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Why India needs to nurture Bangladesh

I dont think India can or afford to nurture Bangladesh. They should take care of their own problem. We Bangladeshis are doing great here..
Why not this writer ask his government to nurture his own state (WB) from where he is writing this crrrap...

I think there is no room for Indians to discuss anything constructive about BD as long as trolls like you are on the lose.

Open your eyes, troll, stop living in denial. Is taking help a bad thing, its geo politics where both gain from good relations, its not charity.

BD is in no position that it is doing fine by itself, troll. Open you eyes.
 
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I think there is no room for Indians to discuss anything constructive about BD as long as trolls like you are on the lose.

Open your eyes, troll, stop living in denial. Is taking help a bad thing, its geo politics where both gain from good relations, its not charity.

BD is in no position that it is doing fine by itself, troll. Open you eyes.

Truly speaking, I have not come across even a single sane minded BD poster in this forum. They would always chant their so called anti Hindu, anti India mantras even if that topic is about say for example 'Mars and aliens'. And whenever I have countered them with facts, they either run away to come after sometime with a new de-railment idea of the thread, or never visit that thread at all. Such Poseurs.

Now for Indian posters, when you know what happens 'in Red Bold above', why the hell do you have to open new threads regarding them. You ain't going to get nothing but trolls and some madrassa infused hate chants. Facts and reasoning are way above their heads.

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Truly speaking, I have not come across even a single sane minded BD poster in this forum. They would always chant their so called anti Hindu, anti India mantras even if that topic is about say for example 'Mars and aliens'. And whenever I have countered them with facts, they either run away to come after sometime with a new de-railment idea of the thread, or never visit that thread at all. Such Poseurs.

Now for Indian posters, when you know what happens 'in Red Bold above', why the hell do you have to open new threads regarding them. You ain't going to get nothing but trolls and some madrassa infused hate chants. Facts and reasoning are way above their heads.

Thank You


not all Bangladeshis are like them..............there are still some elements left who never wanted Bangladesh.
try to ignore trolls ..................report and move on
 
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Why India needs to nurture Bangladesh: Rediff.com India News

In a deteriorating neighbourhood, only Bangladesh offers a ray of hope, writes Brigadier (retd) S K Chatterji.

Amidst the instability in India's [ Images ] neighbourhood with a degenerating Pakistan, an Afghan war at the crossroads, Nepalese people unable to write their own constitution, Myanmar in a rigid status quo, a Sri Lankan political establishment that is apparently not farsighted; Bangladesh offers a ray of hope.

Should Sheikh Hasina, the Bangladesh prime minister not slow down her pace, there is a possibility that another South Asian neighbour will not remain a haven of terrorists along Indian borders. Since her ascension to power after the nation underwent two years of military domination, she has held her course in combating radical fundamentalist movements that had made Bangladesh their base. But, to emerge from the shadows that still hover over the country, huge investments in terms of sustained political will need to remain evident for a sustained period of time.

The most spectacular terrorist onslaught that Bangladesh witnessed was the August 17, 2005 chain bombing by the Jamat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh. About 500 bombs were detonated all across the country, in 63 of the nation's 64 districts, in a span of 60 minutes. This single act of violence left no doubt in anybody's mind about the group's capability, network and intent. The then Khaleda Zia government was forced to respond, albeit driven to it by a huge international pressure, and quite in contrast to JMB chief Abdur Rehman's assessment that there would be no reaction from a regime deeply in cohorts with his establishment.

Rehman, a graduate of Medina University, Saudi Arabia, had been radicalised post his coming into contact with Muslim Brotherhood during his student days.

The roots of terror that led to spectacular orchestration of August 17, 2005 can be traced to the days of Bangladesh's freedom struggle in 1971 when the Jamaat-e-Islami collaborated with the Pakistanis. The echoes of Jamat's vicious role in the liberation struggle are yet noticeable in Bangla politics. Bringing to justice the war criminals was a part of Sheikh Hasina's Awami League manifesto for the national elections in December, 2008.

The terror groups in Bangladesh found greater traction when the Bangladesh Nationalist Party led by Khaleda Zia came to power with Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami, Islami Oikya Jote and Jatiya Party as its partners. Khaleda's dependence on Islamist parties paved the way for radicals consolidating in Bangladesh. Its ultimate manifestation was the 500, near simultaneous nationwide blasts.

With the country's dubious downslide into becoming another hub of radical terror, like Pakistan, the Bangladesh military intervened, ousting the government. Lieutenant General Moeen U Ahmed, chief of the Bangladesh Army declared a state of Emergency on January 12, 2007 and a new interim government was set up the next day. Though no nation stated so openly, perhaps the change of regime was as welcome in the West as in India. On April 30, 2007 the caretaker government hanged Rahman, his deputy and five top leaders of the jihadi establishment in accordance with the Supreme Court's ruling. The hydra-headed jihadi establishment was decapitated to some extent, though not entirely.

For Bangladeshis, charting a route out of the morass had just begun. Other Islamist fundamentalist groups in Bangladesh that have firm linkages to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] and other Pakistan based radical organisations and the Inter Services Intelligence were yet to be dealt with.

Bangladesh has also a fairly old left wing insurgency. However, the groups are highly fragmented, corrupt and haven't enough muscle as yet to prove to be a threat to the government.

Bangladesh has been the preferred destination of the leadership of most Indian insurgent movements in the northeastern states. In fact, many of them have established their training camps, while some have nurtured business interests in Bangladesh and used the porous Indo-Bangla border for carrying out terror attacks in India and exfiltrating to the safety provided across. It has also been an often used routing for Lashkar militants to especially exfiltrate from India after a spell in the Kashmir valley.

The United Liberation Front of Assam chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa, commander-in-chief Paresh Barua, and his deputy Raju Barua have operated from Bangladesh with impunity during Khaleda tenure. Today, their location remains uncertain, with China also a possibility on the cards.

However, once Hasina stabilised the country post the 33-hour mutiny by its para-military force, Bangladesh Rifles personnel on February 25-26, 2009 that left 56 army officers dead, an attempt to subdue Indian groups operating from Bangladesh territory, is evident.

Amongst the more tangible steps taken by Bangladesh, is the fact of two ULFA leaders, foreign secretary Sashadhar Choudhury and finance secretary Chitraban Hazairka were handed over to the Border Security Force on November 6, 2009. The BSF has also given a list of 104 camps of Indian militant groups operating in Bangladesh. The camps have served as bases for a wide array of outfits operating in the northeast states.

In terms of counter insurgency force, Bangladesh has the Rapid Action Battalions, which, by past records, have performed quite adequately. The BDR revolt was certainly a huge setback, but it failed to prompt what was to all apparently its objective: force an army coup and thereby both deny a democratically elected government to rule, and in the process make the army unpopular amongst Bangla citizenry.

The force has since been hopefully cleansed of jihadi elements. The Directorate General of Forces' Intelligence, has also long standing linkages with the ISI. These need to be severed, if not already dealt with.

Hasina has also set up a 17-member National Committee on Militancy Resistance and Prevention. The committee has announced a zero tolerance policy. Should Hasina go by her electoral promise of trying war criminals, the Jamaat-e-Islami leadership might receive a body blow.

Matiur Rahman Nizami and Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mujahid, the Jamaat's top leaders, are accused of war crimes. The people of Bangladesh have displayed their will by voting decisively for Hasina's Awami League. She has the majority in the house to act boldly.

The international atmosphere today and the concerns of free societies in fighting terror, also favour Hasina. Relationship with India has improved tangibly after the Awami League has come to power. A major problem has been the lack of an extradition treaty between the two countries. During Hasina's last visit to India three major treaties on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters, mutual transfer of convicted prisoners, and cooperation in the fight against international terrorism, organised crime and illegal drug trafficking have been inked.

Hasina's attempts at combating jihad will have to be accompanied by development in a primarily agrarian economy. As yet, Bangladesh remains one of the poorest countries. Poverty, deprivation and lack of modern education provide the necessary impetus to jihad. Culturally, Bangladeshis are far more liberal in thinking as compared to the North Western Frontier Province in Pakistan.

However, like it is the case in most terror affected areas, the populace is held hostage by the threat that the terrorists hold out in areas where governance is weak. Hasina will have to continue with the battle, and more vigorously so. This is one war, where gains cannot be conserved or status quos that will hold. If you do not fight the jihadi continuously, he is gaining ground already. The objective all along is to keep them beneath critical mass levels, so that they cannot explode amidst those who practice greater tolerance.

Brigadier (retd) S K Chatterji

EjazR Saheb

Another piece of crap by your country. Bangladesh is the most peaceful nation in south Asia. It's Al that trying to make artificial civil war for no good reason. Your country need to come out this "statue que" of defending Al. Al doesn't even represent 50% population.

If bharat desire a good relation with bd than it must build relation with people of bd and that include BNP-Jamaat.

It would be nice if bharat resolve it's internal turmoil before giving us unworthy advice.
 
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Eraz sir

Another piece of crap by your country. Bangladesh is the most peaceful nation in south Asia. It's Al that trying to make artificial civil war for good reason. Your country need to come out this "statue que" of defending Al. Al doesn't even represent 50% population.

If bharat desire a good relation with bd than it must build relation people of bd and that include BNP-Jamaat.

It would be nice if bharat resolve it's internal turmoil before giving us unworthy advice.

sorry sir, but can you tell me how AI came to power they doesnot even represent 50%
 
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Eraz sir

Another piece of crap by your country. Bangladesh is the most peaceful nation in south Asia. It's Al that trying to make artificial civil war for good reason. Your country need to come out this "statue que" of defending Al. Al doesn't even represent 50% population.

If bharat desire a good relation with bd than it must build relation people of bd and that include BNP-Jamaat.

It would be nice if bharat resolve it's internal turmoil before giving us unworthy advice.

We will never support BNP like fundamentalist parties, be it anywhere in the world. India is happily supporting a democratically elected Govt. in place in BD. You can continue to carry on BNP's propaganda in here for now. :lol::lol:
 
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The nation is devided only because we did not settle the trial in 70's. Once the deal is done the nation will be united again. There is no other way. Its not about Hasian/Khaleda but a deep rooted hatred beared deep inside the defeated forces in 1971. They will do anything to take the country back to stone ages.:cheers:

There is a solid proof that la-hasina's daughter father in law was a war criminal. Any move to hang him.

If you think that you will get away by bleeding Aalim-e-din just to demise opposition than keep dreaming. You will be bleed just as you try to bleed the them. It's 2010, not 1970.
 
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There is a solid proof that la-hasina's daughter father in law was a war criminal. Any move to hang him.

Proof? If you have proof, you should take it up with law enforcement agencies. Now please don't rant that all are corrupt in BD.
 
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Proof? If you have proof, you should take it up with law enforcement agencies. Now please don't rant that all are corrupt in BD.

And why can't you believe my allegation? is it because he is awami league?
 
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And why can't you believe my allegation? is it because he is awami league?

Because you never back up any of your posts with facts or sources. :lol::lol:

There are numerous threads where you have just disappeared OR left it alone when asked to justify your claim. :lol::lol:
 
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Because you never back up any of your posts with facts or sources. :lol::lol:

There are numerous threads where you have just disappeared OR left it alone when asked to justify your claim. :lol::lol:

I don't need to proof nada to no damn bharati. You bharati needs to stay away from bd's internal matter. You guys are not welcome in our soil.

As a matter of fact, al losing popularity because it has mingle with you too much.
 
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I don't need proof nada to no damn bharati.

See, this is the difference. You called me a troll, remember?

And you have raised issue in this forum, so if any member requests you for facts/sources/proofs, provide it. Put up or shut up. You are just making a fool out of yourself like in every thread.

You bharati needs to stay away from bd's internal matter. You guys are not welcome in our soil.

Hush. It is you who is openly spreading BD's internal matters (read as propaganda) in an open forum like this. But they are just crap, ain't they? Not proved till now, will never be proved ever.

As a matter of fact, al losing popularity because it has mingle with you too much.

Oh! I wish.
 
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We will never support BNP like fundamentalist parties, be it anywhere in the world. India is happily supporting a democratically elected Govt. in place in BD. You can continue to carry on BNP's propaganda in here for now. :lol::lol:

This is the core of the problem. Indians are accepting A and rejecting B---- Just because A serves Them well then B. Its Purely selfish Interests in the name of Friendship--- which now the Bangladeshi people realize well---And those who have realized it---You are stripping them of their own Nationality.

If India is a true Friend of BD----It needs to be The Friend of the people of Bangladesh---Not just a single party. No matter who is in power, India needs to support them equally. If not and Otherwise----then no need to make loud claims of Fake Friendships.
The Only way Where the people of BD will start believing India as a friend--- where they see India helping out the common Bangladeshi---with a consistent support, no matter who is in power--- But that frankly speaking India cannot do.


BTW, Those who are calling AL as the only and sole legitimate Authority---should know that in Democratic form of government--- This authority is not for ever---Few years from now they might not be in power---Will you have the guts to say the same about Their adversaries if they win????? People Voted for PPP in Pakistan, but they are cursing their decision now. A party's Legitimacy is not solely measured by the number of votes it got in the election--- But by the standing it enjoys during the course of Its governance--- The public view makes or brakes it--- If this was not the case then no party in power anywhere around the world, would have been Knocked out in the next elections--- And would have continued forever--- I am sure If tomorrow, the elections are held in Bangladesh--- the situation would be quite opposite----Same goes for Pakistan--- PPP wont even find enough seats to take the role of opposition--- So much for the legitimacy--- So don't you guys keep on tapping, the weakness of the system.


Look at the article, Isn't it just asking Bangladesh,specially Al---- To do what India wants---- And every thing that India thinks correct, is correct--- dictating their terms and Back patting Al, for what so ever it has done, which are in line to the indian interests. Another funny thing is that, the author in his imaginations have portrayed--- India as heaven and All other its neighbors hell--- and you can add angels and devils in the respective places. Now here, he is making a suggestion to the rest-- that they can come out of that hell--- and enter that beautiful heaven--- if they follow what India tells them.

The fact is, All South Asian Nations--- are living in the same conditions-- or all most the same--and facing almost the same core problems--- but here huge false lines are drawn--- A piece of propaganda --- that sometimes works well--- specially when the masses are not literate---or less educated, and even if they are, they lack Vision.





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Adios
 
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This is the core of the problem. Indians are accepting A and rejecting B---- Just because A serves Them well then B. Its Purely selfish Interests in the name of Friendship--- which now the Bangladeshi people realize well---And those who have realized it---You are stripping them of their own Nationality.

If India is a true Friend of BD----It needs to be The Friend of the people of Bangladesh---Not just a single party. No matter who is in power, India needs to support them equally. If not and Otherwise----then no need to make loud claims of Fake Friendships.
The Only way Where the people of BD will start believing India as a friend--- where they see India helping out the common Bangladeshi---with a consistent support, no matter who is in power--- But that frankly speaking India cannot do.


BTW, Those who are calling AL as the only and sole legitimate Authority---should know that in Democratic form of government--- This authority is not for ever---Few years from now they might not be in power---Will you have the guts to say the same about Their adversaries if they win????? People Voted for PPP in Pakistan, but they are cursing their decision now. A party's Legitimacy is not solely measured by the number of votes it got in the election--- But by the standing it enjoys during the course of Its governance--- The public view makes or brakes it--- If this was not the case then no party in power anywhere around the world, would have been Knocked out in the next elections--- And would have continued forever--- I am sure If tomorrow, the elections are held in Bangladesh--- the situation would be quite opposite----Same goes for Pakistan--- PPP wont even find enough seats to take the role of opposition--- So much for the legitimacy--- So don't you guys keep on tapping, the weakness of the system.


Look at the article, Isn't it just asking Bangladesh,specially Al---- To do what India wants---- And every thing that India thinks correct, is correct--- dictating their terms and Back patting Al, for what so ever it has done, which are in line to the indian interests. Another funny thing is that, the author in his imaginations have portrayed--- India as heaven and All other its neighbors hell--- and you can add angels and devils in the respective places. Now here, he is making a suggestion to the rest-- that they can come out of that hell--- and enter that beautiful heaven--- if they follow what India tells them.

The fact is, All South Asian Nations--- are living in the same conditions-- or all most the same--and facing almost the same core problems--- but here huge false lines are drawn--- A piece of propaganda --- that sometimes works well--- specially when the masses are not literate---or less educated, and even if they are, they lack Vision.

:pakistan:

Adios

Replying to the bold part above. India is supporting a democratically elected Govt in BD. Is there any need to support fanatics like BNP?
The answer is no.

Thank You.
 
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Replying to the bold part above. India is supporting a democratically elected Govt in BD. Is there any need to support fanatics like BNP?
The answer is no.

Thank You.

Who has given you the right, to call them Fanatics???

If they are Fanatics---Then whole of Bangladesh is Fanatic--- and The people of Bangladesh are Fanatics---Because they have chosen them to power, 2wice---and soon they may again choose them.


This is simply an Insult to the mandate of The People of Bangladesh--- and all the democratic Institutions and well wishers, of the democratic system in Bangladesh.

Talking of democracy--- The one which you claim to be champions off.




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Adios
 
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