Why is 'Soft State' India Not Taking Action Against Islamic State Fighters and Their Recruiters?

[Yogijaat]

Why would leave the country my ancestors created and ruled?

your ancestors were from yamen

 

[mujhaidind]

your ancestors were from yamen

So what? Indian-subcontinent is a Muslim territory.

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

Why would leave the country my ancestors created and ruled?

Because the descendants of your remaining countrymen have decreed through the power of their vote that the country be run in a certain way. If you can't respect that, catch the next flight out of wetdreamsville and come back to reality. This political entity called India is NOT Muslim territory, nor is it Hindu or Christian. It is a secular identity with majority dharmic values that in no way, shape or form will ideally control the governance of this nation.

If you don't like it princess....

Yes. Agreed . these communal Chaddiwalas should stop. and give up.
lets cook beef brother.

but do you have 72 ??

Nobody wants to pay a new MBA grad that much to afford 72

 

[Yogijaat]

So what? Indian-subcontinent is a Muslim territory.

of course it is

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

Then you should blow your self up and take a few kaafirs with you. straight to heaven.

Accept the message of the one true prophet . and enjoy secular times.

I only obey the great lord God Messiah Morgan Freeman

 

[mirage2K]

Why no 72 hurrs for me...i am secular to the core....

 

[axisofevil]

With people like you, should we suprised that Indian Muslims turn to terrorism or extremism.

I forgot to that basic needs subsidies should also be provided to poor Muslims. And haj subsidy should be scrapped. In place of that a state sponsored free-all expense paid trip to Haj must be provided.

You're a troll. You just trying to forment trouble. Ask Pakistan and other Muslim countries to do that. No more subsidies and free hand outs to any religion or groups. The Muslim Authorities in India even recommended cancelling such Haj subsidies fool

 

[Jungibaaz]

ISIS is another huge global drama in the making, brought to you by the usual suspects; Western powers, their proxies, their enemies, the enemy's proxies and a whole load of hidden interests.

Action against ISIS is irrelevant if you wan't peace in the ME. If you wan't peace there, you have to stop the great game that is being played there, it seems there are no rules, referees, a free for all, open for all.

 

[janon]

ISIS is another huge global drama in the making, brought to you by the usual suspects; Western powers, their proxies, their enemies, the enemy's proxies and a whole load of hidden interests.

Action against ISIS is irrelevant if you wan't peace in the ME. If you wan't peace there, you have to stop the great game that is being played there, it seems there are no rules, referees, a free for all, open for all.

Well as long as India stays out of that mess...

That's what is worrying now, that ISIS is apparently able to recruit people from all over the globe, including India. We never heard of Indians going to fight in the Iran-Iraq war or even for Palestine, which is such an emotional issue for muslims everywhere.

But this ISIS seems to be attracting people from everywhere. I'm not quite sure what the allure is.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Well as long as India stays out of that mess...

That's what is worrying now, that ISIS is apparently able to recruit people from all over the globe, including India. We never heard of Indians going to fight in the Iran-Iraq war or even for Palestine, which is such an emotional issue for muslims everywhere.

But this ISIS seems to be attracting people from everywhere. I'm not quite sure what the allure is.

ISIS is just another pawn. The world has NO focus whatsoever on the person(s) pulling the strings.

Mark my words, once ISIS are squashed, there will be another, just as bad case of radical people, or another outburst of war that will again drag the rest of the world in it somehow. We've been doing this whole 'bomb the extremists, where ever we see fit.' idea for 13 years now. It hasn't worked so far. And it won't work this time.

 

[janon]

ISIS is just another pawn. The world has NO focus whatsoever on the person(s) pulling the strings.

Mark my words, once ISIS are squashed, there will be another, just as bad case of radical people, or another outburst of war that will again drag the rest of the world in it somehow. We've been doing this whole 'bomb the extremists, where ever we see fit.' idea for 13 years now. It hasn't worked so far. And it won't work this time.

This perpetual violence in the middle east has been going on for all of recorded history. USA's misguided war against Iraq in 2003 definitely paved the way for ISIS, but even without that, I'm sure radicals and terrorists would have existed in those regions.

All I'm wondering is how the ISIS is able to attract people from faraway places, like India and Europe. Many muslims actually seem to have fallen for their propoganda of representing all muslims and being a true caliphate, no matter how preposterous those claims are. I mean, al qaeida at its heights did not see such a rush of foreigners queueing up to join them.

I wonder what this ISIS is doing right, propoganda-wise.

 

[Jungibaaz]

This perpetual violence in the middle east has been going on for all of recorded history. USA's misguided war against Iraq in 2003 definitely paved the way for ISIS, but even without that, I'm sure radicals and terrorists would have existed in those regions.

That's the part I was talking about, even the 2003 war was more than just a blunder, it was a pack of lies. But why lie? Hidden interests of course. Of which you can find a thousand reasons for here on the net.

All I'm wondering is how the ISIS is able to attract people from faraway places, like India and Europe. Many muslims actually seem to have fallen for their propoganda of representing all muslims and being a true caliphate, no matter how preposterous those claims are. I mean, al qaeida at its heights did not see such a rush of foreigners queueing up to join them.

The Muslim world has been in a state of shock since the 1980's. Propaganda the extremists have been much better at. Even in Afghanistan, all important figures past ad present readily accept that the Taliban have won the propaganda war, that's why Obama pressed hard on the 'Hearts and minds' stuff, and even that failed to cover the damage.

Al Qaeda, and ISIS cannot be compared. AQ was born of, lived under and made it's name in entirely different circumstances AND regions. ISIS is a product of the Iraq war, and the war in Syria and is influenced by, but is not Al Qaeda.

Confused people are everywhere, but only a confused Muslim is vulnerable to ISIS like groups, all he has to do is stay awake the last few years and be angry at the world for the injustice he sees back home, all he has to do is absolve himself and his people of blame (which is very easy, human nature). If he does that he is vulnerable to harbouring sympathies for ISIS. Also this whole Islamic State thing is new, the Taliban had their own, but it was less pronounced. Whoever these ISIS people are, they are smart and their leaders have employed deadly propaganda in things as arbitrary and unsuspecting as the name of the group itself. It's a parasite.

I wonder what this ISIS is doing right, propoganda-wise.

Everything, even their name is the most despicably clever tool I've ever seen used by an extremist group. They leached off the conflict in Syria to become something, they then used the sectarian divide and propensity for violence left over by the Iraq war to easily sweep across the land, driving back the Iraqi army and taking the whole world by utter surprise and shock. Their declaration of an Islamic State, their hidden leader, their beheadings.

Probably the most talked about story internationally, this sort of story sells in the media. And whether it sells a good image or bad, the purpose of the propaganda is done. ISIS has used the Western media to propel it's propaganda.

 

[invinciblesgunner]

Most of the outsiders who join ISIS lack education, don't have a job or have criminal history, mostly violence and drugs. I don't know what type of state their mind is in, but too me it sounds logical why these type of people would join ISIS. They probably want to give their life a "meaning" and be "forgiven" anyway. The recruits aren't the problem, get the ones who do the recruiting. Because anyone can be a "potential" terrorist

 

[Kaniska]

50% reservation of Muslims in Jobs and education
100% state sponsored free higher education for Muslims
0% interest loans for Muslim entrepreneurs and Businessmen.

And Indian Muslims won't become terrorists or extremists. Discrimination and our poor economic condition is making us extremists.

I think you are talking some sense now..I do not think reservation in Job is a good idea..Rather Gov should invest more money for eduction of the Muslim youth...But the next question, where is the guarantee that educated Muslim youth are not terrorists?...If you see the recent trend, educated Muslims are prone to terrorism more than uneducated one...Bottomline is why not uneducated Hindu or Sikh or Christian people are not getting into Terrorism where as why only Muslims?....You might have some answer to it as you have created a condition for Muslim youth not to become terrorist?

You're a troll. You just trying to forment trouble. Ask Pakistan and other Muslim countries to do that. No more subsidies and free hand outs to any religion or groups. The Muslim Authorities in India even recommended cancelling such Haj subsidies fool

No dear..he is the real face of Mass Muslim people in India...We might shout at him but he is the true sentiment of Indian Muslim to large extent..They always present a different face in public than what they have in their heart...After looking at him, i am thinking that it is good that Gandhi dies in 1948...otherwise my nation would have been ruled by Islamist..That person just sh** us to the core...These kind of trolls would not have thought to talk if India would have declared any religion country except Islam..The so called secular India posters in this PDF should have a look at these Islamist Indian posters...

 

[acetophenol]

50% reservation of Muslims in Jobs and education
100% state sponsored free higher education for Muslims
0% interest loans for Muslim entrepreneurs and Businessmen.

And Indian Muslims won't become terrorists or extremists. Discrimination and our poor economic condition is making us extremists.

Just STFU man, there is no need for reservations based on religions,any religion. We should scrap'em all. What we need is a purely merit based reservation system.

I think you are talking some sense now..I do not think reservation in Job is a good idea..Rather Gov should invest more money for eduction of the Muslim youth...But the next question, where is the guarantee that educated Muslim youth are not terrorists?...If you see the recent trend, educated Muslims are prone to terrorism more than uneducated one...Bottomline is why not uneducated Hindu or Sikh or Christian people are not getting into Terrorism where as why only Muslims?....You might have some answer to it as you have created a condition for Muslim youth not to become terrorist?



No dear..he is the real face of Mass Muslim people in India...We might shout at him but he is the true sentiment of Indian Muslim to large extent..They always present a different face in public than what they have in their heart...After looking at him, i am thinking that it is good that Gandhi dies in 1948...otherwise my nation would have been ruled by Islamist..That person just sh** us to the core...These kind of trolls would not have thought to talk if India would have declared any religion country except Islam..The so called secular India posters in this PDF should have a look at these Islamist Indian posters...

With all respect ji, do not generalise a community seeing a bunch of morons.