Why is South Asia so tense?

[bigmoneymaker]

We have no big brother mentality. There is no point in showing big brother mentality towards the untrustworthy neighbors around us. China and Pakistan must try to resolve our border problems in a constructive manner not a manner in which today talk tomorrow war, then south asia will once again become a safe heaven.

I always dreamed about a roadway, railway through China-India-Pakistan. That dream won't realize in my life time. May be my future generations will get that chance to see it.

it is the indian officials that almost everyday shouts most loudly to provoke the others by issuing statement about war affairs....it will be a conducive environment for the peaceful development of continent/safer heaven if indian gov doesnt always do something to disgust/tension up the peaceful situation to give impression that india relies on military power not policy of coexistence to survive.......did you ever hear that chinese or pakistani gov/officials threatening to use violence on india??? most of them are public hatred opinions but the indian medias interpret them as official intentions of china and pak to misguide and fool your people to avert your people grudges on poverty....how incerdible india is and its free medias at screaming for wars and creating your enemy of enmity for indian public........

 

[naved_kam]

it is the indian officials that almost everyday shouts most loudly to provoke the others by issuing statement about war affairs....it will be a conducive environment for the peaceful development of continent/safer heaven if indian gov doesnt always do something to disgust/tension up the peaceful situation to give impression that india relies on military power not policy of coexistence to survive.......did you ever hear that chinese or pakistani gov/officials threatening to use violence on india??? most of them are public hatred opinions but the indian medias interpret them as official intentions of china and pak to misguide and fool your people to avert your people grudges on poverty....how incerdible india is and its free medias at screaming for wars and creating your enemy of enmity for indian public........

my dear friend, similar statements keep coming our from Chinese security establishment / policy groups on a regular basis. So does from Pakistan. I would not like to refer to these statements as that will take our discussionn on a different tangent than where it should be. So let us understand that when it comes to the security of our countries, we should expect each other to protect it at any cost. What worth is a nation who does not care for its security and honor. So there are a few ways you can read these words. Mine would be that our neighbour has a threat perception and they are building a capability to counter those threat perceptions. You see the good thing is that this is why the defence forces of a country are an establishment and not the government. Their job is to defend their country so they prepare for it. Isn't that an acceptable thing. Let us not look at the peripherals. These are not important till we make them important. What we can choose to make important in South Asia is economic growth and mutually beneficially flow of goods and services that willl greatly benefit our people.

 

[Dawkins]

daym .. no post on poor India, hungry India yet

i mean, India's clearly the devil of South Asia as per the thread

 

[Red Dwarf]

it is the indian officials that almost everyday shouts most loudly to provoke the others by issuing statement about war affairs....it will be a conducive environment for the peaceful development of continent/safer heaven if indian gov doesnt always do something to disgust/tension up the peaceful situation to give impression that india relies on military power not policy of coexistence to survive.......did you ever hear that chinese or pakistani gov/officials threatening to use violence on india??? most of them are public hatred opinions but the indian medias interpret them as official intentions of china and pak to misguide and fool your people to avert your people grudges on poverty....how incerdible india is and its free medias at screaming for wars and creating your enemy of enmity for indian public........

I know one thing for sure now. Your knowledge on India and the rest of the world is depends on what others writing in this forum. Your knowledge is limited and is becoming scarce day by day by an anti-India theme originating from this forum...

 

[waraich66]

Are you suggesting a particular religion is the source of envy of imperial nations? I dare to disagree.
It is more of our short-sightedness and so-called ego.

A war is continued between Capitalisim and Islamic fundamentalism , south asia is main battle ground .

 

[ek_indian]

A war is continued between Capitalisim and Islamic fundamentalism , south asia is main battle ground .

We need to look at out defects rather avoiding it. There is strong reason to suggest that we, the south asians as whole, are collectively responsible upto some extent.

Neither capitalism nor Islamic fundamentalism (I do not mean to defame any religion. Just responding to post) was "originated" from south asia. Yet it is the battle grould and we are falling for it. We should do some introspect as well. It is we, who are paing the price for these. The reason is simple.

(1) We live in a kind of false-pride land. Nationalism is good but ultra nationalism is not. Just to make things lighter, I would like to recall one line from movie Jodha-Akbar, "vafadari ka jajba kabhi kabhi insan ko gustaakh bana deta hai".

(2) There were some short sighted leaders/people who made no-so-visionary policy. For India, it did some mistakes too.

 

[samv]

So you want our farmers who produce the same products sit and watch this. India Govt is elected by and for the interest Indians. Not for the interest of our neighbors.

I think if India cannot keep an agreement, it should not make it in the first place. The FTA with Sri Lanka was one of India's first but unfortunately it is India that has thrown roadblocks in its pathway. Apparently a giant nation of more than one billion consumers and on the way to becoming an economic superpower, is threatened by a small island nation of around twenty million. Does that make any sense to you? The same thing is likely to happen if the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement is signed between the countries. Sri Lanka has provided visa on arrival to all citizens of SAARC countries for over a decade. Has India reciprocated? Nope.

As the biggest economy in the region with the largest population it is India that should be at the forefront of liberalisation and increasing country to country contacts. Sticking to agreements it has signed would be a first step. The second would be to stop treating neighbours that haven't done India any harm with paranoid suspicion.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Why is South Asia so tense?
By Shahid R. Siddiqi
Sunday, 03 Jan, 2010

For the past 63 years, South Asia has remained in a state of The eight countries that make up this geopolitically sensitive region do not share a friendly and harmonious relationship with each other.

I guess that India will soon be blamed for the antagonistic relations between Burma and Bangladesh as well. Also the Chinese civil unrest problems will be lapped onto India. We already are being accused of funding the TTP which was founded by the former Pakistani establishment. Now we are being blamed for Bangladeshi youngsters getting high on cough mixture. Is there anything I left out?

This is despite their efforts to come on a single platform of Saarc to develop a major economic and political bloc. All smaller countries were enthusiastic about this model of cooperation to succeed in gaining progress and getting rid of pervasive poverty. But in the end it just collapsed. Isn't India just an observor nation in Saarc?

All these countries have a closely interwoven history and common ethnic, linguistic, cultural and religious heritage but still they failed. It happened because all the contiguous states on India’s periphery are fearful of its hegemonic designs and its policy to dominate and dictate.
So if we say that we want to be left alone does that make it our hegemonic design of wanting to dominate and dictate" ?

In case of India and Pakistan, given the historical divide between Hindus and Muslims, it is understandable that a certain amount of acrimony and distrust would impact their relationship. Instead of accepting Pakistan’s emergence in 1947 as a reality and resolving bilateral disputes in a spirit of understanding, India adopted a belligerent course. The resulting discord and three wars have plagued their relationship to this day, both countries diverting huge and precious financial resources to defence and development of nuclear weapons.

Nope it has nothing to do with "Muslim - Hindu" but I am glad that the writer sets out his bias on that issue at the outset. It has everything to do with land and resources though. The author needs to re evaluate his political science knowledge and refrain from adding his bigoted religious views into issue of politics. On that note were the "3 wars" Muslim-Hindu wars" ? Indians certainly don't view in that light. I wonder what my Pakistani kin think ?

Even if Indo-Pakistan relationship is set aside for a moment as one of peculiar nature and even if Pakistan is presumed to be responsible for all the wicked behaviour, the question arises why do other countries of the region find it so difficult to forge a closer relationship with India? Why is it that India has failed to evoke trust and confidence among its neighbours to make any worthwhile collaboration impossible, including Saarc? Isn’t it time for hostilities to give way to a congenial environment among South Asian neighbours too?

Yup it is time for hostilities to give way to a congenial environment. This cannot be done by way of armed bandits entering Indian territory and certain of India's neighbours claiming land which belongs to India. Kashmir cannot be resolved overnight but many Indian PMs have been magnaminous enough to say that "Kashmir issue must be resolved

The fact is that for regional alliances, political or economic, to succeed it is imperative for all stakeholders to treat each other as equals, irrespective of their size or strength. This comes with respecting each other’s sovereignty, willingness to set aside political differences and showing a degree of flexibility to promote a common cause. In case of South Asia, this has not happened. India has disputes with almost every neighbour, which has strained their relationships for years at end.
Disputes with certain neighbors. Other disputes have been resolved or are pending resolution. Ask Sheikh Hassina and Sri Lanka. Size and strength doesn't matter to India. Principle does. And once again our principle is to leave us alone

In Sri Lanka, India overtly and covertly supported the insurgency against the state by LTTE, a nationalist Tamil group in the northern Jaffna region of this small island country, which kept it politically and economically destabilised for decades. In the end, India paid a price for interference when its prime minister, Rajiv Gandhi, was assassinated by a Tamil activist for having betrayed the movement.

Rajiv paid with his life an admitted mistake of the Indian government. At lease we are able to say "yes we funded these people but we realise that they are killing civilians and that is wrong. Therefore we will stop funding them and in fact try and help you to get rid of them. We did not go on a policy of "good LTTE" and "bad LTTE"

With Bangladesh it is locked in an unresolved dispute over Farakka barrage that deprives Bangladesh of its water share. Despite the gratitude Bangladesh owes to India for having militarily dismembered Pakistan in 1971 to midwife its birth, relations between the two have often sunk to the rock bottom on a host of issues, including border dispute.

The issues will be resolved unless we get another Bangladeshi government which believes that it owes its allegiance to the Muslim Ummah by supporting Islamic terrorists with designs against India and not to peace with its neighbor

The tiny mountain state of Nepal has complained of persistent Indian dictation and interference in its internal affairs. That India employs economic blockades and manipulates transit facilities to this poor landlocked country for arm twisting is no secret

Again, make little screams of how you hate our country and don't expect us to send you flowers

Although not a part of South Asia, China’s relations with India for decades have remained frosty, at best. They went to war in 1962 over a border dispute. Competing for regional leadership, it does not hesitate to antagonise China by hoisting Dalai Lama off and on to keep the issue of Tibet alive. Lately, having aligned itself with America to contain China, India is bargaining for a tense Sino-Indian relationship in the years to come.

India will not kow tow to China. India has its borders and faced a long period of colonial dominance before it broke off those shackles. Pakistanis will understand when we say that nobody will take an inch of our land since our forefathers fought for every inch with their blood and their souls


With Pakistan, India maintains the worst of relations mainly because of Pakistan’s political and military standing and its ability to reject Indian domination. Outstanding disputes including Kashmir, water distribution, dams that India constructs in violation Indus Water Treaty and border issues have remained unresolved.

Kashmir is too lengthy a topic to discuss here. Bottom line is that Kashmir will not be freed by a few rag tag brainwashed hoodlums toting a gun. Kashmir must be discussed between India and Pakistan since only those 2 nations will have an impact on its future. Kashmir cannot be discussed until Pakistan pulls back its sponsored terrorism. The IWT was taken to an international court which decided in India's favour. None of the judges were Indian or Israeli

By joining the American bandwagon in Afghanistan and positioning its troops in the name of infrastructure development, India created enough concerns for Pakistan. But by its collusion with CIA and Mossad to take out Pakistan’s nuclear assets through subversion in Fata, the NWFP and other areas using the militants of Tehrik-i-Taliban, India is slamming shut the door on the peace process that Pakistan has been persistently trying to keep open ever since 1947. With a history of constant endeavours to balkanise Pakistan, Indian military build up in Afghanistan is seen by Pakistan’s military as an effort to put it in a nutcracker.

India's foreign policy cannot be dictated by Pakistan's concerns and neither can Pakistan's by India's concerns. If that was the situation then China would not be in Pakistan and in fact Pakistan would not be fighting a civil war. Unless Pakistan has evidence of India destabilising Pakistan via Afghanistan then Pakistan should with respect put up or shut up

That growing Indian influence in Afghanistan is a destabilising factor in the region, is acknowledged even by Gen McChrystal in his recent review of the war in Afghanistan. The make and types of sophisticated weapons, communications equipment and satellite pictures of troop movements recovered from the militants provide undeniable evidence about Indian involvement.

Wow gutter journalism when you attribute a statement to a person implicitly by following up your own hypothesis with something he did not say in one line. All Mac did say was that "India's presence in Afghanistan is irking the Pakistanis and making it harder for him to work with the Pakistanis.

Mr. Ehsanullah Aryanzai, advisor to the Afghan regime has said that India is using Afghan soil to conduct anti-Pakistan activities. The executive editor of ‘News Indian Express’ has acknowledged the evidence of Indian activities in Balochistan in the issue of July 31, And evidence was recently handed over by Pakistani prime minister to his Indian counterpart.

Mr Aryanzai should advise his President to boot out India in that case. The executive editor should state what the "activities" are and if they are illegal then the Pakistani government should demand that he be charged for formenting strife in its territory since he seems to have confessed to his involvement in strife in Balochistan. No other Indian has made that admission save for this executive editor. The PM of Paksitan just "handed over" evidence of Indian involvement to his Indian counterpart?? Our PM seems to have shelved that "evidence"

The Indian psyche that breeds arrogance and expansionism is clear from the words of Pundit Nehru, India’s first prime minister, who said ‘India must dominate or perish’. Perish it will not. So dominate it must. To Hindu extremists, all others on this land are aliens who do not belong there and this includes Muslims and Christians. This justifies the commonly witnessed ethnic cleansing of non-Hindus and leads to the ultimate dream of the creation of Vrihata Bharat — a Greater India.

Damn. We have two "aliens" leading this Hindutva dream of a Vrihata Bharat currently. Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh. I wonder whether they are Pakistani or Chinese agents sent in to derail our strategem of a Vrihata Bharat

To ensure that this fatherland is reunited under Hindu rule, India pursues designs of expanding its boundaries to eventually include Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Burma, Nepal, and Bhutan and create the huge Indian empire. Why would any Indian Hindu, let alone Indian national want to incorporate the problems of Pakistan into India. It is bad enough that you get pulled over at international airports just because some westerner does not know the difference between Indian and Pakistani. Now honestly, why would we want so many Muslim extremists incorporated into India? Please God, keep Pakistan safe and guard her independence and sovereignity till death do us part. Those other nations could be chewed up by India overnight if India had any designs on them. But then again, why would India want to inherit problems? Not like any of them are sinking in oil or have a flourishing economy bouyed by civilians who believe that they are Indians. Until then, the Indian army stays in India unless invited over there

It would be very naive not to see the direction towards which India is headed. Far from becoming the sole ruler of the entire Indian Ocean, India is destabilising South Asia and working its way towards its own disintegration. This is not only because it is surrounding itself with angry and insecure neighbours, but also due to its troubles at home.
Only naivety I see is in this article. Writer should introspect rather than extrospect. All we hear is blah blah blah about India's destabalising its neighbors. Whilst India provides tons of proof to its neighbors of nefarious activities within their borders, they are yet to provide any proof or link on India's side. Except for cough mixture and lost court cases that is

shahidrsiddiqi@gmail.com

Shahid. Dr Joesph Goebbels of the Nazi Paty once said that if you repeat something often enough, those listening to you will eventually believe it no matter how much of rubbish it contains. Journalism is not propaganda unless you work for a state institution.

 

[waraich66]

We need to look at out defects rather avoiding it. There is strong reason to suggest that we, the south asians as whole, are collectively responsible upto some extent.

Neither capitalism nor Islamic fundamentalism (I do not mean to defame any religion. Just responding to post) was "originated" from south asia. Yet it is the battle grould and we are falling for it. We should do some introspect as well. It is we, who are paing the price for these. The reason is simple.

(1) We live in a kind of false-pride land. Nationalism is good but ultra nationalism is not. Just to make things lighter, I would like to recall one line from movie Jodha-Akbar, "vafadari ka jajba kabhi kabhi insan ko gustaakh bana deta hai".

(2) There were some short sighted leaders/people who made no-so-visionary policy. For India, it did some mistakes too.

We have to study more about old civilizations (Egyptians,Chinies,Indian) and their cause of distruction .

In last 1000 Islamic civilization is struggling for their revival and in 21century start challenging western civilization again which was in dominance from more then two handred years .

Basically it is war of servival and maintain identity .


Islamic civilization has few basic fundamentals which dont allow compromise at any cost , their is need to develop understanding between islamic social system and western capitalist system but rift shall continue just like American and Russian cold war.

 

[ek_indian]

We have to study more about old civilizations (Egyptians,Chinies,Indian) and their cause of distruction .

In last 1000 Islamic civilization is struggling for their revival and in 21century start challenging western civilization again which was in dominance from more then two handred years .

Basically it is war of servival and maintain identity .


Islamic civilization has few basic fundamentals which dont allow compromise at any cost , their is need to develop understanding between islamic social system and western capitalist system but rift shall continue just like American and Russian cold war.

However it would be offtopic but all these civilizations need to change a bit according to the time. One rule from 1000 years ago may not necessarily applicable to today's world.

Though I agree what you are saying yet this is very general in nature. This phenomenon happened with every civilizations or regions. The main question is "why we are so behind"?

I still stick to my primary reason i.e. false sense of patriotism. Sometimes it is against national interest in a long term.

I have one example. After independence, India was favoured towards socialism. We got a great ally in form of Russia as they helped us a lot in our testing times. But this vision had some lackings as well. At that time people were too pro-Russia and reluctant towards west (for obvious reasons). As we were not so friendly with western nations, we could not benefit much from them be it military, scientific or economic. India was financially in deep trouble before it revived its policies in 90s. We realised very late and now India is more matured and balanced. It is benefitting from all sides be it east, west, north or south.

Hope I made myself clear.

 

[bigmoneymaker]

I know one thing for sure now. Your knowledge on India and the rest of the world is depends on what others writing in this forum. Your knowledge is limited and is becoming scarce day by day by an anti-India theme originating from this forum...

oh, peole in smog try to insult the people watching clearly outside the smog.....but very sorry that the impression you give the outsiders/world with sanity by yourselves is very pathetic.....i would like to share my view with you frog at the bottom of the well:
from the east asia side, i can see the chinese is trying to make up your image by constantly saying that we and india are good neighbours since long time ago and shows the friendly side of india in history of chinese view....but sadly you know what truly happens now in reality........tell me now who is still hyping for the 1962 loss and not to reconsider what makes your country strong instead of keeping the enemy in the past now the enemy....see usa and china did fight a major war rather than conflict but now what china does?? still antagonizing usa and make usa arch rival?? think about your diplomacy with your head...: who put the whole continent at stake of great tension??? isnt it your bluffing official and free media collaborate together to create this tension every time and now????

from the south east asia side, i take singapore and malaysia for the example, the public view of these two ASEAN leading entity (rest of the countries their people still havent been enlightened by the lack of education and world perspectives, so their main focus is on domestic affairs) :
singapore and malaysian think tank and gov wont criticize the bad points of the bulky india (because it is hegemonic and gigantic and prone to eliminate those who bad mouthing it, everyone bad mouthing china but gets no hurt.....so all focus goes to china to criticize/slander her blemishes instead of seeing whole success story.....)but the people know what is going on when the comparison comes to india and china....and some idiotic bananas
will still think that china is a communist monster but no one will give them a damn....poor children being brainwashed by the demagogic yet bias westrn media not to see the true future......<and i wonder you indian upper caste elites also being overflattered by westrn media to make your upper elite groups become sweetly headed and directionless to take effective reforms?????>

The west:
as all of us know now they have been standing on the top of the food chain....any intellectual property(rights to speak and think) produced by them are labelled as 'merely available in the western civilization' product and everyone has to follow their lead or they will hit you with a big stick....heed(tech transfer and econ aid) or hit(war and sanctions).....right now with the need to contain china which represents the only hope for the rise of the oriental society, india absorbs the 'mixture of shxts and holy intellectuals' west is willing to give, inevitably also including the western hype and crap....those traces of hype has been deeply implanted in the indian upper elite groups....now we can see in all kinda indian propaganda the legacy of imperialistic mind: divide and rule< disputes everywhere instead of cooperation and coexstence of diffrent races and civilizations seen in indian current situation, the west has now achieved their divide and rule purpose in the south asia subcontinent even during post colonial era , thanks to your upper caste elite groups that whole heartedly accepted the western hegemonic baptism, following their way without knowing the uniqueness of modern oriental way of doing/solving things....>

a big shame and pity that the other part of the world are too weak to voice out their own demands and opinions...like africa, pro usa middle east and usa backyard latin america.........they at least can tell which country in asia is more enthusiastic in war-hyping than the rest anyway........

I BET THAT MY WORLD PERSPECTIVE IS MUCH MORE HOLISTIC THAN YOU !!!!!! AS I CAN ABSORB AND LEARN THE THINGS FROM BOTH SOCIETIES OF EAST AND WEST TO PREVENT TOO RIDICULOUS IGNORANCE....I BET YOUR CAN ONLY GET YOUR RUMORED-LIKE SOURCE FROM INDIAN AND AMERICAN/WEST PROPAGANDA, AS YOU ONLY KNOW ENGLISH AND YOUR MOTHER TONGUE/DIALECTS, AM I RIGHT???

i think this will be my last days in this forum since my trisemester will start soon....enjoy your south asia forums also...your analytical skills on current affairs will sooner or later truly be dragged down with these war-hyping south asian forums....nice staying in the incredible subcontinent where we outsiders cant/unable comment anything due to our retardedness on the issues happening in holy yet incredible india.........

 

[ek_indian]

oh, peole in smog try to insult the people watching clearly outside the smog.....but very sorry that the impression you give the outsiders/world with sanity by yourselves is very pathetic.....i would like to share my view with you frog at the bottom of the well:
from the east asia side, i can see the chinese is trying to make up your image by constantly saying that we and india are good neighbours since long time ago and shows the friendly side of india in history of chinese view....but sadly you know what truly happens now in reality........tell me now who is still hyping for the 1962 loss and not to reconsider what makes your country strong instead of keeping the enemy in the past now the enemy....see usa and china did fight a major war rather than conflict but now what china does?? still antagonizing usa and make usa arch rival?? think about your diplomacy with your head...: who put the whole continent at stake of great tension??? isnt it your bluffing official and free media collaborate together to create this tension every time and now????

from the south east asia side, i take singapore and malaysia for the example, the public view of these two ASEAN leading entity (rest of the countries their people still havent been enlightened by the lack of education and world perspectives, so their main focus is on domestic affairs) :
singapore and malaysian think tank and gov wont criticize the bad points of the bulky india (because it is hegemonic and gigantic and prone to eliminate those who bad mouthing it, everyone bad mouthing china but gets no hurt.....so all focus goes to china to criticize/slander her blemishes instead of seeing whole success story.....)but the people know what is going on when the comparison comes to india and china....and some idiotic bananas
will still think that china is a communist monster but no one will give them a damn....poor children being brainwashed by the demagogic yet bias westrn media not to see the true future......<and i wonder you indian upper caste elites also being overflattered by westrn media to make your upper elite groups become sweetly headed and directionless to take effective reforms?????>

The west:
as all of us know now they have been standing on the top of the food chain....any intellectual property(rights to speak and think) produced by them are labelled as 'merely available in the western civilization' product and everyone has to follow their lead or they will hit you with a big stick....heed(tech transfer and econ aid) or hit(war and sanctions).....right now with the need to contain china which represents the only hope for the rise of the oriental society, india absorbs the 'mixture of shxts and holy intellectuals' west is willing to give, inevitably also including the western hype and crap....those traces of hype has been deeply implanted in the indian upper elite groups....now we can see in all kinda indian propaganda the legacy of imperialistic mind: divide and rule< disputes everywhere instead of cooperation and coexstence of diffrent races and civilizations seen in indian current situation, the west has now achieved their divide and rule purpose in the south asia subcontinent even during post colonial era , thanks to your upper caste elite groups that whole heartedly accepted the western hegemonic baptism, following their way without knowing the uniqueness of modern oriental way of doing/solving things....>

a big shame and pity that the other part of the world are too weak to voice out their own demands and opinions...like africa, pro usa middle east and usa backyard latin america.........they at least can tell which country in asia is more enthusiastic in war-hyping than the rest anyway........

I BET THAT MY WORLD PERSPECTIVE IS MUCH MORE HOLISTIC THAN YOU !!!!!! AS I CAN ABSORB AND LEARN THE THINGS FROM BOTH SOCIETIES OF EAST AND WEST TO PREVENT TOO RIDICULOUS IGNORANCE....I BET YOUR CAN ONLY GET YOUR RUMORED-LIKE SOURCE FROM INDIAN AND AMERICAN/WEST PROPAGANDA, AS YOU ONLY KNOW ENGLISH AND YOUR MOTHER TONGUE/DIALECTS, AM I RIGHT???

i think this will be my last days in this forum since my trisemester will start soon....enjoy your south asia forums also...your analytical skills on current affairs will sooner or later truly be dragged down with these war-hyping south asian forums....nice staying in the incredible subcontinent where we outsiders cant/unable comment anything due to our retardedness on the issues happening in holy yet incredible india.........

This thread was related to south asia only. If your about India is done, can we move back to topic.

And lastly, my best wishes for your exams.

 

[bigmoneymaker]

This thread was related to south asia only. If your about India is done, can we move back to topic.

And lastly, my best wishes for your exams.

one thing to my greatest regret , why you always ignore true nature of the trend/ situation happening around india and internationally and interpret them in your own way to guide the national emotion in favor/against some policy?? politician figures gain??? ones should have broader view no matter it is in favor(overflatter) of him/her or not (criticism), if your eyes only being caught in subcontinent then my info will be just blah blah for you....it just proves that you are unable to break my statements...every related things must get its own reasons and consequences, that is the way the world works, that is why we are forced to understand its true nature or become lagged behind for some unknown reasons......my blah blah does move back to the reason why the south asia is so tense??topic.....my blah blah does move back to the reason why the south asia is so tense??topic.....and who is hyping about war related affairs in the first place after all the wars in the past have been ceased now??? now the rapidly everchanging world promotes peaceful development!!!! Or being caught in cold war era mind to go into war and then become development pace backwarded!! both neighbouring sides hurt...

 

[Developereo]

We already are being accused of funding the TTP which was founded by the former Pakistani establishment.

Any evidence of that, or are you deliberately feigning ignorance and confusing Afghan Taliban with TTP?

So if we say that we want to be left alone does that make it our hegemonic design of wanting to dominate and dictate" ?

If you hoard something which is disputed, you will not be left alone. A thief must always sleep with one eye open.

Nope it has nothing to do with "Muslim - Hindu" but I am glad that the writer sets out his bias on that issue at the outset. It has everything to do with land and resources though. The author needs to re evaluate his political science knowledge and refrain from adding his bigoted religious views into issue of politics. On that note were the "3 wars" Muslim-Hindu wars" ? Indians certainly don't view in that light. I wonder what my Pakistani kin think ?

Agree with this part; not all Pakistanis view the India-Pakistan conflict as a religious conflict, although the influence of both Hindu and Muslim extremism on either side cannot be overlooked.

Other disputes have been resolved or are pending resolution. Ask Sheikh Hassina and Sri Lanka. Size and strength doesn't matter to India. Principle does. And once again our principle is to leave us alone

On the contrary, it is precisely size and strength, or lack thereof, which allowed India to armtwist its smaller neighbors. And it is Pakistan's size and strength which continually irks India that it can't bully Pakistan the way it managed to bully the other neighbors. It is Pakistan's stubborn defiance to Indian hegemony which wins admiration in these countries.

Rajiv paid with his life an admitted mistake of the Indian government. At lease we are able to say "yes we funded these people but we realise that they are killing civilians and that is wrong. Therefore we will stop funding them and in fact try and help you to get rid of them. We did not go on a policy of "good LTTE" and "bad LTTE"

Completely wrong.

India had no problem with LTTE killing thousands of Sinhalese civilians, both Buddhist and Muslim. It was only after LTTE got involved in Tamil Nadu separatist movements within India that India changed its tune.

The only principle involved was one of Indian self-interest and self-preservation.

Again, make little screams of how you hate our country and don't expect us to send you flowers

Translation: Nepal better start kissing our butt, or we will do to it what we did to Bhutan and Sikkim.

If that was the situation then China would not be in Pakistan

Pakistan's relationship with China exists independently of India. It will continue regardless of whether India breaks up into a hundred pieces, or absorbs Bangaldesh and Sri Lanka.

India really needs to get off its high horse and cure itself of its delusions of self-importance.

All Mac did say was that "India's presence in Afghanistan is irking the Pakistanis and making it harder for him to work with the Pakistanis.

He said, "Increasing Indian influence in Afghanistan is likely to exacerbate regional tensions and encourage Pakistani countermeasures in Afghanistan or India."

We have two "aliens" leading this Hindutva dream of a Vrihata Bharat currently. Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh. I wonder whether they are Pakistani or Chinese agents sent in to derail our strategem of a Vrihata Bharat

The discrimination against non-Hindus in India is well documented, a few token appointments notwithstanding. Just the other day, I saw a Khalistan sticker on an Indian's car in Australia, meaning the struggle for Sikh freedom is alive and well.

USCIRF Puts India on Watch List for Religious oppression. Cause for concern. - India Currents

why would we want so many Muslim extremists incorporated into India?

Indeed, you have your hands full with Hindu extremists, Sikh separatists, and Maoist rebels.

And, finally, your statements

India's neighbours claiming land which belongs to India.

and

Those other nations could be chewed up by India overnight

perfectly sum up the Indian mindset which is the root of the problem.

The Indians' inability to understand that other points of view exist -- especially about about disputed land -- and the fact that other countries resent India's hegemonic attitude is exactly what the author was writing about.

Congratulations, you just proved the author's point.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

@Developereo

Great job in extracting bits and pieces of my detailed response to the article and not only misquoting them to suit your ability to reply but also giving a totally new meaning to what I said. You should consider a career in spin doctoring yaar