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Why Indians are supporting Israel? when their own Leader Mahatma Gandhi was in favour of Palestine.

Well I have seen many Indians on this forum which are in favour of Israel, except for few. So I am posting this article "The Jews in Palestine" by Mahatma Ghandhi Published in 26-11-1938
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Several letters have been received by me, asking me to declare my views about the Arab-Jew question in Palestine and the persecution of the Jews in Germany. It is not without hesitation that I venture to offer my views on this very difficult question.

My sympathies are all with the Jews. I have known them intimately in South Africa. Some of them became lifelong companions. Through these friends I came to learn much of their age long persecution. They have been the untouchables of Christianity. The parallel between their treatment by Christians and the treatment of untouchables by Hindus is very close.

Religious sanction has been invoked in both cases for the justification of the inhuman treatment meted out to them. Apart from the friendships, therefore, there is the more common universal reason for my sympathy for the Jews. But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice.

The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after return to Palestine.

Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood? Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home. The nobler course would be to insist on a just treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred. The Jews born in France are French in precisely the same sense that Christians born in France are French.

If the Jews have no home but Palestine, will they relish the idea of being forced to leave the other parts of the world in which they are settled? Or do they want a double home where they can remain at will? This cry for the national home affords a colorable justification for the German expulsion of the Jews. But the German persecution of the Jews seems to have no parallel in history. The tyrants of old never went so mad as Hitler seems to have gone. And he is doing it with religious zeal. For, he is propounding a new religion of exclusive and militant nationalism in the name of which any inhumanity becomes an act of humanity to be rewarded here and hereafter.

The crime of an obviously mad but intrepid youth is being visited upon his wholerace with unbelievable ferocity. If there ever could be a justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against Germany to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be completely justified. But I do not believe in any war. A discussion of the pros and cons of such a war is, therefore, outside my horizon or province.

But if there can be no war against Germany, even for such a crime as is being committed against the Jews, surely there can be no alliance with Germany. How can there be alliance between a nation, which claims to stand for justice and democracy and one, which is the declared enemy of both? Or is England drifting towards armed dictatorship and all it means?

Germany is showing to the world how efficiently violence can be worked when it is not hampered by any hypocrisy or weakness masquerading as humanitarianism.It is also showing how hideous, terrible and terrifying it looks in its nakedness.Can the Jews resist this organized and shameless persecution? Is there a way to preserve their self-respect, and not to feel helpless, neglected and forlorn? I submit there is. No person who has faith in a living God need feel helpless or forlorn. Jehovah of the Jews is a God more personal than the God of the Christians, the Mussalmans or the Hindus, though as a matter of fact, in essence, He is common to all and one without a second and beyond description. But as the Jews attribute personality to God and believe that He rules every action of theirs, they ought not to feel helpless.

If I were a Jew and were born in Germany and earned my livelihood there, I would claim Germany as my home even as the tallest gentile German might, and challenge him to shoot me or cast me in the dungeon; I would refuse to be expelled or to submit to discriminating treatment. And for doing this I should not wait for! the fellow Jews to join me in civil resistance, but would have confidence that in the end the rest were bound to follow my example....

And now a word to the Jews in Palestine. I have no doubt that they are going about it in the wrong way. The Palestine of the Biblical conception is not a geographical tract. It is in their hearts. But if they must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs. They should seek to convert the Arab heart.

The same God rules the Arab heart who rules the Jewish heart... They will find the world opinion in their favor in their religious aspiration. There are hundreds of ways of reasoning with the Arabs, if they will only discard the help of the British bayonet. As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regarded as an unwarrantable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds.

Let the Jews who claim to be the chosen race prove their title by choosing the way of non-violence for vindicating their position on earth. Every country is their home, including Palestine, not by aggression but by loving service. A Jewish friend has sent me a book called The Jewish Contribution to Civilization by Cecil Roth. It gives a record of what the Jews have done to enrich the world's literature, art, music, drama, science, medicine, agriculture, etc. Given the will, the Jew can refuse to be treated as the outcast of the West, to be despised or patronized. He can command the attention and respect of the world by being the chosen creation of God, instead of sinking to the brute who is forsaken by God. They can add to their many contributions the surpassing contribution of non-violent action.

The Jews In Palestine By Mahatma Gandhi
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So I would like to know, Indians? why are you supporting Israel? :rofl: o_O

Well I support Israle on the way they retaliate when one of their citizen is killed, unlike pussy Indian government that lets foregin fed terrorists kill its citizens and does nothing but cries out and used diplomatic means....at times you have to teach the enemey a strong lesson by killing a few of theirs so that they realize that it hurts.

And about Gandhi... he was a pussy too....and a good for nothing father to his own childern.... he is only famed as father of nation because Congress lead by nehru came to power first in Indipendent India....
 
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I am also shocked with the level of respect they give to their supposed "father of the nation" :sarcastic:
You will keep getting these shocks because the ground reality is different.

Our country is not dumb to support anything under the sun when everything else has changed.
 
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Both india and israel are terrorist countries.
not everything is black and whic
Ghandi was creep and did sexual experments on teenage girls from his family, but he have earned little bit of respect for supporting Palestine.
Just like you are dilly dallying around Gandhi, we have similar feelings towards Israel. Sometime we feel sympathetic because they live in hostile neighbourhood and other times we abhor their aggressive reprisals.
 
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He could have and should have done many things which he was able to do. In stead he did many things that he should not have done (Netaji episode for example). But for tonight, let's give the old man little rest.
Dead man :)

Israel's method of retaliation is counter-productive - coming from a Pro Israel Hindutvadi Indian. Indians don't care about the conflict. We are neither for nor against on a diplomatic level. On a humanitarian level we are saddened by the innocents killed on all sides.

@levina - How diplomatic is this? :D Oh wait, you don't love Gandhi. :o:
 
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you many be living among curry munchers or in slums in other countries, that is the reason why people may be calling you slum dog or curry munchers. but wherever i go people hear me. it depends on what kind of people surrounds you, you will be associated with those

Perfect example of "Grapes are sour"
 
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Dead man :)

Israel's method of retaliation is counter-productive - coming from a Pro Israel Hindutvadi Indian. Indians don't care about the conflict. We are neither for nor against on a diplomatic level. On a humanitarian level we are saddened by the innocents killed on all sides.
Sounds exactly like a true BJP Politician today :enjoy:
 
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In the Quran, Allah himself say's that the nation of Israel is the promised land of the Jews..
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Map of Israel: 1020 BCE–930 BCE

THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS
AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS


THE QUR'AN SAYS:

"To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'"

"Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

"We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning."

[Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]​

SHAYKH PROF. PALAZZI COMMENTS:

God wanted to give Avraham a double blessing, through Ishmael and through Isaac, and ordered that Ishmael's descendents should live in the desert of Arabia and Isaac's in Canaan.

The Qur'an recognizes the Land of Israel as the heritage of the Jews and it explains that, before the Last Judgment, Jews will return to dwell there. This prophecy has already been fulfilled.
 
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Sounds exactly like a true BJP Politician :enjoy:

But true. Unlike earlier israeli-palestinian conflicts, this comes at a time when we have seen conflict pretty much all over the middle east and even eastern europe. Difficult to argue that this is different , meriting outrage selectively. Indians have become more Insular in their views, a influential section - a very large one, is simply not interested in india poking its nose in many issues when they dont directly concern us.

The israeli palestinian issue is a terrible conflict where however much we can rationalise Israel's actions, there is almost no way to make peace with the deaths of so many civilians, especially women and children. What we are doing is simply looking away. Maybe non-moral but very pragmatic. This is a continuation of india's evolution from being a preachy, moral lecturing state to one where the only interests we really care about, are our own.
 
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They are supporting Israel because Pakistani are supporting Palestine and it actually burn them why we are supporting other Muslims belong to different race :rofl:
Lol u support every other Muslim in this world even if he had done shit in front of his neneighbours door steps... U Hippocrates
 
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Dead man :)

Israel's method of retaliation is counter-productive - coming from a Pro Israel Hindutvadi Indian. Indians don't care about the conflict. We are neither for nor against on a diplomatic level. On a humanitarian level we are saddened by the innocents killed on all sides.

We Supported PLO and their peaceful actions and have full support to suffering INNOCENTS any where in world.
 
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Poor Mahatama Gandhi getting based from right left and centre from his own country men, I am enjoying it bring it more indians :smokin:
 
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