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Why India’s wealthy happily donate to god and govt but loathe helping needy and poor

lol. There was enough evidence to convince the entire Supreme court bench including the muslim judge on it. No one cares about a lone doubter in pdf.

Meanwhile in INdia,

why you consider your country always most innocent country of the world, i am not the only doubter most of indian muslims are doubter and you govt and your extremist terrorist organizations like RSS/BJP and others can pressurize/buy your SC to change their decisions in favor extremist Hindus, next time you will destroy Taj Mahal and Delhi Jamia Masjid and claims underneath these structures their were ancient Hindu temples or other artifacts were buried:p:;):enjoy:
 
There is no cure for suspicion. Its a form of mental illness known as Paranoid personality disorder.

Nowhere in the world does masjids have huge steps leading up to them. That architecture is very specific to Hindu temples, so draw your own conclusion.

flights-steps-courtyard-Jama-Masjid-Delhi.jpg
yeah yeah whatever, your life here on PDF will going to extremely short here and you're reported for insulting me
 
How come China is mocking India for this?Chinese are probably the most miser I have come across. Wont give a dime to anyone or even their close friends. Its kind of a chinese cultural thing isnt it?
 
yeah yeah whatever, your life here on PDF will going to extremely short here and you're reported for insulting me

When did I insult you ? I am commenting on those doubting Thomas and educating you about a real life disorder that causes one to be suspicious. Why did you feel it was a commentary on you ?
 
Banyas have been known in the indian history as very ruthless, they even used to snatch away wife of the debtor as security, i read a story in my high school as part of urdu literature where a muslim owed a money to the banya, the banya tortured him so much that he came out with a sowrd to kill him but was restrained by his neighbours, forgot the title of the story.

regards

I feed bad for the education system where you have studies such a racist profiling kind of history books....I know,you are good poster...But this observation is not unwarranted in this thread..

lol. Just ask Archaeologist KK Muhammad about it. :P

https://eurasiantimes.com/the-proof-of-ram-temple-at-ayodhya-that-you-may-have-missed/

No proof except an massive ancient inscription found below the masjid talking about the ram temple that stood there.

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Anyway this is off topic.



Bhai..let us use other thread to discuss this topic...
 
You give them too little credit.

They go one step further.


Here is the translation,

"forehead thermometer producers which has 178 members, "Produce some fake products and sell them to the US. They (thermometers) should read 36.5 ºC when the actual temperature is 39 ºC. In this way, more and more American people will be infected. Let's see if..

.they still have people left to go to other countries to harm others!" After one member sends three laughing emojis, Zhang continues to say, "Isn't that a great idea? Without using one single solider, we make money, as well as make peace for the world."

"No, we don't want to make money from Americans. Let them help and rely on themselves."



Yes, both statements are true.

Why did you feel its a commentary on you ? did the shoe fit ?

Tirumala-Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) to donate 50 Thousand food packets daily for labourers

https://www.thehansindia.com/andhra...e-50k-food-packets-daily-for-labourers-614444

In a major initiative to provide succour to the homeless and migrant labourers who have left in lurch with no food available due to the nationwide lockdown in the pilgrim city, the Tirumala-Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) decided to distribute food packets among the needy in the city.

TTD will pack 45,000 - 50,000 food packets – 30,000 packets in the morning and 20,000 in the evening.
Reported again
 
for continuously trolling/insulting other countries and nations

When did I insult other countries or nations ? I have only posted a conversation between two or three chinese businessmen.

People are free to draw their own conclusions.

Why do you want to keep your citizens in ignorance ? Let them see what I see and draw their own conclusion.
 
When did I insult other countries or nations ? I have only posted a conversation between two or three chinese businessmen.

People are free to draw their own conclusions.

Why do you want to keep your citizens in ignorance ? Let them see what I see and draw their own conclusion.
again reported, you continuously insulting China, that CHINA IS RESPONSIBLE TO CREATING THIS MESS/PANDEMIC, ANY COUNTRY WILL BE THEY EPICENTER OF ANY FUTURE EPIDEMIC
 
again reported, you continuously insulting China, that CHINA IS RESPONSIBLE TO CREATING THIS MESS/PANDEMIC, ANY COUNTRY WILL BE THEY EPICENTER OF ANY FUTURE EPIDEMIC

Of course china IS responsible for creating this pandemic. Is anybody in any doubt ?

Now they are trying to profit of this pandemic.

Meanwhile in India,

PayTM pledges Rs. 500 crores to fight this virus by donating to the PM Care Fund.

 
Of course china IS responsible for creating this pandemic. Is anybody in any doubt ?

Now they are trying to profit of this pandemic.
ANY VALID REASON, ANY PANDEMIC CAN OCCUR ANY PART OF THE WORLD ESPECIALLY 3RD WORLD COUNTRY INCLUDING INDIA, AND WHY YOU THINKS THAT CHINA DIDN'T LOST ANY OF CITIZEN'S LIFE AND SPEND BILLION OF $$$ IN RELIEF EFFORTS, AND WHICH COUNTRY WANTS TO CREATE/BRING PANDEMIC/CHAOS/PANIC TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY
AND YOUR LAST ARGUMENT IS JUST RETARD/RIDICULOUS, YOU'RE REALLY RETARD JESTER/CLOWN
 
Why India’s wealthy happily donate to god and govt but loathe helping needy and poor
Be it Amitabh Bachchan or Virat Kohli, India’s rich and famous are quick to lecture or follow PM Modi’s diktat. But selfless charity is missing among most Indians.
KAVEREE BAMZAI 28 March, 2020 12:30 pm IST

Modern world is facing its worst crisis in coronavirus pandemic and what are Indian celebrities doing? Well, many clapped and banged pots and pans on 22 March at 5 pm following Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s call, and filmed themselves while doing so. Others are showing us how to do dishes and clean the home, participating in mock celebrity bartan-jhadu-poncha (BJP) challenges. The rest of the world is trying to help find a cure for the deadly virus or providing monetary assistance to the poor or arranging equipment for medical workers, underlining yet again the generosity gap between other countries’ and India’s elite.

Tennis star Roger Federer donates $1.02 million to support the most vulnerable families in Switzerland during the coronavirus crisis; India’s former cricket captain Sourav Ganguly gives away Rs 50 lakh worth of rice in collaboration with the West Bengal-based company Lal Baba Rice, in what is clearly a sponsored, mutual brand-building exercise. Chinese billionaire Jack Ma donates one million face masks and 500,000 coronavirus testing kits to the United States, and pledged similar support for European and African countries; Amitabh Bachchan uses social media to spread half-baked information — such as ‘flies spread coronavirus’ — and wonders if the clanging of pots, pans and thalis defeats the potency of the virus because it was Amavasya on 22 March (he later deleted the tweet).


Hollywood’s golden couple Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds announce they will donate $1 million to Feeding America and Food Banks Canada that work for low-income families and the elderly; while Indian cricket and Bollywood’s beautiful match Virat Kohli and Anushka Sharma get into familiar lecture mode, asking everyone to “stay home and stay safe”. This follows Anushka Sharma’s earlier run-in with a ‘luxury car’ passenger where she ticked him off for violating PM Modi’s diktat of Swachh Bharat.

Where the rich are charitably poor
What makes rich and famous Indians so quick to lecture, especially on issues in congruence with government initiatives, but so loathe to help the poor desperately in need? The 2010 Giving Pledge by Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, to which five wealthy Indians are signatories, was meant to give a gigantic push to philanthropy worldwide. This was followed by India’s then minister of corporate affairs Sachin Pilot making it legally mandatory for companies to put aside charity funds for Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) projects, making India the first country in the world to pass such a legislation. This year, an attempt to criminalise non-compliance was eventually softened after an uproar from corporates.

Philanthropy is up. According to Bain and Company’s annual Philanthropy Report 2020, domestic philanthropic funding has rapidly grown from approximately Rs 12,500 crore in 2010 to approximately Rs 55,000 crore in 2018. Contributions by individual philanthropists have also recorded strong growth in the past decade. In 2010, individual contributions accounted for 26 per cent of private funding, and as of 2018, individuals contribute about 60 per cent of the total private funding in India, estimated at approximately Rs 43,000 crore.

But in a prophetic warning, the report underscored the need for philanthropy ”to now consciously focus on India’s most vulnerable” and called for targeted action for the large population caught in a vicious cycle of vulnerability — precisely those worst hit by the coronavirus pandemic.


“The disadvantaged,” it said, “are unable to adapt to unpredictable situations that can push them deeper into vulnerability, such as climate change, economic risks and socio-political threats.” Even Azim Premji, who recently made news by committing 34 per cent of his company’s shares — worth $7.5 billion or Rs 52,750 crore — to his continuing cause, the public schooling system in India, has not set aside anything specific for those affected by the coronavirus. India’s second-richest man was the first Indian to sign The Giving Pledge.

Vaishali Nigam Sinha, Chief Sustainability Officer at Renew Power, started charity a few years ago to promote giving. Her experience has been less than happy. Indians, she finds, have refrained from planned giving for broader societal transformation. “Giving is individualistic and not driven via networks, which can be quite effective as we have seen in other parts of the world like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. And in India, giving is usually done to get something back – to god for prosperity, to religious affiliations for advocacy of these platforms, and to government for business returns. Wealthy Indians need to learn to give in a planned way for greater social impact and transformation,” she says.

Little surprise then that India was ranked 124 in World Giving Index 2018 — and placed 82 in the 10th edition of the index compiled by Charities Aid Foundation looking at the data for 128 countries over the 10-year period.

All of us are in the same boat
But it’s not about celebrities or wealthy Indians alone. We are all in it together. Special planes are sent to bring back Indians stuck abroad due to the pandemic, but labourers and daily wage workers are left to walk hundreds of kilometres to reach their villages. Doctors treating coronavirus patients will be applauded but not allowed to enter their homes.

JNU sociologist Maitrayee Chaudhuri calls it a potent mix of selfishness, self care and entitlement. ”We have a complete disregard for people on the margins and on whose labour we sit. It is all about us and our safety,” she says. This communal selfishness is very different from the churning in the 19th and early 20th century, which led to enormous social reform movements. The slow and meticulous destruction of ‘secularism’, ‘socialism’ and ‘liberalism’ has helped. As has the rise of neoliberal ‘individual self centredness’. “Not to talk about smartphone dumbness,” she adds. There is an absence of empathy everywhere, filled instead with the noise of thalis being banged and bells being rung to show symbolic gratitude to those who serve us.

The examples of those who are giving are few and far in between. There is comedian Kapil Sharma, who is giving Rs 50 lakh to the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund and southern superstars Pawan Kalyan, Ram Charan and Rajinikanth. But in general, our stars have chosen to share very little. Former cricket captain M.S. Dhoni, for instance, has been reported to have donated Rs 1 lakh to a charity trust in Pune, which led to some criticism and a counter from his wife Sakshi, even though it wasn’t immediately clear which incident she was alluding to.

India Inc hasn’t fared much better either. When PM Modi asked everyone to show their support for health workers fighting coronavirus by applauding them, one of the country’s most proactive industrialists was among the first to tweet his support, and also one of the first to be trolled for it. He quickly responded by offering to manufacture ventilators, among other things. Reliance is reportedly donating a hospital for coronavirus patients, weeks after Isha Ambani had hosted a Holi party on 7 March — when the number of coronavirus cases had rapidly begun to rise. Her mother, after all, is the queen of giving, contributing to an array of eclectic causes, and has been honoured for it by getting elected to the board of New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art in 2019 or by becoming the first Indian woman in 2016 to be elected to the International Olympic Committee for supporting the sporting dreams of seven million Indian children.

But for India’s corporate class, it took a nudge from the Principal Scientific Adviser K. VijayRaghavan to remind them that healthcare and preventive healthcare are covered under Schedule VII of the Companies Act: “Hence supporting any project or programme for preventing or controlling or managing COVID19 is legitimate CSR (CSR) expenditure.” He also quickly got an office memorandum issued by the Ministry of Corporate Affairs a day later.

All of us are in the same boat
But it’s not about celebrities or wealthy Indians alone. We are all in it together. Special planes are sent to bring back Indians stuck abroad due to the pandemic, but labourers and daily wage workers are left to walk hundreds of kilometres to reach their villages. Doctors treating coronavirus patients will be applauded but not allowed to enter their homes.

JNU sociologist Maitrayee Chaudhuri calls it a potent mix of selfishness, self care and entitlement. ”We have a complete disregard for people on the margins and on whose labour we sit. It is all about us and our safety,” she says. This communal selfishness is very different from the churning in the 19th and early 20th century, which led to enormous social reform movements. The slow and meticulous destruction of ‘secularism’, ‘socialism’ and ‘liberalism’ has helped. As has the rise of neoliberal ‘individual self centredness’. “Not to talk about smartphone dumbness,” she adds. There is an absence of empathy everywhere, filled instead with the noise of thalis being banged and bells being rung to show symbolic gratitude to those who serve us.

The examples of those who are giving are few and far in between. There is comedian Kapil Sharma, who is giving Rs 50 lakh to the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund and southern superstars Pawan Kalyan, Ram Charan and Rajinikanth. But in general, our stars have chosen to share very little. Former cricket captain M.S. Dhoni, for instance, has been reported to have donated Rs 1 lakh to a charity trust in Pune, which led to some criticism and a counter from his wife Sakshi, even though it wasn’t immediately clear which incident she was alluding to.

India Inc hasn’t fared much better either. When PM Modi asked everyone to show their support for health workers fighting coronavirus by applauding them, one of the country’s most proactive industrialists was among the first to tweet his support, and also one of the first to be trolled for it. He quickly responded by offering to manufacture ventilators, among other things. Reliance is reportedly donating a hospital for coronavirus patients, weeks after Isha Ambani had hosted a Holi party on 7 March — when the number of coronavirus cases had rapidly begun to rise. Her mother, after all, is the queen of giving, contributing to an array of eclectic causes, and has been honoured for it by getting elected to the board of New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art in 2019 or by becoming the first Indian woman in 2016 to be elected to the International Olympic Committee for supporting the sporting dreams of seven million Indian children.

But for India’s corporate class, it took a nudge from the Principal Scientific Adviser K. VijayRaghavan to remind them that healthcare and preventive healthcare are covered under Schedule VII of the Companies Act: “Hence supporting any project or programme for preventing or controlling or managing COVID19 is legitimate CSR (CSR) expenditure.” He also quickly got an office memorandum issued by the Ministry of Corporate Affairs a day later.

Indian philanthropy isn’t secular
In India, the twain of religious giving and secular funding has not met. Management expert Nirmalya Kumar calls it a sensitive subject and says it is related to the philosophical concept underlying Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism that believe in reincarnation. “Our soul starts life again in a different physical form based on the karma of previous lives. As such, as has been sometimes articulated to me, the lack of charity is an unwillingness to interfere with the consequences that God has determined appropriate. Who am I to come in between the person and their God?”

But the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) is traditionally known for engaging in social seva (not just swayam seva , or self service), evidenced by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)’s decision to feed five crore people during the 21-day lockdown. Sikhism has a well-developed tradition of Guru ka langar, and it was on full display at Shaheen Bagh when ordinary Sikhs served food to people protesting against the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and the National Register of Citizens (NRC).

Some business families also do philanthropic work, among them the Nilekanis, the Murtys and the older Bharatrams (their founder Lala Shri Ram founded Delhi Cloth Mills and set up several educational institutes like Shri Ram College of Commerce and Lady Shri Ram College). Radhika Bharatram, joint vice chairperson, The Shri Ram Schools, recalls growing up in a middle class, progressive home where her sister and she were encouraged to volunteer at the Cheshire Home and Mother Teresa Home. Marriage, she says, brought her into a home where making contributions to society was in the family’s DNA and she is now involved as a volunteer with organisations such as Delhi Crafts Council, Blind Relief Association, SRF Foundation, the CII Foundation Woman Exemplar Programme, and Cancer Awareness Prevention and Early Detection. What drives her is empathy: When “you come from a position of privilege, there is joy in making a difference to someone else’s life”. She says it motivates her when the purpose is greater than the individual.

Unfortunately, the middle class and the elites have tended to keep self interest above public interest. In the new world after the coronavirus pandemic, this is one attitude it must change.

https://theprint.in/opinion/india-wealthy-happily-donate-god-govt-loathe-helping-needy-poor/390206/

You do realize China is one of the least Charitable countries in the world. India fares much better in that, despite low GDP.

Commies might donate $1 M and make propaganda about it worth $2 M.
 
again reported, you continuously insulting China, that CHINA IS RESPONSIBLE TO CREATING THIS MESS/PANDEMIC, ANY COUNTRY WILL BE THEY EPICENTER OF ANY FUTURE EPIDEMIC
SARS, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Covid-19 and latest Hanta Virus (Google it) have all originated in China in the last 10-15 years. Once may be nothing, twice a coincidence, thrice is a pattern and now it is a certainity. Google Wet Markets of China to know how the virus spreads from animals to humans and from China to across the world.
 
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