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We think that this is a bad idea.”

A senior State Department official told reporters yesterday that the Turkish attacks on northeastern Syria targeting Kurdish fighters who have been America’s best partners in defeating ISIS in the country would help no one—not even Turkey. “This will not increase their security, our security, or the security of anybody else in the region.”

Donald Trump, after a call with the Turkish president on Sunday, promptly moved U.S. troops out of the area, clear of the coming bombardment. Otherwise they risked death at the hands of a NATO ally.

But what kind of ally forces Americans to flee from their friend’s American-made F-16s? For that matter, on America’s part, what kind of ally would arm and support a group Turkey considers a band of terrorists? How did the United States and Turkey end up tied together in NATO, when both their values and interests seem so far apart?

“We wanted Turkey in NATO because of the Cold War,” Steven A. Cook, a Turkey expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, told me. Back in 1952, with the alliance just a few years old, it expanded for the first time, welcoming two new members: Greece and Turkey. At the time, President Harry Truman offered membership to both as a way to contain Communist expansion—Greece’s Western-backed government had just defeated Communist forces in a civil war. It helped that Turkey also gave the alliance a foothold close to the Middle East.


Read: The U.S. moves out, and Turkey moves in

This soon became a case of more allies, more problems. When Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 following a Greece-backed military coup, the two allies came into direct conflict; in fact, Greece left NATO over it, before later rejoining. Later, the U.S. flew bombing raids on Iraq from Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base during the 1990–91 Gulf War; in 2003, though, Turkey refused to station U.S. troops on its territory to attack Baghdad. (Other U.S. allies, namely France and Germany, also opposed the 2003 Iraq War, though France was not fully participating in NATO at the time.) As for that whole democratic-values thing, the military stepped in to run the country about every decade or so.

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But by the time anti-government protests swept Arab countries in 2011, Turkey looked like a model of stability and Islamic democracy. In an interview with NATO Review in 2012 marking 60 years of Turkey being in NATO, then–Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz said that in joining the alliance, Turkey had made its direction, and its security, “the same as the West’s.” He went on: “This was not a decision Turkey took only in 1952. This was the consequence of Turkey supporting Western values. Let’s not say Western—universal values, which are democracy, human rights, and core values of human rights based on the rule of law.” Turkey was even negotiating for membership in the European Union.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/turkey-and-nato-troubled-relationship/599890/
 
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the emotions of hate, love and ego can drive a person /nation to take many irrational steps. most of the jews in madina knew that the Prophet has arrived about whom they were foretold but they couldnt accept him as he was not from bani israel and their ego and hate kept them away from truth. dont know much about turkish history but i think turkish love for the west could have been because of the anti ottoman empire steps taken by the arabs with support of britain. secondly by joining their block a country gets better chances of prosperity. turkey did made progress in many sectors by joining them but they will pay sooner or later .i remember pakistani leaders and so called think tanks used to say after 9/11 that we cant displease more then 30 countries by not supporting them in afghainstan. we preferred the happiness of 30 gods instead of 1 God for economic benefits and look where we are today. 70000 died in WOT, 80000 in earth quake in 2005, historic flood in 2010, worst possible people became rulers,epidemics like dengue,poverty on the rise and today we are begging the whole world for aid and still those 30 gods are not taking our side in the issue of kashmir and still they want us to do more.
 
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So Turkey can attack, invade other countrues like Cyprus, Iraq and Syria and no one can stop them.
 
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Q: Why Is Turkey in NATO Anyway?

A: Why not? If anyone is dissatisfied there, it's their problem.

We have veto power within NATO. Any country that we do not approve cannot be made a member . No one can be made secretary-general that we dont accept. Operation cannot be performed in any country that we do not approve.

We read alliance relations very superficially. Theres no just GOOD or just BAD . There is a much deeper contrast between good and evil than we thought.
 
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We think that this is a bad idea.”

A senior State Department official told reporters yesterday that the Turkish attacks on northeastern Syria targeting Kurdish fighters who have been America’s best partners in defeating ISIS in the country would help no one—not even Turkey. “This will not increase their security, our security, or the security of anybody else in the region.”

Donald Trump, after a call with the Turkish president on Sunday, promptly moved U.S. troops out of the area, clear of the coming bombardment. Otherwise they risked death at the hands of a NATO ally.

But what kind of ally forces Americans to flee from their friend’s American-made F-16s? For that matter, on America’s part, what kind of ally would arm and support a group Turkey considers a band of terrorists? How did the United States and Turkey end up tied together in NATO, when both their values and interests seem so far apart?

“We wanted Turkey in NATO because of the Cold War,” Steven A. Cook, a Turkey expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, told me. Back in 1952, with the alliance just a few years old, it expanded for the first time, welcoming two new members: Greece and Turkey. At the time, President Harry Truman offered membership to both as a way to contain Communist expansion—Greece’s Western-backed government had just defeated Communist forces in a civil war. It helped that Turkey also gave the alliance a foothold close to the Middle East.


Read: The U.S. moves out, and Turkey moves in

This soon became a case of more allies, more problems. When Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 following a Greece-backed military coup, the two allies came into direct conflict; in fact, Greece left NATO over it, before later rejoining. Later, the U.S. flew bombing raids on Iraq from Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base during the 1990–91 Gulf War; in 2003, though, Turkey refused to station U.S. troops on its territory to attack Baghdad. (Other U.S. allies, namely France and Germany, also opposed the 2003 Iraq War, though France was not fully participating in NATO at the time.) As for that whole democratic-values thing, the military stepped in to run the country about every decade or so.

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But by the time anti-government protests swept Arab countries in 2011, Turkey looked like a model of stability and Islamic democracy. In an interview with NATO Review in 2012 marking 60 years of Turkey being in NATO, then–Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz said that in joining the alliance, Turkey had made its direction, and its security, “the same as the West’s.” He went on: “This was not a decision Turkey took only in 1952. This was the consequence of Turkey supporting Western values. Let’s not say Western—universal values, which are democracy, human rights, and core values of human rights based on the rule of law.” Turkey was even negotiating for membership in the European Union.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/turkey-and-nato-troubled-relationship/599890/

NATO disbanding is next big news in the world.
 
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ria-must-be-measured-nato-chief-idUSKBN1WO1YO

"While Turkey has serious security concerns, we expect Turkey to act with restraint." https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_169576.htm

"We expect NATO allies to continue to provide support to Turkey because this is something that was agreed"
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-wants-open-solidarity-from-nato-147387

"Turkey has suffered horrendous terrorist attacks, and it hosts millions of Syrian refugees"
"NATO has been informed by Turkish authorities about their ongoing operation in Northern Syria. I count on Turkey to act with restraint & ensure that the gains we have made in the fight against ISIS are not jeopardised. I will discuss this issue with President Erdoğan Friday"
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...rns-about-syria-nato-secretary-general-147324



Everything is under control. But those who haven't lived in 1974, or those who haven't seen the 90s, seem too excited.

The funny thing is that the Chinese trolls speak here on behalf of NATO and tell us about their wet dreams. :D




 
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Q: Why Is Turkey in NATO Anyway?

A: Why not? If anyone is dissatisfied there, it's their problem.

We have veto power within NATO. Any country that we do not approve cannot be made a member . No one can be made secretary-general that we dont accept. Operation cannot be performed in any country that we do not approve.

We read alliance relations very superficially. Theres no just GOOD or just BAD . There is a much deeper contrast between good and evil than we thought.
A: To bully the world!!
 
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I love Turkey.

I wish Pakistan was more like Turkey
 
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We think that this is a bad idea.”

A senior State Department official told reporters yesterday that the Turkish attacks on northeastern Syria targeting Kurdish fighters who have been America’s best partners in defeating ISIS in the country would help no one—not even Turkey. “This will not increase their security, our security, or the security of anybody else in the region.”

Donald Trump, after a call with the Turkish president on Sunday, promptly moved U.S. troops out of the area, clear of the coming bombardment. Otherwise they risked death at the hands of a NATO ally.

But what kind of ally forces Americans to flee from their friend’s American-made F-16s? For that matter, on America’s part, what kind of ally would arm and support a group Turkey considers a band of terrorists? How did the United States and Turkey end up tied together in NATO, when both their values and interests seem so far apart?

“We wanted Turkey in NATO because of the Cold War,” Steven A. Cook, a Turkey expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, told me. Back in 1952, with the alliance just a few years old, it expanded for the first time, welcoming two new members: Greece and Turkey. At the time, President Harry Truman offered membership to both as a way to contain Communist expansion—Greece’s Western-backed government had just defeated Communist forces in a civil war. It helped that Turkey also gave the alliance a foothold close to the Middle East.


Read: The U.S. moves out, and Turkey moves in

This soon became a case of more allies, more problems. When Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 following a Greece-backed military coup, the two allies came into direct conflict; in fact, Greece left NATO over it, before later rejoining. Later, the U.S. flew bombing raids on Iraq from Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base during the 1990–91 Gulf War; in 2003, though, Turkey refused to station U.S. troops on its territory to attack Baghdad. (Other U.S. allies, namely France and Germany, also opposed the 2003 Iraq War, though France was not fully participating in NATO at the time.) As for that whole democratic-values thing, the military stepped in to run the country about every decade or so.

MORE STORIES
But by the time anti-government protests swept Arab countries in 2011, Turkey looked like a model of stability and Islamic democracy. In an interview with NATO Review in 2012 marking 60 years of Turkey being in NATO, then–Turkish Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz said that in joining the alliance, Turkey had made its direction, and its security, “the same as the West’s.” He went on: “This was not a decision Turkey took only in 1952. This was the consequence of Turkey supporting Western values. Let’s not say Western—universal values, which are democracy, human rights, and core values of human rights based on the rule of law.” Turkey was even negotiating for membership in the European Union.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/turkey-and-nato-troubled-relationship/599890/

Turkey should stay in NATO and reap its fruits.. only haters can feel the burn..
 
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