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Why India's response to Pathankot attack was 'a debacle'

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  • 6 January 2016
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Image captionIndian forces have been searching the base for remnants of the group that attacked it


It took Indian authorities four days to put down a deadly attack on the Pathankot air force base near the Pakistani border which killed seven Indian soldiers and wounded another 22. The inept handling of the security operation can only be described as a debacle, writes defence analyst Rahul Bedi.

According to official accounts, the National Security Adviser Ajit Doval had advance intelligence of the planned attack on 1 January.

But military analysts said India's response to the attack was amateurish - there were inadequate offensive measures and the multiplicity of forces involved and a lack of suitable equipment rendered the entire operation a near fiasco.

When the attack began, Mr Doval chose to airlift some 150 National Security Guard (NSG) personnel from their base at Manesar, on Delhi's outskirts, to fight in an unfamiliar terrain.

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Image captionIndia's National Security Guard headed the counter-strike operation at Pathankot

The operational command for the mission was handed over to the NSG, the Defence Service Corps (DSC) and the air force's Garud Special Forces.

The DSC comprises retired and unmotivated military personnel, whilst the Garuds continue to struggle for operational relevance amongst the plethora of India's burgeoning Special Forces.

In what appeared to be an obvious desire to control the operation, Mr Doval ignored the presence of some 50,000 army troops in the Pathankot region, possibly the highest such concentration in the country.


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Reports said he requested the army chief for just two columns - 50-60 troops - to provide back-up support to the operation.

The army, say security officials, is experienced in battling Kashmiri insurgents.

The NSG, for its part, was unacquainted with the terrain and took avoidable losses that included Lieutenant-Colonel Niranjan Kumar being killed in a grenade explosion from a booby trapped militant's body.


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Image captionDefence Minister Manohar Parrikar admitted that there were "some gaps in the operations"

Four other NSG personnel were injured in this blast that - in all probability - would not have fooled the army, familiar with such militant ploys of activating a grenade and lying on it as a last offensive act.

The NSG is also strapped for equipment - it has no competent night vision devices and other materiel necessary for an operation of the kind in Pathankot - military sources said.

Throughout the four days the operation lasted, the army was accorded a marginal role - although some 200 soldiers were eventually deployed when fighting stretched beyond 48 hours and after senior ministers - including Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Home Minister Rajnath Singh and Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar - had announced that the operation had been completed successfully.

The congratulatory messages followed the gunning down of four terrorists, but thereafter firing began afresh, and confusion prevailed over how many gunmen were hiding in the tall grass surrounding the air base, spread over some 1,200 hectares.


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Image captionNSG Lt-Col Niranjan Kumar was killed in a grenade explosion from a booby trapped militant's body

Sporadic gunfire, interspersed with grenade explosions, could be heard from inside the base until late on Monday night, security sources said, but they seemed unsure of the ground situation prevailing inside.

"Operations to eliminate the militants are in the final stages," deputy NSG commandant Major-General Dushyant Singh said on Monday afternoon.

On Tuesday, Defence Minister Parrikar told a press conference that "six militants have been neutralised" but added that sanitising the complex is likely to take a long time.

"I see some gaps in the operations, but I don't think we compromised on security," he said.

Analysts said the operational blunders committed by Indian security forces during the November 2008 militant attack on Mumbai, in which 166 people died, were mindlessly repeated in Pathankot due to a lack of well defined procedures.

Initially in Mumbai, the local police force was deployed against the 10 gunmen.

They were later replaced by the Indian Navy's Marine Commandoes (MARCOS) Special Forces.


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Image captionThe Pathankot air force base extends over about 1,200 hectares

Army commandos then swapped roles with the MARCOS at the three attack venues in Mumbai - two hotels and a Jewish cultural centre.

The army was eventually substituted by the NSG, which took nearly 12 hours to reach Mumbai.

"The assortment of security agencies involved in the Pathankot operation, without a single, effective point of control, adversely [affected] the outcome," military analyst retired Maj-Gen Sheru Thapliyal said.

"Four days to neutralise no more than five or six militants is unacceptable in a confined open space where there is little or no scope of any civilian collateral damage," he added.

It appears the one upside of the entire operation was that the security forces were able to prevent the militants from sabotaging any air force "assets" - like Mig-21 fighters and attack helicopters.

Why India's response to Pathankot attack was 'a debacle' - BBC News
 
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Zero civilian casualties,Zero material lost while the are of the base is 27 sq KM,there were Pilots from 6 different countries and 2000 ~ families in the base,it would've been a disaster or a General massacre apart from Billions of Dollar lost,if the terrorists weren't marooned by the security forces.

Civilians,Aircrafts All safe and sound.
 
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Zero civilian casualties,Zero material lost while the are of the base is 27 sq KM,there were Pilots from 6 different countries and 2000 ~ families in the base,it would've been a disaster or a General massacre apart from Billions of Dollar lost,if the terrorists weren't marooned by the security forces.

Civilians,Aircrafts All safe and sound.
So all is hunky dorry isn't it, who cares they attacked and it took 4 days to stop them and kill several servicemen in the process :what:
 
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When the attack began, Mr Doval chose to airlift some 150 National Security Guard (NSG) personnel from their base at Manesar, on Delhi's outskirts, to fight in an unfamiliar terrain.

Presstitutes Trying too Hard ?

#1. NSG is actually ex Army !
NSG has a special forces mandate, and its core operational capability is provided by the Special Action Group (SAG) which is drawn from the Indian Army.

#2. NSG is Actually Specificcaly Trained for such Ops.

The NSG's is trained to conduct counter terrorist task to including counter hijacking tasks on land, sea, and air; Bomb disposal (search, detection and neutralization of IEDs); PBI (Post Blast Investigation) and Hostage Rescue missions.

Army is NOT trained for the Underlined.


#3, NO/ZERO Details are out , Then what is the basis of this analysis ?
 
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So all is hunky dorry isn't it, who cares they attacked and it took 4 days to stop them and kill several servicemen in the process :what:
You are saying,as if there are 100 of terrorist attack on Indian Air bases,it was the first attack of its kind,it's not several servicemen,few were unarmed when they were trapped in kitchen area,total casualty 7.

And the encounter went on for 30 ~ hours,including the arrival of Garud Commandoes,the last 36 hours was basically a scrutiny and Combing.

So what do think a successful operation, killing of 20 plus servicemen plus billions of military hardware destroyed in few hours,is this an achievement of Security forces or a Pathetic Failure ?
 
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So all is hunky dorry isn't it, who cares they attacked and it took 4 days to stop them and kill several servicemen in the process :what:
Well, seems the real experts are occupied in online forums while the amateurs work for the likes of BBC.

Didnt see it coming from a guy who is dubbed as a master planner.
As the saying goes, boards don't hit back but bullets kill......the real test comes when the bullets are flying.
 
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Well, seems the real experts are occupied in online forums while the amateurs work for the likes of BBC.

Says an armchair General who made childish conspiracy theory threads,virtually putting every international media and G5 nations to shame,who are condemning it as a terror incident.


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So,the childish thready has been closed by Mods,good riddance.
 
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I don't think anyway in hell would the Indian disclose if any assets were damaged
 
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When the attack began, Mr Doval chose to airlift some 150 National Security Guard (NSG) personnel from their base at Manesar, on Delhi's outskirts, to fight in an unfamiliar terrain.

This is what happens when people who can't differentiate between INSAS and SLR start writing judgements on military ops-

NSG is trained for unfamiliar terrain-

I don't think anyway in hell would the Indian disclose if any assets were damaged

Its not like Pakistan here- the Military and Govt- is accountable-
 
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I find them similar, both involve attack on a military installation.

In both cases, Militants I think had similar objectives.

We here are discussing the counter-terrorism role- tell me how fair is It to compare a dedicated counter terrorism force (NSG) with Pakistan Army or SSG ?

Also militants here were far better trained as they did operation in foreign territory- with poor logistic support-
 
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You are saying,as if there are 100 of terrorist attack on Indian Air bases,it was the first attack of its kind,it's not several servicemen,few were unarmed when they were trapped in kitchen area,total casualty 7.

And the encounter went on for 30 ~ hours,including the arrival of Garud Commandoes,the last 36 hours was basically a scrutiny and Combing.

So what do think a successful operation, killing of 20 plus servicemen plus billions of military hardware destroyed in few hours,is this an achievement of Security forces or a Pathetic Failure ?
What you are referring to is not an achievement of the security forces, and I admit that the op didn't achieve the aim the terrorists intended but you have to admit that your forces were unprepared for such an attack, I mean a cop's car was hijacked, used in an attack and the attackers fought in a firefight that lasted days, one of your special forces officers was martyred because of improper handling of unexplored ordinance by a soldier, I am not trying to start a shit slinging contest here but let's call it what it is, your military was not prepared for it hopefully in the future they will not allow such incidents to occur.

Is there any comparison between a Horse and a Donkey ?- Why do you invite trolling- not expected from
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It's not a troll bait, calling the op what it is, your military was not prepared for it especially initially when there was a lot of confusion, it's a good thing that later sanity prevailed and the matter met a swift end
 
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What you are referring to is not an achievement of the security forces, and I admit that the op didn't achieve the aim the terrorists intended but you have to admit that your forces were unprepared for such an attack, I mean a cop's car was hijacked, used in an attack and the attackers fought in a firefight that lasted days, one of your special forces officers was martyred because of improper handling of unexplored ordinance by a soldier, I am not trying to start a shit slinging contest here but let's call it what it is, your military was not prepared for it hopefully in the future they will not allow such incidents to occur.

NSG bomb squad officer is killed in IED blast which was boody traped on terrorist body

Second combat op lasted only for 27 hours

Combing operation took three days
Combing op include neutralize IEDs ,search op etc scanning every inch of 27 KM base
 
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