chain isn’t that much of a big deal in mass manufacturing
Also by your own logic, “make in India” doesn‘t look very promising,do you even care?
Even Indonesian manufacturing out put is very close India one
To understand more: Fact : Most ASEAN countries (except Indonesia) are export driven economy since their domestic market are not huge, thats why in 2008 all ASEAN economy get hit by the crisis, except Indonesia (and maybe also Philippines ) which was still growing at that time around 4 % until 4,5 %
From World Bank data
Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table
Manufacturing, value added (current US$)
Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of natural resources. The origin of value added is determined by the International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC), revision 3. Data are in current U.S. dollars.
World Bank national accounts data, and OECD National Accounts data files.
Catalog Sources World Development Indicators
Country name 2013
1. China 2,941,337,347,299
2. United States 1,966,495,000,000
3. Japan 1,073,277,493,560
4. Germany 745,240,864,784
5. Korea, Rep. 370,393,593,514
6. Italy 287,482,387,812
7. Brazil 250,149,717,252
8. France 285,590,357,502
9. India 298,892,275,348
10.United Kingdom 231,189,798,427
11.Russian Federation 267,591,226,274
12.Indonesia 205,768,427,070
Mexico 215,689,694,253
Canada 162,080,209,810
Turkey ,169,232,482
Thailand 127,569,680,401
Switzerland 123,855,109,928
Australia 104,170,239,125
Netherlands 93,050,714,496
Sweden 84,367,422,538
Poland 88,003,543,631
Argentina
Belgium
Austria
Malaysia 74,895,426,703
Saudi Arabia 75,536,266,667
Venezuela, RB 50,891,378,335
South Africa
Singapore 52,577,079,837
Puerto Rico
Ireland
Czech Republic
Philippines
Finland
Colombia
Egypt, Arab Rep.
Denmark
Norway
Portugal
United Arab Emirates
Hungary
Nigeria
Chile
Pakistan 31,274,076,599
Ukraine
Vietnam 29,981,829,397
Bangladesh 24,661,461,494
Your brother has a noble spirit...!
The list you just posted clearly shows that their is a massive difference BTW our manufacturing output(in India's favor)
I agree if the Indonesia's licensing issues is more bureaucratic than Vietnam, that's why this bureaucratic obstacles is been one focus improvement under Jokowi's governance which on earlier this year has issued a one stop service policy to facilitate the entry of foreign investment to Indonesia..
But is Indonesia is more corrupted than Vietnam?? I don't think so. If we are referring to the data CPI-2013: Indonesia's position-114 with 32 points is light better then Vietnam's - 116 with 31 points., But then, is whether I have the right's to do say that Vietnam is more corrupt then Indonesia?? Nope !! Because I assume that Indonesia and Vietnam have the same magnitude problems of corruptions, and they are equally on struggling to improve their systems and form a clean governance to prevent more massive corruptions in both countries..
So as a fellow developing countries, let us compete with positive way without having to be accompanied by disfigure and open the ugliness of each others..
Trully as personally, I'm also happy with the revival of the economic of Vietnam, hopefully this can be a good momentum to make Vietnamese society more prosperous in the future..
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Hello my friend long time no see.
Yeah Viet Nam is rotten currupt to the core. !
I'm actually having high expectation that joining the TPP will change things around.
Hopefully the TPP will IMPOSE significant structural changes that can help improve these redtape bureaucratic nonsense and become more transparent. Haters keep saying TPP will allow foreign MNC to exploit VN but the truth is, VN was already going down hill even without any foreign exploitation due to redtape and corruptions. The Viet military would be in much better shape if it weren't for these hideous economic mismanagement!!!
I'm actually having high expectation that joining the TPP will change things around.
Yeah, its no big deal. And let's hope that both countries were able to resolve those problems in order to achieve better economic growth..My friend, what I said was not about competition or to put anybody down. I wrote based on what I think its true. Both countries are very corrupted, that's the simple truth, but when it comes to how it affects foreign investment, I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more of a problem in that area. Anyway, no big deal, its a big enough of a problem for both countries. Lets hope Jokowi can improve that.