Why is the US suddenly attacking the TTP now?

[pakdefender]

The past week has seen a rise in American drone attacks against TTP leadership , mainly Hakeemullh Mehsud

The speed with which Hakeemullah has been targetted over the pas week suggests that the Aemricans knew his wherabout and he was constantly being tracked

Question from a Pakistani perspective worth asking is Why NOW they are targetting him ?!

The swiftness with which they tracked him down and fired missiles on him means that they KNEW where he was all along but they never bothered to target him since he was comitting acts of terror in Pakistan most likely with CIA money that was being channeled through Bilawi , the Jordanian that carried out the bombing at the CIA base.

What was the dirty deal between bilawi and the cia , its hard to say but whatever it was he did manage to win the CIA's trust ( probably by getting many of his lower level accompilces killed by providing info to the CIA to gain their trust and also by being a go between the TTP and the CIA!).

We know that Bilawi was driven from across Pakistan by the Afghan base chief so the CIA knew that he had connection with the TTP! ( which operates on the Pakistani side )

Hakeemullh became a target soon after he apeared in the video along side Bilawi and this should be an eye opener for all patriotic Pakistanis to understand the dirty game that is being played with us.

 

[pak-yes]

It's American history they play games and support both sides

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I hope the get him before we do ....

 

[BATMAN]

You are very right.... lot of changes are happening in paralle.
1- Zardari is trying to improve his image as Pakistani patriot rather than indian patriot.
2- TTP sucide attacks had been muted, it means RAW has ceased/reduced intelligence support to TTP operatives.
3- TTP has attcked US personals, first time. where as in past black water mercanaries were working in tendom.
4- Indian official tone and press is talking reconciliation / peace etc. very uncharacteristic of them.
5- In the begining of all ISI started to monitor every visa issued by Pakistan embassy in US. This also marked end to reinforcements of blackwater.

Clearly an over all U turn is in operation from some time.

It could be due to following reasons:
1- Evidence collected by PA army, that TTP being supported from Afghan side could be over whelming.
2- US may have realised that indains used them for their gains. in reality it was indian proxy war from the day 9/11 which US fought in afghanistan, at there own expense....coasting US dearly.
3- TTP failed its core objective, which was to instigate civil war ..... or lets say instigate people of NWFP against army/state. or to instigate inter army difference of opinion or instances of disobidience.
4- US may have realised that after NW operation, TTP would virtualy be vanished or will not be eligible any more to effectively inflict any important casualties on Pak army. Its better to put some share in the end.
Basically, TTP drive failed miserably in the eyes of its creators and bore opposite impact than what originally were envisioned by its creators.

Nowadays, it is also not so simple to continue the supply chain of finance and wepons to TTP. in such senario US had no choice but to turn its guns towards TTP for which US only needed a reason to have some sort of legitimacy of such a change in approach...which is catagorizing TTP as terrorist/enemy of US, which they created by them self by organising an attack on its officials.
Of course Bilawi was an agent working for many outfits.
I believe originally/basically he was Mossad/Jordainian agent and introduced to CIA with obvious links and than at this moment CIA used its direct/indirect links with RAW and embeded him into TTP for a short vedio... ofcourse. other wise he have no history of operating with TTP and neither bunch of simple mob can organise international network of agents and double agents.
AQ and Mullah Omar have clearly rejected any link with TTP and has condemed terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
We have also found vodka and porno films at hideouts of TTP, which is very uncharacteristic of Taliban or AQ. Trucks loaded with Indain and US wepons discovery also point to the alliance, assistance of US sattalite to TTP exclusively is self explanatory.
Rehman Malik was assigned to mislead the nation and he tried his best to clear indian name on issues which question the TTP's intelligence network. e.g. he desperately tried to clear TTP's name from attack on major general Mushtaq Baig, who was running a joint Pakistan-Swiss research work and use to take many doctors along with him.
Clearly indian embassy in Switzerland organised his assisination on fast track basis and this incident alone was shouting at RAW connection with TTP.
RAW has also organised a similar target killing of a sikh separist leader in Austria.
BB's murder by TTP hints Zardari alliance with RAW, TTP and CIA.

Comming back to TTP, as we know was created for respective vested interests of india and west against Pakistan but it was not expected that Pakistan armed forces will crush it so bravely, effectively, fast and there will be trail of evidences haunting them and their under cover agents in Pakistan, they totally ignored the eventual sense of national solidarity emerging in Pakistan.
The big surprise for enemies of Pakistan was that they thought they will make nation afraid but for a Pakistani affraid is the last word we know.

Now big question is what next?
How are they going to plan next to fulfil their evil desires against Pakistan.
I clearly see that they have PPP, ANP, BLA and judiciary in their pockets....so i see some big drama from any of these.
PPP means whole civil govt. and is already busy working towards destroying Pakistan economy, creating hurdels in investment and doing nothing to counter the bad image projected by US.

Other big question is how are they going to dissolve TTP or how TTP is going to react! now if B.Mehsud feel he is betrayed than he should have handed him in to Pak army as a witness but it seems he trust his financers or have no choice.... i believe he is going to ditch is organisation and will be either lifted by forces in afghanistan or will be murdered to have his mouth shut.
It is good for Pakistan in either way but it would be much better for the whole world, if B.Mehsud hand him in alive.

Lets wait and see......with fingers crossed.

 

[Stumper]

You are very right.... lot of changes are happening in paralle.
1- Zardari is trying to improve his image as Pakistani patriot rather than indian patriot.
2- TTP sucide attacks had been muted, it means RAW has ceased/reduced intelligence support to TTP operatives.
3- TTP has attcked US personals, first time. where as in past black water mercanaries were working in tendom.
4- Indian official tone and press is talking reconciliation / peace etc. very uncharacteristic of them.
5- In the begining of all ISI started to monitor every visa issued by Pakistan embassy in US. This also marked end to reinforcements of blackwater.

Clearly an over all U turn is in operation from some time.

It could be due to following reasons:
1- Evidence collected by PA army, that TTP being supported from Afghan side could be over whelming.
2- US may have realised that indains used them for their gains. in reality it was indian proxy war from the day 9/11 which US fought in afghanistan, at there own expense....coasting US dearly.
3- TTP failed its core objective, which was to instigate civil war ..... or lets say instigate people of NWFP against army/state. or to instigate inter army difference of opinion or instances of disobidience.
4- US may have realised that after NW operation, TTP would virtualy be vanished or will not be eligible any more to effectively inflict any important casualties on Pak army. Its better to put some share in the end.
Basically, TTP drive failed miserably in the eyes of its creators and bore opposite impact than what originally were envisioned by its creators.

Nowadays, it is also not so simple to continue the supply chain of finance and wepons to TTP. in such senario US had no choice but to turn its guns towards TTP for which US only needed a reason to have some sort of legitimacy of such a change in approach...which is catagorizing TTP as terrorist/enemy of US, which they created by them self by organising an attack on its officials.
Of course Bilawi was an agent working for many outfits.
I believe originally/basically he was Mossad/Jordainian agent and introduced to CIA with obvious links and than at this moment CIA used its direct/indirect links with RAW and embeded him into TTP for a short vedio... ofcourse. other wise he have no history of operating with TTP and neither bunch of simple mob can organise international network of agents and double agents.
AQ and Mullah Omar have clearly rejected any link with TTP and has condemed terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
We have also found vodka and porno films at hideouts of TTP, which is very uncharacteristic of Taliban or AQ. Trucks loaded with Indain and US wepons discovery also point to the alliance, assistance of US sattalite to TTP exclusively is self explanatory.
Rehman Malik was assigned to mislead the nation and he tried his best to clear indian name on issues which question the TTP's intelligence network. e.g. he desperately tried to clear TTP's name from attack on major general Mushtaq Baig, who was running a joint Pakistan-Swiss research work and use to take many doctors along with him.
Clearly indian embassy in Switzerland organised his assisination on fast track basis and this incident alone was shouting at RAW connection with TTP.
RAW has also organised a similar target killing of a sikh separist leader in Austria.
BB's murder by TTP hints Zardari alliance with RAW, TTP and CIA.

Comming back to TTP, as we know was created for respective vested interests of india and west against Pakistan but it was not expected that Pakistan armed forces will crush it so bravely, effectively, fast and there will be trail of evidences haunting them and their under cover agents in Pakistan, they totally ignored the eventual sense of national solidarity emerging in Pakistan.
The big surprise for enemies of Pakistan was that they thought they will make nation afraid but for a Pakistani affraid is the last word we know.

Now big question is what next?
How are they going to plan next to fulfil their evil desires against Pakistan.
I clearly see that they have PPP, ANP, BLA and judiciary in their pockets....so i see some big drama from any of these.
PPP means whole civil govt. and is already busy working towards destroying Pakistan economy, creating hurdels in investment and doing nothing to counter the bad image projected by US.

Other big question is how are they going to dissolve TTP or how TTP is going to react! now if B.Mehsud feel he is betrayed than he should have handed him in to Pak army as a witness but it seems he trust his financers or have no choice.... i believe he is going to ditch is organisation and will be either lifted by forces in afghanistan or will be murdered to have his mouth shut.
It is good for Pakistan in either way but it would be much better for the whole world, if B.Mehsud hand him in alive.

Lets wait and see......with fingers crossed.

Batman : Usually I find jingoist rants annoyingly cliché. Sometimes -- Funny. Never have I seen one and thought : “Too long, can't read.” Until now.

Anyway, nice to see you taking a very objective stock of what ails your country. Equally heartening to hear that your country is suffering not for any of its own ills but due to this grand conspiracy initiated against it (Which you have so beautifully clarified in detail that i almost thought you were present during the planning .... and which im sure no one would have realized had you not pointed it out).

I pray, one day all this countries (USA, Israel, India, etc) and world would realize the folly and leave you alone. Maybe than you will realize your Full & Hidden potential and resume your journey on the growth trajectory.

 

[idea123]

Why of lately the Americans have tuned the gun on the TTP ?!
Simply because PA is incapable to counter them. With US help, PA may succeed.

 

[Patriot]

^ If that was the case, you would not beg us after 26/11 to put JUD in jail.You would do it yourself but oops looks like Indian Army cannot counter Pakistan Army and hence indians went to West begging them to punish Pakistan.

 

[Nemesis]

It is kind of curious that the attack on the head of the TTP happens within days of the suicide attack against the C.I.A. Or it could be a question of higher priority given to him. Or a coincidence...

 

[qsaark]

Same old Carrot and Stick game. They want PA to go into North Waziristan, and later in Quetta. This is nothing but a little bribe (or carrot) being offered to PA in order to prepare them for a bigger and bloodier offense against so-called Taliban in the two mentioned areas. If this strategy (of carrot) wont work, than we will witness a new and deadlier wave of bombings throughout Pakistan (the Stick) that might convince the PA to do what Americans want them to do. Those who find it difficult to understand might want to read what Mr. Gate said:

"The more they get attacked internally, just like this terrible attack in Rawalpindi at the mosque, the more open they may be to additional help from us. But we are prepared to expand that relationship at any pace that they are prepared to accept,".

Source: http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/asia/08dec09-pakistan-us-gates-78754532.html

 

[Aeri-Eye]

As said above, the yanks now want to finish TTP of asap. Once it's done they will ask PA to go to North Waziristan & Quetta and take on Haqqani Network.

Or i think the PA might have signed a deal with the yanks. "You help us finish off TTP & once they are eliminated, we will go after Haqqani Network". I think the yanks agreed to it but i doubt PA will go to N Waziristan, they would probably tell the yanks to F off once their work is done

 

[Awesome]

My personal guess is they were cajoling some elements of them to infiltrate them and perhaps cause some damage to the Afghan Taliban. Somewhere along the line the proverbial crap hit the fan and relations that the CIA had made with the TTP (as evidenced by them trying to infiltrate TTP through Balawi) were no longer viable.

Many side motivators are not hard to see if the above is true:

1) A lot of witnesses within the TTP who have worked with CIA, been on CIA bases and caried out missions alongside the CIA.
2) CIA has talked a lot about the need to gain the trust of these militants who have to infiltrate terrorist organizations like TTP. It is possible that they allowed a bombing or two within Pakistan to show that an x operative is not really CIA, but a trustable terrorist.

The above is only a theory, perhaps even be labelled as yet another conspiracy theory, but my thought process emerges from the fact that for the past few decades the American trend has always been Help A, then help B attack A, then help C attack B. "Help Iran, help Iraq attack Iran, attack Iraq".

History has it, that this is business as usual for the Americans. If they are not doing this then it is something highly unusual. So we should assume things to be usual?

 

[Hulk]

Same old Carrot and Stick game. They want PA to go into North Waziristan, and later in Quetta. This is nothing but a little bribe (or carrot) being offered to PA in order to prepare them for a bigger and bloodier offense against so-called Taliban in the two mentioned areas. If this strategy (of carrot) wont work, than we will witness a new and deadlier wave of bombings throughout Pakistan (the Stick) that might convince the PA to do what Americans want them to do. Those who find it difficult to understand might want to read what Mr. Gate said:

"The more they get attacked internally, just like this terrible attack in Rawalpindi at the mosque, the more open they may be to additional help from us. But we are prepared to expand that relationship at any pace that they are prepared to accept,".

Source: US Ready to Expand Military Help for Pakistan | Asia | English

Quick question, as I understand ISI provides the intelligence for these attacks and as per your post US is try to push PA. So why is ISI giving them intelligence?

Second question.
Last 2 attacks targeted TTP chief, do you mean to say they should not attack him.

 

[qsaark]

Quick question, as I understand ISI provides the intelligence for these attacks and as per your post US is try to push PA. So why is ISI giving them intelligence?

I don’t know if ISI has any assets among the TTP. If I go with what ex-PA officers and ex-ISI officers are saying, it appears that ISI’s assets are largely or perhaps entirely replaced by the CIA’s in that region. It is part of the reason why there has never been any validation of who was killed in the drone attacks, whether they were really AQ/Taliban operatives or just the bystander tribal folks. There is simply no independent confirmation of anything, and whatever information (right or wrong) is released by the Pentagon is forwarded by the media.

Second question.
Last 2 attacks targeted TTP chief, do you mean to say they should not attack him.

From where did you draw this meaning from my post? All I said was it is (attacking TTP) being done to convince the PA that the US is also protecting the interest(s) of Pakistan in the so-called war on terror, and to cajole the PA to expand its operation in N-Waziristan and elsewhere.

 

[Rank]

Because ISrealy plan gonna flop if they NATO forces America not able to move this war completely into Pakistan Isreally objective (last 7 years war totally lost). Thats simply Isreally lobby agenda game to put pressure more pressure on pakistan try to enter in Pakistan.

US pressure Pakistan Miltiary forces to go for Heavy boom boom operation (Isrealy/American) thought Pakistan military lose war in SWAT and Wazirstan but unforuntly they plan totally messup when Pakistan Military forces SUCCESSFULLY finish both operation and move forward with full of SUCCESS now American/Isrealy game plan about "Terrorist wil capture Pakistani nuke" (MOST FUNNY actually **** STATEMENT ever came from US all the time) this game plan now finally totally LOST and objective goal achievement "TO disntegr Pakistani Nukes" unforutnly lost. Now thats the only way to strike inside Pakistan more and more to show world that there are soo much problem related terrorism and terrorist inside pakistan near PAK-AFGHAN border and same old shits lol continue...

Zionist always forgot that if they will make any plan.... God also make a plan!!!


"idar kudha walay bastay hain"

 

[S-2]

We aren't "suddenly attacking the TTP now".

We killed Nek Mohammad in June, 2004 and started cleaning up your mess then. Name familiar? It should be.

You idiots had best learn a bit more about your own damned war.

We've been at it for some considerable time. Funny what you'll conveniently forget to beat the drums of dissemblance...

Thanks.