we have much high life expectancy, far better education systems, women are treated equally as men.
trust me, there is no civil liberties for your female family members at all, can I just ask your mum/grandmum's education background and occupation? are they allowed to drink/smoke? how they married your father/grandfather? family arranged marriage?
I have seen so many young Indians getting married to those who they don't love or even know. I have met so many female Indians telling me the unfair treatment they received in India. The UN literacy survey clearly shows half of your female citizens couldn't read/write.
now you want to discuss civil liberties with me?
thanks, but you are not qualified - I grow up in Shanghai, the city which is famous for its female's liberties.
SHC - This is where I start losing you...
"are they allowed to drink/smoke?"...yes they are allowed all that even thoh your good Saudi friends might not allow the same...but pleez dont use these stupid arguements...now u will say are they allowed to smoke pot...well damn no..thats probably NOT allowed even in Amsterdam...
To your point of women rights..yes..things have improved a lot.
Well women didnt have it all good...in ANY society till recent times leave alone India...Pakistan lags much behind India in that respect.
An article below shos people improve/change over time..just like China did...it does not make China GREAT in the same way as it does mean tomorrow SAUDI ARABIA wont become a secular and women run society....things change...its a cycle...
Women in China
by Rit Nosotro
Change Over Time essay
From the age of foot binding through the communism of today, the role and rights of women have undergone drastic transformation in China. What has been the result of the communist revolution for women?
For centuries before the early 1900's, there was a prominent male domination in the country of China. Women were deprived of all rights and were present mainly to serve men. Women served as slaves, concubines, and prostitutes. Marriages were arranged, sometimes preparing a female from infancy to serve her future husband. This can be seen most effectively by the practice of foot binding. Beginning around the eleventh century, foot binding became a tradition. When a girl became three or four years of age her mother would tightly wrap her daughter's feet in bandages with her toes tucked under the soles. On top of this excruciating pain, the bandages would be tightened each day. If a woman's feet weren't bound she was considered unsuitable for marriage. In fact, it was preferred that the foot be around 3 inches in length.
The gruesome foot binding process as well as the other harsh treatment toward women in China continued for centuries until the demands by the nationalists of the 1920's called for women's rights. The Nationalist forces were not able to win against both the invading Japanese and the Communist army. Ironically, it was left to Mao Tse-Tsung and the Communist Party to formally outlaw many of the old Chinese laws and traditions. The practice of foot binding had become almost obsolete by the time he took power 1949. He believed that by forcing gender equality he could make China a world power. Although he persecuted Christians and mandated policies that lead to millions of deaths, he did lift shift the oppression of Chinese women from producing for the home to the producing for the state. Husbands were not allowed to abusing their wives, have concubines, or use prostitutes. Marriages could no longer be arranged, wives with unbound feet were encouraged, and divorce was made easier to obtain. Both sexes were forced to wear the same gender neutral padded clothing. These changes initially gave females an increasing sense of self-confidence as they were encouraged to join the work force, become a communist official, and pursue educational opportunities. This indeed was in stark contrast to centuries of being less than second class citizens. Women willingly followed Mao in 1958 with his provision of daycare and soup kitchens to push the patriotic "iron woman" into longer work hours for the benefit of the nation. Unfortunately, this national brainwashing of the "Great Leap Forward" led to the starvation of millions.
What have been the longer term results of dictator enforced equity? Do women today walk the streets of China with pride as they go to work in a variety of places? By law, women have equality in education, marriage, rights, and freedom. However, while there have been many improvements to women's roles in China, there are still some laws that have been ignored. The most insidious violation regards infanticide of female babies. Although killing a newborn child is illegal, killing the child before birth is promoted. Since 1997, hundreds of "mobile abortion clinics", complete with body clamps to hold down Women doing something "voluntarily", have been made to take abortion to the remote countryside.
With the availability of ultrasound and enforcement of the one child policy, China has an unnatural ratio of about 118 males to 100 females due to a half a million sex-specific abortions every year. The reasoning follows since males still have the greatest earning power in the workforce. With these earnings, and a decrease in available females, the abduction and sale of teenage girls is on the rise. Human Rights groups estimate hundreds of thousands of girls have been sold into prostitution and $500 mail-order brides since the economic boom of the late 1980s.
From the cruelties of foot binding to state coerced family planning, women have been played as pawns of the male dominated state. The function of women's literacy and workforce equality has been to improve communist state. It is for the reader to decide if these dramatic changes are cause for the Chinese woman to hold her head with pride in what her nation has done for her status.
Now, as this is a common problem for all of us, we need to WORK TOGETHER to solve it. 
The reasons come off as 'harsh', but that is because many members here are unfamiliar with these facts.
