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Why is Germany hostile against Türkiye but tolerant against underdeveloped and dictatoric states ?

Is Germany hostile against Türkiye


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Please explain it further !
Some People especially Kurds who went there in the 80's as refugees never left their "Style living in villages and in vlans, also some Turks; but the first Turks Generation already died " ; now where is the Problem ?
 
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Please explain it further !
Some People especially Kurds who went there in the 80's as refugees never left their "Style living in villages and in vlans, also some Turks; but the first Turks Generation already died " ; now where is the Problem ?
The first Generation is still alive. And most of the second Generation of Turks are still not integrated.
(Since you know many of the Turks in Germany came from villages so they still retain this mentality)
 
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is that not german equipment for the pkk/ypg or whatever bitch? must be very hard to see those rats now diying like poisened rats for germany.. :police:


FDP Party member Huch in "Kurdistan" this asshole is very active in germany for the pkk etc:

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the bitch in a sherefedin temple of yezidis..
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writing "is this really islam" to IS as a answer to Mr. Todenhöfer (CDU , he did a serious interview with a IS guy and let him talk.. ) - a rpg for terrorists
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look at his facebook site:
Tobias Huch | Facebook

there is a video were he is on a pkk demonstration:

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/h...=ca352d29484f4aab8995398553c3d43c&oe=55C74AF4

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/h...=f8a327994a80bc376dc2f9b3e54f1a52&oe=55C74FBA
 
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Yes German Bundeswehr equipment. Some were sold to IS through dark channels. We talk about MILAN s. Most of Yezide story and head cuttings were a scenario. They have great population in CELLE Germany.

And work close to PKK in Germany. They are also used as spies afaik
 
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3mio Turks live here and you have no voice and no significant influence. It seems you make something wrong.
 
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many of the listed weapons are now in use of PKK/PYS; some sold to IS


German weapons deliveries to Iraq's Kurdish region
The German government has decided to deliver weapons and munitions worth a total of 70 million euros ($91 million) to Kurdish forces in northern Iraq. DW provides an overview of the weapons systems in question.

The weapons will be delivered in three tranches to a secure region of Iraq that has not been affected by the civil war, according to the German Defense Ministry. An initial partial delivery will leave Germany in the next two weeks and arrive in Irbil via Baghdad. The entire first delivery to northern Iraq will be completed by the end of September. The second and third deliveries will depend on the situation on the ground.
Berlin will send enough weapons to equip a brigade of 4,000 soldiers, according to Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. Von der Leyen said parliamentary approval is not required for the weapons deliveries.
Training, if necessary, will take place in Germany. If that's not possible, training will occur either in Irbil, the capital of Iraq's Kurdish region, or a third country. The deployment of German soldiers for the purpose of training Kurdish forces to use the weapons does not require a parliamentary mandate, according to the Defense Ministry.
First tranche:
4,000 G3 assault rifles; 1 million rounds of ammunition
20 MG3 heavy machine guns; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
4,000 P1 pistols; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
20 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 300 guided rockets
100 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 1,250 rockets
20 heavy rocket launchers; 500 rockets
50 flare guns; 2,000 rounds
5,000 hand grenades
20 WOLF jeeps
10 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
20 UNIMOG trucks

G3 assault rifle
Second tranche:
4,000 G3 assault rifles; 1 million rounds of ammunition
20 MG3 heavy machine guns; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
4,000 P1 pistols; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
10 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 200 guided rockets
100 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 1,250 rockets
20 heavy rocker launchers; 500 rockets
50 flare guns; 2,000 rounds
5,000 hand grenades
20 WOLF jeeps
10 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
20 UNIMOG trucks

MG3 heavy machine gun
Third tranche:
8,000 G36 assault rifles; 4 million rounds of ammunition
1 tanker truck
5 DINGO-1 armored vehicles

G36 assault rifle
Total weapons, munitions, and vehicles:
8,000 G3 assault rifles; 2 million rounds of ammunition
8,000 G36 assault rifles; 4 million rounds of ammunition
40 MG3 heavy machine guns; 1 million rounds of ammunition
8,000 P1 pistols; 1 million rounds of ammunition
30 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 500 guided rockets
200 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 2,500 rockets
40 heavy rocket lauchers; 1,000 rockets
100 flare guns; 4,00 rounds
10,000 hand grenades

MILAN anti-tank weapon
40 WOLF jeeps
20 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
40 UNIMOG trucks
1 tanker truck
5 DINGO-1 armored vehicles
DW recommends

PKK - from terrorist threat to ally?
The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) is banned in Germany. The EU deems it a terrorist group. Now, however, regarding the threat from 'IS,' some German politicians appear ready to begin discussions over reconsidering. (30.08.2014)

 
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@Bismarck

Senior Journalist of Hürriyet wrote from Berlin :

It was obvious that German wepaons would partly fall in the Hands of PKK. Left Party and Green applauded to the deliveries despite they know it is against German Consitution to deliver German Weapons into not allied conflict Areas.
Now PKK has won selfconfidence from this "legalization discussions" and German Security Forces are scared that violent acts like in the 90's can again happen in Germany.
E.G. attack on Turkish and Israeli diplomatic missions, blocking of Highways.

Almanya’da PKK tedirginliği - Hürriyet Avrupa


A look back, thanks to @bsruzm


UK/GERMANY/BELGIUM: KURDISH PROTESTS CONTINUE | AP Archive
Bu link'te aradığın olaylara dair videolar mevcut.
Sırasıyla;
London, Berlin, Jerusalem, Brussels February 17 1999

APTN - London - Night Shots
1. Mid Shot, scuffles in crowd
2. Close-up, man chanting
3. Police carrying man out of crowd.

APTN - Berlin, Germany Feb 17 1999
4. Umbrella on ground pan up to soldier
5. Close up blood on snow pans to umbrella
6. Zoom into blood stains on snow
7. Body on stretcher being carried down steps

ARD - Berlin, Feb 17
8. Stretcher carrying injured man
9. Injured man being dragged along in chair
10. Various of injured and paramedics
11. Wide shot of Israeli flag
12. Various of injured being put into ambulances

APTN - Jerusalem, Feb 17
13. Netanyahu walking into news conference
14. Cutaway
15. SOUNDBITE: (English) Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister

APTN - London, Feb 17
16. Various of Kurdish demonstrators holding minutes silence
17. Kurdish demonstrators chanting

APTN - Brussels, Feb 17
18. Women shouting for Ocalan and being led into van
19. Wide shot of protesters
20. Police
21. Television crew being stopped from interviewing protester by police
22. Various of protesters
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Press Information on the Statement of the German Ministry of Interior and the Request of the Greek President From His Austrian Counterpart February 19, 1999 / Rep. of Turkey Ministry of Foreign Affairs
News by Date for March 1999
http://fas.org/irp/threat/terror_99/europe.html
CNN - Kurds seize embassies, wage violent protests across Europe - February 17, 1999
3 KURDS SHOT DEAD BY ISRAELI GUARDS AT BERLIN PROTEST - NYTimes.com
Washingtonpost.com: 3 Kurds Die in Berlin as Protests Continue
BBC News | Europe | Kurds continue German protests
Israelis Fire on Kurds as Mob Storms Consulate - latimes
Three Kurds killed in Berlin shootout | World news | The Guardian
ISRAEL GUARDS KILL 3 KURDS AT CONSULATE RIOT IN BERLIN | New York Post
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Kurdish mob storms Israeli consulate in Berlin - Terrorism.com
Israelis slay Kurds in siege of consulate<BR> Shootings in Berlin come as protesters storm the building | Deseret News
Kurdish rebels continue assaults on Israeli outposts | j. the Jewish news weekly of Northern California
CNN - Netanyahu: Israeli guards acted in self-defense against Kurds - February 17, 1999
Schroder appeals for calm after Israelis kill three
UPI Focus: Kurds killed as protests continue - UPI Archives
International repression follows Ocalan's capture - World Socialist Web Site
Surprising Ties between Israel and the Kurds :: Middle East Quarterly
Kurdish protesters express outrage in Australia - World Socialist Web Site
KURDISH PROTESTS WINDING DOWN | New York Post
Kurdish rebel's arrest stirs riots | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
Germans debate plan to deport violent protesters to Turkey
For a Socialist Republic of United Kurdistan!
KURDISH REACTION: Arrest sparks protests around world
KURDISH PROTEST: Greek embassy seige
 
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German weapons deliveries to Iraq's Kurdish region
The German government has decided to deliver weapons and munitions worth a total of 70 million euros ($91 million) to Kurdish forces in northern Iraq. DW provides an overview of the weapons systems in question.

The weapons will be delivered in three tranches to a secure region of Iraq that has not been affected by the civil war, according to the German Defense Ministry. An initial partial delivery will leave Germany in the next two weeks and arrive in Irbil via Baghdad. The entire first delivery to northern Iraq will be completed by the end of September. The second and third deliveries will depend on the situation on the ground.
Berlin will send enough weapons to equip a brigade of 4,000 soldiers, according to Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. Von der Leyen said parliamentary approval is not required for the weapons deliveries.
Training, if necessary, will take place in Germany. If that's not possible, training will occur either in Irbil, the capital of Iraq's Kurdish region, or a third country. The deployment of German soldiers for the purpose of training Kurdish forces to use the weapons does not require a parliamentary mandate, according to the Defense Ministry.
First tranche:
4,000 G3 assault rifles; 1 million rounds of ammunition
20 MG3 heavy machine guns; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
4,000 P1 pistols; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
20 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 300 guided rockets
100 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 1,250 rockets
20 heavy rocket launchers; 500 rockets
50 flare guns; 2,000 rounds
5,000 hand grenades
20 WOLF jeeps
10 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
20 UNIMOG trucks

G3 assault rifle
Second tranche:
4,000 G3 assault rifles; 1 million rounds of ammunition
20 MG3 heavy machine guns; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
4,000 P1 pistols; 500,000 rounds of ammunition
10 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 200 guided rockets
100 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 1,250 rockets
20 heavy rocker launchers; 500 rockets
50 flare guns; 2,000 rounds
5,000 hand grenades
20 WOLF jeeps
10 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
20 UNIMOG trucks

MG3 heavy machine gun
Third tranche:
8,000 G36 assault rifles; 4 million rounds of ammunition
1 tanker truck
5 DINGO-1 armored vehicles

G36 assault rifle
Total weapons, munitions, and vehicles:
8,000 G3 assault rifles; 2 million rounds of ammunition
8,000 G36 assault rifles; 4 million rounds of ammunition
40 MG3 heavy machine guns; 1 million rounds of ammunition
8,000 P1 pistols; 1 million rounds of ammunition
30 MILAN anti-tank weapons; 500 guided rockets
200 shoulder-fired Panzerfaust 3 rocket launchers; 2,500 rockets
40 heavy rocket lauchers; 1,000 rockets
100 flare guns; 4,00 rounds
10,000 hand grenades

MILAN anti-tank weapon
40 WOLF jeeps
20 lightly armored WOLF jeeps
40 UNIMOG trucks
1 tanker truck
5 DINGO-1 armored vehicles
DW recommends

PKK - from terrorist threat to ally?
The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) is banned in Germany. The EU deems it a terrorist group. Now, however, regarding the threat from 'IS,' some German politicians appear ready to begin discussions over reconsidering. (30.08.2014)



the turkish government should tell germans that their plane will be shoot down if they voilate turkish air space..

Truth is that the Turkish lobby is a joke when you look at how successfully the Isreali and Armenian lobby operate.

right but germans would never hear to any turkish lobby we have buttholes like özdemir in green party... others are not welcome
 
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Türkiye is not cooperating in delivery of weapons to terrorists. Germans use transit airspace via Georgia and AZ for that special missions
 
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