Why Iran needs to fight Saudi Arabia to forge peace

[Arminkh]

Are you working for the IRGC? and in particular for Hezbollah Lebanon? Your Lebanese accent is strong and it does indicate spending sometime in Lebanon. Most Iranians who travel to Lebanon are related one way or another to Hezbollah, and you wouldn't be an exception. That might explain your continued defensiveness.

IRGC members are not from Mars or another constellation! They are Iranian too. It is funny that to some like yourself, there shouldn't be any patriot and proud Iranian who like his country the way it is now. And if he is, then he is paid by the government to do so. Very shortsighted indeed!

 

[Full Moon]

funny that a few weeks ago.. I had 4 guests from Pakistan in Iran... I know the older guy from uni days...They are from respected and of course rich layer of Islamabad citizens.. I gave them a tour to Mashhad (not the first city of Iran).. and just because a young fella among them asked me to show him ups and downs of Iran I took them to the parts of city no body recommends... He said, he wants to know the truth about Iran as there is little info out there as he has an offer from a big Iranian company to work for them (programming for a industrial refrigeration systems producer)... I recall expressions like: wow... I,m shocked... It,s like Europe.. It is so clean.. The cars sucks (later when he found out my car is Made in Iran he gave me the biggest wow although its not the best car in the world (IKCO DENA)... Is this the average Iranians neibhourhood? No, I replied.. It is the worst part or as we call it "Payin Shahr"... Then I took the youngest guy to a good neibhourhood... The moment he saw BMWs, Benz, Porches cars he said.. we are told by media in Pakistan that these stuff is only found in West and Arab countries... Then I explained to him that we have at least %20 poor people too... and that after exchange rate rose due to sanctions our salaries means shhit these days... although still high to his eyes... (my salary for my job as economist is between 2900000 to 3200000 depending on the benefits and it was something like 1800 to $2000 three years ago but now only worth $840 to $915... Younger employee are even worse.. They get some thing between 1700000 to 2000000....)

So based on my impression my **** friends loved it and got shocked also... I know Iran is not in the same level as Europe but still much closer to them than you... for reference google HDI ranking of nations

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No, habibi... I was teaching in Beirut back in 1990s..

Teaching what to whom? Other than Shia religious things or Hezbollah training, I haven't seen or heard an Iranian teaching anything to anyone in Lebanon.

IRGC members are not from Mars or another constellation! They are Iranian too. It is funny that to some like yourself, there shouldn't be any patriot and proud Iranian who like his country the way it is now. And if he is, then he is paid by the government to do so. Very shortsighted indeed!

The IRGC is Iran's hidden tumor. It will be the thing that brings Iran to its knees.

 

[scythian500]

btw, happy marriage... I have heard you are married at last...


لا یا خیی... منه مظبوط
I am old enough to remember how Iran was doing before revolution... I actually was preparing for national uni exam by rev... so I recall everything... It was n't as you may think...

The only positive stuff I recall from pre-rev days are:
Be free to choose Hijab or naked... People were kinder to each other (although it is a global problem I guess), it was more fun (maybe because I was young back then and youth today has the same taste in Iran!!).. Loose Visa requirements due to being a close ally of USA and ISrael... (I and my gf back then made it to 13 countries in Europe no visa or limitation back then)...Good economic teams... It was also good when we used to drink whiskey in X place in Mashhad and then shoot for a disco near airport dancing Spanish for hours with girls and boys... I can't find one more benefit... funny

Teaching what to whom? Other than Shia religious things or Hezbollah training, I haven't seen or heard an Iranian teaching anything to anyone in Lebanon.



The IRGC is Iran's hidden tumor. It will be the thing that brings Iran to its knees.

This shows how cliche you are... only because you didn't hear something does not mean there is n't any of that... I taught Bank Du Liban how to analyse reserves... Funny but all my students back then were Maroonis (Christians) except one Sunni guy

 

[Arminkh]

Teaching what to whom? Other than Shia religious things or Hezbollah training, I haven't seen or heard an Iranian teaching anything to anyone in Lebanon.



The IRGC is Iran's hidden tumor. It will be the thing that brings Iran to its knees.

Same way that Al Saud is KSA's hidden tumor? That one is not hidden anymore I suppose.

No it is totally different. If anything, to me they are the most patriot Iranians you can find as they have stood in Iran and are dealing with its up and downs. They are doing what they do because they have been asked to do so. I know West and your country would like to picture it as if IRGC is turning Iran into a military controlled nation but it has never been the case.

 

[scythian500]

Teaching what to whom? Other than Shia religious things or Hezbollah training, I haven't seen or heard an Iranian teaching anything to anyone in Lebanon.



The IRGC is Iran's hidden tumor. It will be the thing that brings Iran to its knees.

But Iran today is way a more advanced and progressive nation that back then... You are too young to reach this point to know that no nation became prioneer overnight... They had to go through alot and learn.. Iran is now fixing mistakes it commited... It is not prefect yet.. nobody claims so.. but the direction is right... Soon, Iranian nation find its true protenial again... This is history... It repeats itself as we say in economy... There are ups and downs for any nation... Iran was sleep for almost 200 years and now again is rising... but this time we are more experienced... will keep what we earned..

by the way, the only setbacks in system that I,m aware of are management of resources and some bad laws... Thanks God these setbacks are now recognised as existing problems in Iran and they soon will be fixed... I have info that I can't share with you or anybody else here but Iran is on rise baby... Economy and management will be revolutionized soon inchallah... Other than this, I give you an story to know how it is to be an Iranian in Iran... unfortunately some Iranians don't appreciate what gems they have sometime...

I met an Iraqi officer in Imam Reza Haram a while ago... then I helped him with something.. then we became friends.. then we talked for an hour or so... I expressed my sorry for all the terrorist explosions in Baghdad (btw, did u know Baghdad name is Persian!?)... He said this is a common sorrow and pain all around the world... I said.. It is not in Iran!! He said...but you definately remember it before... I said..no... Neither me nor any of my friends, and family and relatives been close to witness ot a victim of a suicide attack... he was in a state of envy and shock... I tried to say something to comfort him.. so I told him... Don't worry instead we had lots of chemical bombings by Saddam of yours!! He became even more sad!!! ooops

 

[Full Moon]

The only positive stuff I recall from pre-rev days are:
Be free to choose Hijab or naked... People were kinder to each other (although it is a global problem I guess), it was more fun (maybe because I was young back then and youth today has the same taste in Iran!!).. Loose Visa requirements due to being a close ally of USA and ISrael... (I and my gf back then made it to 13 countries in Europe no visa or limitation back then)...Good economic teams... It was also good when we used to drink whiskey in X place in Mashhad and then shoot for a disco near airport dancing Spanish for hours with girls and boys... I can't find one more benefit... funny


This shows how cliche you are... only because you didn't hear something does not mean there is n't any of that... I taught Bank Du Liban how to analyse reserves... Funny but all my students back then were Maroonis (Christians) except one Sunni guy

اسمع حبيبي أنا تعبت من الحكي وبدي روح نام عندي شغل بكرة أهم من كل هالنقاشات والخزعبلات، الفرس والعرب أعداء أبد الدهر والأيام بيننا
هلق إنت روح نام كمان واترك عنك الجدل في المنتديات لأنه مابيطعمي خبز، أكيد عندك شغل بكرة أهم من كل هالحكي ​

 

[scythian500]

Teaching what to whom? Other than Shia religious things or Hezbollah training, I haven't seen or heard an Iranian teaching anything to anyone in Lebanon.



The IRGC is Iran's hidden tumor. It will be the thing that brings Iran to its knees.

buddy... Those Iranians that I call ex-Iranians, that you meet and gather your info from are not a good source to Iran... They are less than a fraction of a percent of Iranians... They had big psychological problems... This is why they give you unreal info... They deliver you their dreams... trust Iranians inside with huge experience and correct your insight... I,m tellling you this only because somehow I like you although I hate you

اسمع حبيبي أنا تعبت من الحكي وبدي روح نام عندي شغل بكرة أهم من كل هالنقاشات والخزعبلات، الفرس والعرب أعداء أبد الدهر والأيام بيننا
هلق إنت روح نام كمان واترك عنك الجدل في المنتديات لأنه مابيطعمي خبز، أكيد عندك شغل بكرة أهم من كل هالحكي ​

ولله صح.. بس انا مبشتغل بکیر... نامی یا حببتی..نامی یا عصفوره

 

[Full Moon]

buddy... Those Iranians that I call ex-Iranians, that you meet and gather your info from are not a good source to Iran... They are less than a fraction of a percent of Iranians... They had big psychological problems... This is why they give you unreal info... They deliver you their dreams... trust Iranians inside with huge experience and correct your insight... I,m tellling you this only because somehow I like you although I hate you


ولله صح.. بس انا مبشتغل بکیر... نامی یا حببتی..نامی یا عصفوره

ليش حضرتك ما عندك شغل والا متقاعد هلق؟ إذا منك لاقي شغل بقدر دبر لك وظيفة بدبي ​

 

[scythian500]

ليش حضرتك ما عندك شغل والا متقاعد هلق؟ إذا منك لاقي شغل بقدر دبر لك وظيفة بدبي ​

عندی شغل.. مننی متکاعد لحد هلله ... بس شو هالوظیفه عندک بدبی؟

بس فی ملاحظه... انا ما بقدر اتحمل الشوب تبعکن...
عندی وظیفه استشاریه... مش لازم افیک بکیر

 

[AmirPatriot]

Economy and management will be revolutionized soon inchallah...

Inshallah bro... we have some really bad economic management. On all levels. Like putting huge subsidy on petrol (wtf?) while also trying to reduce consumption and facing pollution problem. Manufacturing 20 year old Peugeot 206 to this day. Inefficient tax system. Putting stupid high import tariff so IKCO gets lazy... etc.

Bro do you know anywhere I can get detailed economic analysis and figures about Iran? I'm studying economics but cannot find any up to date info...

 

[scythian500]

Inshallah bro... we have some really bad economic management. On all levels. Like putting huge subsidy on petrol (wtf?) while also trying to reduce consumption and facing pollution problem. Manufacturing 20 year old Peugeot 206 to this day. Inefficient tax system. Putting stupid high import tariff so IKCO gets lazy... etc.

Bro do you know anywhere I can get detailed economic analysis and figures about Iran? I'm studying economics but cannot find any up to date info...

IMF, UN, EIU (economist magazine reports), World Bank, some American banks all have detailed analysis of Iranian economy. Internally we have lots of them but CBI Central bank is the best source...

my experience which involves direct analysis sometimes tells me most of these reports have two problems;

- They don't use latest data to base their claims on... (This is mostly Iran's fault... In Iran until recently there were paralel centers for producing data and they sometimes do revise data unexpectedly... This makes the job hard for analysts and economists.. they need to stay vigilant not being fooled by political numbers too)

- Minds behind most foreign reports don't have enough intelligence about Iranian economic system and all its official and hidden numbers....

 

[Max]

u stone ager uncivilized person... If the words of Muhammad and his family and the way they lived and acted was from a family in Senegal I would gladly choose it... It does not contradicts the fact and nature of the people whom Muhammad sent by God to them to be guided from misery... The fact that Muhammad was sent to this people first it means they were in a very bad situation.. heck imagine what they were that after 14 centuries they became this!!

clown i was talking about Ayatolllah's with black Turban not about Holy prophet (PBUH)..

Iranians more have problem with Saudi, Wahhabi type of fake Islam that kills innocent people like cowards and finish their actions as Muslims...

So, i asked you before and ask you again, will you engage them in proxy wars for next 1000 years? why dont you destroy the hub of Wahabbis once and for all so they will not get any financial help from Saudis, and other GCC countries?

funny that a few weeks ago.. I had 4 guests from Pakistan in Iran... I know the older guy from uni days...They are from respected and of course rich layer of Islamabad citizens.. I gave them a tour to Mashhad (not the first city of Iran).. and just because a young fella among them asked me to show him ups and downs of Iran I took them to the parts of city no body recommends... He said, he wants to know the truth about Iran as there is little info out there as he has an offer from a big Iranian company to work for them (programming for a industrial refrigeration systems producer)... I recall expressions like: wow... I,m shocked... It,s like Europe.. It is so clean.. The cars sucks (later when he found out my car is Made in Iran he gave me the biggest wow although its not the best car in the world (IKCO DENA)... Is this the average Iranians neibhourhood? No, I replied.. It is the worst part or as we call it "Payin Shahr"... Then I took the youngest guy to a good neibhourhood... The moment he saw BMWs, Benz, Porches cars he said.. we are told by media in Pakistan that these stuff is only found in West and Arab countries... Then I explained to him that we have at least %20 poor people too... and that after exchange rate rose due to sanctions our salaries means shhit these days... although still high to his eyes... (my salary for my job as economist is between 2900000 to 3200000 depending on the benefits and it was something like 1800 to $2000 three years ago but now only worth $840 to $915... Younger employee are even worse.. They get some thing between 1700000 to 2000000....)

So based on my impression my **** friends loved it and got shocked also... I know Iran is not in the same level as Europe but still much closer to them than you... for reference google HDI ranking of nations

Iran is better then Pakistan, i never talked about it, i replied to him bcoz he was claiming that no one is civilized in South Asia and ME except Iran..

There was a times just before Brits when Turks, Iranian, Afghans used to earn their livelihood by raiding our subcontinent.. their Kings used to act as decoits and looters.. we people of Subcontinent on other hand was owner of quarter of world wealth back then..

 

[B@KH]

u stone ager uncivilized person... If the words of Muhammad and his family and the way they lived and acted was from a family in Senegal I would gladly choose it... It does not contradicts the fact and nature of the people whom Muhammad sent by God to them to be guided from misery... The fact that Muhammad was sent to this people first it means they were in a very bad situation.. heck imagine what they were that after 14 centuries they became this!!

this is not the official reason for Prophet pbuh him was sent in Arabian deserts for these illiterate and uncivilized Bedouins. Infact was sent in independent territories falling in the centre of the civilized regions of persia, rome, egypt and ethopia.

If he would have landed in any civilization like egypt or persia or rome, then everything would have been egyptainized or persianized or romanized. Islam al Misri Muhammad al Misri or irani or romani etc.

Persians persianized Cyrus while he was bakced by God and is stated in Quran. just like these illiterates arabized Islam and Islam al arabi, Muhammad al Arabi, there is no islam left behind in Arab and Quran confirms it. There is No Arab or Ajam in Islam as Islam claims to be universal. but there is now Arab League in Arabia and wither Islam.

no one can own Islam, if anyone does them Islam vanishes from there and shift to other as stated in Quran and Hadith. This is the proof that Islam belongs to God. It is powered by the oppressed people by the will of God.

That is the reason Islamic Revolution came in Iran and not in Arabia as Islam shifted to Iran. now these arabs are left only with monarchy sitting in usa pockets and satan is using them to spread terror across the globe. the Arabs people backed by the Islamic Revolution are the ones resisting the oppression imposed on them in every form and to these Allah swt promised victory like the one granted to Iranian and Lebanese people.

 

[alarabi]

For 30 years Ayatollahs Khomeinist have supported terrorists in the name of exporting their revolution to the surrounding countries. I don't think Khomeinist can start a real war against any country let alone against Saudi Arabia. Iran needs rational leaders to deal with its problematic Khomeinist before it gets worse then an inner effort will never matter. Arab and the world are fed up with the stupidity of the current leadership in Iran. I think Saudi Arabia under the rule of King Salman alongside Arab nation have taken serious steps to support Ahwaz and the Iranian opposition, King Abdullah tried to deal with Iran as a neighbor & Muslim country but what Iran did? Iran supported Hothies and interfered in every single Arab affairs. Farsi people need to understand that their so-called Khomeinist revolution will die in the cradle as it's born in it.
The average Iranians have suffered enough and they need a real change in the current regime more than anyone else.

 

[AmirPatriot]

So, i asked you before and ask you again, will you engage them in proxy wars for next 1000 years?

We will defend ourselves until they leave us alone or we defeat them.

For 30 years Ayatollahs Khomeinist have supported terrorists in the name of exporting their revolution to the surrounding countries. I don't think Khomeinist can start a real war against any country let alone against Saudi Arabia. Iran needs rational leaders to deal with its problematic Khomeinist before it gets worse then an inner effort will never matter. Arab and the world are fed up with the stupidity of the current leadership in Iran. I think Saudi Arabia under the rule of King Salman alongside Arab nation have taken serious steps to support Ahwaz and the Iranian opposition, King Abdullah tried to deal with Iran as a neighbor & Muslim country but what Iran did? Iran supported Hothies and interfered in every single Arab affairs. Farsi people need to understand that their so-called Khomeinist revolution will die in the cradle as it's born in it.
The average Iranians have suffered enough and they need a real change in the current regime more than anyone else.

Keep living in your fantasies... you call us terrorists yet you yourself are sympathising with wahhabi terrorists in Ahwaz, and MEK terrorists.