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For over quarter of a century, Pakistan’s undeclared war on India has centred on two pillars. The first is export of terror. The second is nuclear sabre-rattling. The strategic calculus of the Pakistanis is simple.

The terrorists are pushed into India without any fear of a similar pushback from India. This is so because unlike Pakistan, India doesn’t use terrorists as an instrument of state policy. India’s capacity to hit back using its conventional superiority has been severely constrained by the second pillar of Pakistani policy — nuclear weapons.

Defensive mode

As a result, India has been pushed into a defensive mode. Instead of striking at the terror facilities inside Azad Kashmir, India has been forced to beef up its defences to prevent infiltration of terrorists. Pakistan, on the other hand, has been able to make do with a much smaller number of troops along the LoC, secure in the belief that there will neither be any terrorists coming from the Indian side, nor will India dare to launch a major punitive expedition because of the nuclear threat hanging over its head. At worst, the Indian Army could launch a retaliatory tactical level shallow raid across the LoC, something that has been done on a few occasions in the past 25 years when the provocation by Pakistan crossed the limits of tolerance.

The Pakistani calculus, which worked well for them in the past, could now, however, be in danger of being upended by India. In recent months, two developments suggest that the twin pillars of Pakistani policy might be starting to come under a lot of pressure. The first development was the declared cross-LoC raid carried out by the Indian Army in retaliation for an ambush of an Indian patrol party. While such retaliatory raids had been carried out in the past, they were never declared. But ever since the "Surgical Strikes" in September 2016, India now openly declares these raids. This complicates matters for the Pakistan army which is confronted with a dilemma on how to respond to these declared raids.

As long as India kept quiet about these raids, the Pakistan army could pretend nothing happened. But once these are declared, the Pakistanis can either deny they happened, or else will have to respond. Both options entail risks. Denying means giving India a virtual licence to keep doing these raids; responding, however, means going up the escalation ladder, which is a dangerous proposition especially if India decides it will control escalation dominance. More than deciding whether to deny or respond, what would be rattling the Pakistanis is whether or not such raids are going to become the new normal for the Indian side.

At a time when the Pakistan army is already stretched because of its security commitments on the troubled western front where the Pakistani Taliban are down but not out, and also the involvement of troops in internal security duties against terrorist cells, the last thing the Pakistan army needs is a hot eastern front. India has been steadily ratcheting up the pressure by retaliating very strongly to ceasefire violations by the Pakistanis, something that has inflicted a lot of pain and raised the costs for the Pakistanis.

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Cross-border raids

If now India also starts making cross-border raids a normal feature of its policy of punishing Pakistan, then the latter will have to plug the gaps in its deployments by pulling out troops from internal security duties and from the western front, which in turn will create gaps there and create space for the Pakistani Taliban to re-establish themselves in areas from which the Pakistani troops pull out.

Relations with Pakistan have been going south since the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai. Despite that, India let go of the opportunity offered by the wave of terrorist violence that hit Pakistan from 2007. By heating up Pakistan's eastern front, India could have easily caught Islamabad in a pincer. But the spike in Pakistan-sponsored terrorist violence in J&K since 2016 has all but broken the wall of India’s patience.

The second development is that India is now no longer ready to be cowed down by Pakistan's nuclear sabre-rattling. Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat has made it clear that if given a task by the government, India will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff and cross the border (presumably he means something more than a mere foray across the LoC). This statement has rattled the Pakistanis who reacted somewhat hysterically. A senior military official is quoted as saying the Army chief’s statement was “unwarranted and irrational”.

Irrational game

That Pakistan has played the "irrational" game for so long by threatening a nuclear attack was something that clearly escaped this unnamed official. Since rationality is a subjective thing, irrationality is a game two can play. This became clear when even the Pakistani foreign minister, who along with other politicians has often bandied the nuclear threat at India, called Gen Rawat’s statement “very irresponsible”.

While the Pakistanis have dared India to try Pakistan’s resolve, they know that if what Gen Rawat said is now Indian policy, then it signals the end of deterrence as conceived by them. In the words of the Pakistan military spokesman, the only thing that had stopped India for so long was Pakistan's "credible nuclear deterrence". But if India no longer considers Pakistani nuclear threats credible, then what happens to Pakistan's deterrence doctrine?

The fact that India has already injected some ambiguity in its "no first use" posture with senior officials claiming in interviews and in their books that India would not allow Pakistan to strike first with nuclear weapons (which effectively means pre-empting Pakistan’s use of nuclear weapons), certainly complicates Pakistan’s strategic calculus which has been built on bleeding India through proxy warfare from behind the safety of its nuclear shield.

It is possible that India is merely playing mind games with the Pakistanis. Even if this is the case, given that cross-LoC raids have been declared, coupled with the Modi government’s ability and capacity for taking risks, means that the Pakistanis will have to go back to the drawing board and re-think their strategic calculus. Not doing so could prove extremely expensive and dangerous for them.

https://www.dailyo.in/politics/paki...-bipin-rawat-narendra-modi/story/1/22163.html
 
Modi,s way of dealing with both Pakistan & China has been seen in last 12 months

Surgical strikes Massive artillery firing on LOC v Pakistan.

dokhlam stand off with China

there is no shirking from india
 
india is has always been an imperialist fascist state especially since the mauryan empire. Pakistans nuclear weapon are the only thing stopping fascist akhand bharat.

Pakistanis today are too dumb to understand this fascist entity called india that is why they dont even reply to india properly.

Declare that Pakistan battle field nukes are custom made to target indian army with extreme generosity and are to be used on planner of akhand bharat.

Pakistan must never ever make plans with an eventual peace in mind. The need is to have a clear goal which is the eventual partition of india.

As long as india exists, fascism in the subcontinent will remain.
 
i think india considers nasr missile as some kind of toy.i think their surgical strike mindset is the same when we saw their army men dying on their so called helicopter,sluipping and dying to death like a coward.a nation whose army can't control a helicopter and whose army men slip on one another,i mean this is some kind of a joke.india was attacking pakistan in 2001,nothing happened,than in 2008,indians died in mumbai attack and they died like a coward,nothing happened.now they think that just because modi is their president,they can turn the tables.you have uri you have pathankot you have bodies of your soldiers without heads,still not learning the lesson.
 
The well known nuclear bluff of Pakistan.

Pakistan can't use nukes against India. They are only meant for sabre-rattling.
U r welcome to try...what's stopping u guys? Since u have so cleverly figured out that Pakistan is bluffing I say go ahead with ur Cold Start Doctrine and while u r at it don't forget about taking Azad Kashmir. Since Pakistan is so weak and bluffing, it must be a walk in the park for India to take back its Atoot Ang aka Kashmir.

So u guys coming or what? :azn:
 
U r welcome to try...what's stopping u guys? Since u have so cleverly figured out that Pakistan is bluffing I say go ahead with ur Cold Start Doctrine and while u r at it don't forget about taking Azad Kashmir. Since Pakistan is so weak and bluffing, it must be a walk in the park for India to take back its Atoot Ang aka Kashmir.

So u guys coming or what? :azn:

I don't think you understand what you are saying.

But Pakistan is in no position to use a nuke and still exist afterwards.
 
I don't think you understand what you are saying.
I do understand what I'm saying...u r just trying to change the subject bcuz u didn't have a proper comeback. U said Pakistan's nuclear threats are a bluff...to which I replied that u figured it out, it seems Kashmir is ripe for the taking by India.

But Pakistan is in no position to use a nuke and still exist afterwards.
Pakistan never claimed that it will exist afterwards. All countries on earth know what happens after the nuclear weapons exchange between two nuclear powers...Mutually Assured Destruction(MAD). It doesn't matter if Pakistan won't exist after nuking India...bcuz India wouldn't exist either.
 

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