Why Is Pakistan Such a Mess? Blame India.

[AugenBlick]

Time will reveal it.

 

[Sky lord]

nation grudges takes nation years not human years, we have been stabbed too many times to trust hindu nation now.

By the way Pakistan is not in a mess, yes there is some mess in Pakistan but its not something Pakistan cannot handle. India is in the same mess with their uprisings. One dont get the idea of how different and how progressed Pakistan is until you go see it yourself...I just saw it after 6 years and am pleasantly surprised.

I was only quoting the OP article written by a muslim writer in a western publication, if Pakistan is not a mess as you say, then good for you and this article is wrong. You would certainly know best, after being pleasantly surprised and all

You don't need to trust us, I don't think any Indians are losing sleep worrying over whether Pakistan trusts India or not, what difference does that make to you or us? So, basically there is nothing to argue about, we are in agreement here.

The article is blaming india for what they author mistakenly thinks is a mess in Pakistan by saying that if there was a mess then it would be the fault of Ghandi and Nehru because they did not sufficiently " downplay" Murder and rapes of Hindus . Also the emigration of. Hindus out of Pakistan during partition was a plot to take out the "clerks" from the new nation of pakistan. The movement of middle class muslims into pakistan in no way filled the gap.

Basically Mr. Hajari feels that India should have allowed itself to get beaten into a pulp while at the same time accommodating Pakistan as a new nation. Indias own needs Ofcourse do not matter.

 

[banvanaxl]

nation grudges takes nation years not human years, we have been stabbed too many times to trust hindu nation now.

By the way Pakistan is not in a mess, yes there is some mess in Pakistan but its not something Pakistan cannot handle. India is in the same mess with their uprisings. One dont get the idea of how different and how progressed Pakistan is until you go see it yourself...I just saw it after 6 years and am pleasantly surprised.

Even if we agree with your victim hood narrative, it still doesnt explain why most of the islamic nations save a few which have adopted liberal values and ethic viz. Turkey and Malaysia are going through similar pangs.

Is the whole world conspiring against the Islamic brethen? Seriously Isn't it time you folks did the "Apney girebaan main jhakna thing"?

 

[Pulsar]

If he truly hopes to break the deadlock on the subcontinent, Modi needs to do something even Gandhi could not: give Pakistan, a nation born out of paranoia about Hindu dominance, less to fear.

Why Is Pakistan Such a Mess? Blame India. | Foreign Policy

And how, pray can this be done? What is Pakistan scared off? It's not as if India is about to invade Pakistan, but the other way around - fighting a proxy war against India with their terror mercenaries for close to 30 years for trying to capture Kashmir since they failed to do so in conventional wars in 1947 and 1965.....and then there was Kargil too, which was a desperate attempt to capture Kashmir! So who is trying to put fear in the other? Who's invading whom?

 

[Bang Galore]

. All of this reflects Modi's failure to isolate Pakistan. In fact even in Kashmir he has come out looking weak as prior to his election win he regularly chastised Congress for not doing anything about "cross border firing". Once in power he has realized he cant do jack shit about Pakistan and all of his jingoistic chest thumping nonsense is for the domestic consumption of his Hindutva fanboys.

Modi hasn't shown much interest in Pakistan, let alone bothering with your claim of isolating it. In Kashmir, an election has been held with a huge participation, that can hardly be construed as anything but a great success. As for the cross-border firing, Modi has dealt with it fairly well, nobody on the Pakistani side is under any illusions on what happened last year. As for suddenly realising that there are limits to what can be done, never confuse electoral rhetoric for a lack of appreciation. This was a 3 time Chief minister who had enough experts advising him and he (or indeed any other politician) would have been under no illusions of what could or could not be done. He won an election with attacking the Congress,on this too but primarily economic matters and that's as big a victory as a politician expects.

Modi has shown little interest in Pakistan beyond his outreach right at the very beginning. Unlike before, you rarely hear comments about Pakistan during Modi's bilateral meetings with Obama or other leaders. If it is mentioned, it is deliberately kept on the back burner and Modi has almost never spoken about it outside electoral rhetoric. Trade talk too has largely been shelved. Most Pakistan commentators have bemoaned the fact that India is not interested in engaging Pakistan or that it is too arrogant etc, hardly a sign of Pakistan forming the centre of Modi's calculus.

Pakistan is a neighbour and mostly problematic with little upside in the relationship. While it will always have to be dealt with, unless there is either a crisis or a surprising breakthrough, it is unlikely that India-Pakistan relations will occupy the centre stage of anyone's attention in Modi's government. Mostly this will be about middling on regardless of the hyperbole of the TV anchors & guests.

 

[Sliver]

Every Country has issues. Blaming someone else for that is really in bad taste. Unless it was an all out war.
Also, Pakistan is in no mess. It "can" become a mess if certain things go wrong. but right now, its doing pretty ok.

finally, India will try to assert itself on Pakistan. Thats the ground rule. India will try to assert itself in the region. either figure out ways to take advantage of it or try to find a way to push it back.

 

[xyxmt]

Even if we agree with your victim hood narrative, it still doesnt explain why most of the islamic nations save a few which have adopted liberal values and ethic viz. Turkey and Malaysia are going through similar pangs.

Is the whole world conspiring against the Islamic brethen? Seriously Isn't it time you folks did the "Apney girebaan main jhakna thing"?

I agree with your views on Islamic world, but whats wrong with hinduism why do you have so many hindu fundametalists

 

[dray]

Time will reveal it.

Umeed pe duniya kayem hai...!

 

[Sneaker]

I read the article earlier. Apart from the fact that Hindutva bigotry was the reason behind the demand for Pakistan, it hardly proves anything.

Pakistan can defend itself in a conventional war with India. This changes the rules of the game.

As far as Modi is concerned, he has tried and immensely failed to isolate Pakistan. His assertive steps give weight to Pakistan's diplomacy. More than ever, Pakistan is expanding its international footprint, not decreasing it.

Fact is quite the opposite, I fear. It was islamic fundamentalism, the belief that muslims are inherently superior to hindus (who were in slight majority in combined india) on part of some muslims that lead to creation of pakistan. There is no other way to put it, especially due to the fact that even today minorities trickle to India seeking refuge and escaping persecution but India is also home to 2nd/3rd largest muslim population that doesn't want to go to pakistan...

 

[IrbiS]

Pakistan is not even a country anymore, it's just a terrorist sh!thole dominated by US military

 

[rockstar08]

Pakistan is not even a country anymore, it's just a terrorist sh!thole dominated by US military

than what a country looks like ? care to tell us ??
if you have nothing positive to contribute here , than dont release your frustration on us , go and Masturba**

 

[Jayanta]

I havent read the article yet. But since when did PAkistan blame India for the mess, read terror, going on in the country?

There has been evidence India is involved in terror in Pakistan but until recently, Pakistan never pointed finger publicly at India. Compare this to India. Even a bus accident is blamed on us.

There was a Times of India article shared yesterday on heat wave coming from Pakistan. Did you read the sick Indian comments on news report on ToI website?

Kindly make the evidences public...rather than guarding them as a national treasure...putting it in front of the international media would do some justice. All I hear and see is...We have evidence...and in the name of evidence it is some youtube video of Ajit Doval and Parrikar answering general questions either to a group of gathering or reporters. These are not evidences....kindly provide something concrete....
Blaming India for everything wrong in your country be it floods, earth quake, terrorism etc...is a good strategy for the establishment to escape accountability, but it won't solve the issues. One simple fact is all those involved in terrorism are Pakistani nationals or others who have got shelter to do their Jihad....why not first act upon and close all Jihadi manufacturing cottage industries aka Madrassas.

 

[Spring Onion]

Pakistan is not even a country anymore, it's just a terrorist sh!thole dominated by US military

still we managed to piss you off

 

[SipahSalar]

Bakray ki maan kab tak moj manay gi. Indians should enjoy what time they have left, inshaAllah they will learn a hard lesson.

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

OK if Blaming India helps you to feel better ; keep blaming
But it wont solve anything

Why? Is this not you have been doing with the Pakistan since Independence?