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Why India is not a Secular State

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The world community has rightly regarded Pakistan and Bangladesh as examples of theocratic states practicing policies of harsh discrimination against Hindus and other minorities. Sri Lanka’s Singhala-centric policies have generated gross discrimination against its Tamil citizens. Beyond India’s South Asian neighbourhood, numerous Islamic states such as Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia follow unjust policies toward minorities of all kinds that are an affront to civilized values everywhere and at all times. India in contrast is seen as a shining example of a secular state.

With the Republic Day just gone by, it is time to ask: But is India really a secular state?

I do not think so.

Political secularism may be defined as the separation of religious activities from those of the state, customarily referred to as "the separation of church and state" in the west. Secularism in theory then would mean that religion and state cannot occupy the same space. The state in its governmental capacity does not promote any religion or religious group, nor does it intervene in religious affairs. It cannot even be involved in interpretation or "reform" of any religion much less favour one over any other. This model of secularism may be characterized as maximum separation between state and religion except on manifest grounds of morality, health, and public order. Theoretical formulation, interpretation, and implementation of secularism have varied in several countries. In Indian context, the votaries of Hindutva equate it with appeasement of minorities, thus "pseudo-secularism." Apologists of Indian secularism call it "religious equi-distance, not non-involvement," meaning that Indian state is neutral between religions and religious communities.

I demonstrate that in practice, Indian state actually privileges Hinduism over other religions and religious communities. The Indian state is in fact the defender of the dharma for the following five reasons.

1: Constitutional Discrimination

Article 25 (2) of the constitution calls for providing "social welfare and reform and throwing open of Hindu religious institutions of public character to all classes and sections of Hindus." India’s constitution does not define who or what is a Hindu, but it defines followers of Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism as Hindus for purposes of Hindu temple entry. Article 25 (2) (b) (Explanation II) states: "the reference to Hindus shall be construed as including a reference to persons professing the Sikh, Jaina or Buddhist religion…"

Isn’t this the concern of Brahmin establishment to allow or disallow whoever they deem fit to enter a temple? Why should a secular state be concerned with the social welfare of only one religion? The motive of the constitution writers was obvious: to prevent the conversion of Dalits to Christianity or Islam, to "reform" Hinduism to make it palatable to the former untouchables.

The Hindu Marriage Act of 1955 applies to

(a) any person who is a Hindu by religion in any of its forms and developments, including a Virashaiva, a Lingayat or follower of the Brahmo, Prarthana or Arya Samaj;

(b) to any person who is a Buddhist, Jain or Sikh by religion, and

(c) to any person domiciled in the territories who is not a Muslim, Christian, Parsi or Jew by religion.

In other words, legally there is no such thing as a Buddhist, Jain, or Sikh marriage, which is another attempt to deny other religions a distinctive identity and absorb them in the Hindu fold.

The Office of the Registrar General that conducts the decennial census enumerates anyone who is not a Christian, Muslim or Parsi as Hindu, most particularly in tribal areas, in pursuance of a policy of Hindu by default to inflate the religious majority.

Article 290A of the Constitution, which was added in 1956, provides for Kerala state funds to be paid for the upkeep of Hindu temples and shrines in the territories of former princely state of Tranvancore. What state but a denominational one would spend government funds to promote a particular religion?

[As an aside, a forest has been destroyed in arguing for a uniform civil code as opposed to Muslim Personal Law and the issue of Haj subsidy. But perhaps I can save those issues for a full discussion at a different time]

2: Legislative Discrimination

Although freedom of religion is granted under the constitution’s Article 25 (1), a Congress government of Madhya Pradesh pioneered anti-conversion legislation during the heyday of Nehru in 1954. Since then as many as 7 state legislatures (Arunachal, Chhattisgarh, Gujarat, Himachal, Orissa, Rajasthan and Tripura) have passed laws severely restricting conversion from Hinduism to other religions while facilitating conversion to Hinduism.

In 1982, when a few hundred Dalits embraced Islam in Meenakshipuram, the central government took measures to curb conversions. No less than Indira Gandhi characterized conversions as a threat to national security.

Christian missions and churches have been under attack since decades, often with state complicity as demonstrated in August-September 2008 in Orissa and Karnataka.

Hundreds of mosques are in illegal possession nationwide including in New Delhi, where scores are occupied by the central government.

It was a Congress government that first locked up the Babari Mosque in 1949 by court order effectively converting it into a Hindu temple. What began under Nehru was successfully completed by Narasimha Rao in 1992 through the Mosque’s destruction under the very nose of army, paramilitary and police. It is ironic that the Indian state is ready to deploy army to flush out Sikh insurgents from Golden Temple and Muslim rebels from Charar-i Sharif, but not protect Babari Mosque from the Hindu mobs’ jack hammers.

The states of Gujarat and UP spent government funds to rebuild the Somanatha Temple around the same time when Babari Mosque was locked up. It was President Rajendra Prasad who inaugurated the rebuilt temple in 1951 amidst official fanfare.

3: Employment Discrimination

Article 16 (2) of the constitution prohibits discrimination in public employment on religious grounds. Yet there are numerous examples of outright discrimination. Per Presidential orders of 1950 and 1956 the beneficiaries of Scheduled Castes’ reservation can only be Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists but not Christians and Muslims. If an SC changes religion after obtaining employment or admission to school, he or she must forfeit job and withdraw from school as has happened in numerous instances. But if the SC reverts to Hinduism, he or she can resume his/her status as an SC as courts have ruled.

Discrimination in Army

Right after 1947, Kashmir’s predominantly Hindu army was absorbed in the national army; whereas Hyderabad’s largely Muslim army was disbanded, rendering nearly 20,000 jobless. The Indian army’s infantry regiments are still based on religion (Sikh regiments), or ethnicity (Gorkha) or caste (Rajput) or region (Garhwal) in which members of other faiths, ethnicities, and regions are barred.

While a bearded Sikh may become chief of the army staff as did Gen. J.J. Singh, a Muslim may not sport beard in any of the armed forces. Only Jhatka is served in army messes and langers forcing Muslims to become vegetarian. A Hanuman temple greets visitors upon entering virtually every cantonment in the nation, hinting non-Hindus that they don’t belong there. In their public addresses to the soldiers and officers, at least two army chiefs—Generals B.C. Joshi and Shankar Roy Chowdhury—have used references to Hindu scriptures to the exclusion of the Quran and the Bible.

4: Cultural Discrimination

There are numerous examples where Hindu culture is conflated with Indian culture. The ban on cow slaughter deprived thousands of butchers their livelihood even as it stole millions of poor their only source of inexpensive protein. Cow may be sacred to the upper castes, but not so to the Christians, Dalits, and Muslims. Food taboos of some higher castes do not end at beef. Beyond beef, eggs may not be sold publicly by court order as it offends some caste sensibilities. Nor can school children bring food of their choice if it offends Hindus.

Official functions of the government whether at the central or state levels often commence with Hindu ceremonies of lighting lamps, breaking coconuts, and recitation of slokas. There is no disapproval to the fact that functions of central and state ministries of education begin with Sarasvati vandana .

In September 1993, Air India took delivery of a Boeing 747 in Seattle, Washington where the Ramakrishna Mission performed a puja invoking Lord Ganesha. Ministers lay foundation stones of government buildings preceded by bhoomi puja ceremony as if the state belongs only to Hindus. In Vishakhapatnam, I witnessed a ship launch amid saffron-robed, ashen faced sadhus singing bhajans, a function nearly mistaken as a Hindu festival.

In a trip to the United States in 1984, AP Chief Minister N.T. Ramarao found nothing objectionable in spending government funds for distributing medallions with Sri Venkateshwara’s image among potential investors in his state.

A large stone image of a reclining Vishnu located at the entrance to the IGP’s headquarters in Bangalore is more fitting for a temple than a secular state’s police building. Almost every police thana in West Bengal has a Kali temple, none has a mosque in a state with nearly 30 percent Muslim population. Muslim police trainees in Andhra Pradesh,

School children in Gujarat, Maharashtra and numerous other states have been forced to perform Surya namaskar against their will. Government school texts in Hindi and regional languages assume all pupils to be Hindu as the contents are soaked with idioms, phrases, signs, symbols, and icons of Hinduism to the exclusion of material from other religions and cultures. Textbooks of history and social studies are replete with gross distortions of Indian history of all eras, ancient, medieval and modern, in which Muslims and Christians are invariably the villains, traitors and foreigners.

Until the advent of television in the 1980s, All India Radio was the main source of information and entertainment to middle classes. The government-controlled AIR began its programs with Vande Mataram, Mangala dhwani, Vandana, and Hindu lyrics. Rarely did AIR broadcast anything pertaining to Christian or Muslim cultures. Like the AIR, during its heyday, seldom does Door Darshan show any serials of Muslim or Christian character.When it broadcasted serials of historical or literary figures—Tipu Sultan, Ghalib—they were caricatured into modern stock characters stripped of their distinctive cultural identity.

5: Religious Pogroms

Finally no modern, secular democracy other than India experienced multiple, state-sponsored pogroms—that of Sikhs in 1984 and of Muslims in 2002. In both instances, the highest in the Executive branch of the government justified the pogroms: Rajiv Gandhi when his mother was murdered; and Narendra Modi when the train burned in Godhra.

For all these five reasons, India is not a secular state. It is in fact the defender of Hindu dharma.

Why India Is Not A Secular State : outlookindia.com
 
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Even before checking the link, I was sure the author is non-Hindu.

I have explanation for these things, but the discussion will be more religious than technical. I don't know if such thing is allowed here. Mods please throw some light on the issue.

Will post the detailed reply tomorrow.
 
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Even before checking the link, I was sure the author is non-Hindu.

I have explanation for these things, but the discussion will be more religious than technical. I don't know if such thing is allowed here. Mods please throw some light on the issue.

Will post the detailed reply tomorrow.

So you mean that for a post to be acceptable for your highness, it has to be written by a 'hindu' and moreover it has to be pro-indian also!

You sure a logical!

You better come up with your 'Explanations'
 
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For all these five reasons, India is not a secular state. It is in fact the defender of Hindu dharma.

Then in fact India is a Sikh state because Sikh Pant was established to save killing of Hindus by Mughals. Sikhism was the defender of Hindu dharma.
 
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Nice article to debate about. Thanks for the poster... India should have more such discussions. That will lead us in the right direction of achieving the objectives of secularism.


Names of laws are just for convenience's sake. Since marriage is also a religious matter to a great extent, the most reasonable way of naming marriage acts is after the religion they apply to.
AFAI Hindu marriage act covers the practices involved in the other religions covered by the act.

The laws are for intellectuals like lawyers and judges to judge about. Not for cracky people to satisfy themselves that there is an act after their religion's name.

But if some politician makes an issue out of it, the people in power would promptly bring out a Sikh marriage act, a Jain marriage act etc to cash in on their votes. But when you look at the content, they will be the same.
So the naming should not matter that much


So the first point burns down to a matter of convenience...

Interested people read this...
For all people there is a 'Special marriage act' that sets the ground rules.

Indian Marriage Acts,Marriage Laws In India,Marriage Acts In India,,
 
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You give me 4 reasons that are not even well researched about why India is not a secular state, I will give you a billion reasons why India is a secular state.
 
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So you mean that for a post to be acceptable for your highness, it has to be written by a 'hindu' and moreover it has to be pro-indian also!

You sure a logical!

You better come up with your 'Explanations'

No, I mean a non- Hindu lacks in some knowledge which can be seen from this article.

Wait for the explanation before commenting.
 
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Answer to the article


#1

Let me go through the author’s objections one by one.

Definition of Hindu:
Hindu is not a simple and uniform religion like Islam or Christianity. To be very specific, it cannot be called as ‘religion’; but it is a ‘Dharma’ (which has something more than a religion). But there is no better parallel word for ‘Dharma’ in English, so I will use ‘religion’. Neither it is developed or founded by a single person. Hinduism has been developed through ages in style of science more than that of a religion. That is, it is not that the whole Hinduism was developed overnight. There were theories, then studies, corrections, additions, more theories, mistakes, again corrections, modifications, adjustments and after all this, Hinduism is standing in front of you in current form.

Naturally, there is no ‘record’ of Hindus spreading all over the Asia from tens of centuries! It was like evolution of human being. They born at the same site - got separated for some reasons – situated at different locations – modified their customs to adjust with surroundings – started to look like two different religions from outside.

When constant attacks from Mughals led to the rise of ‘Khalsa’ panth, the pains of human being from his own mindset led to rise of ‘Buddhism’. There are countless different branches for equally different reasons from this same tree.

There were no Muslims in the area until Mughal era and no Christians until British era. Naturally, the other religions are comparatively new and their converted followers ‘know’ (by name) that which religion they are following. Also, Islam and Christianity are uniform and united all over the world.

Above reasons are more than enough to define anybody as Hindu who is not Islamic, Christian or any other ‘religion’. Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs cannot be called having different ‘religion’ until they prey to common Gods and have common basic customs.

Author talks about ‘writers of constitution’. That group was led by Dr. Ambedkar. He was a low caste Hindu (Dalit) by birth. Later he got sick of the ‘caste system’ in Hinduism and got himself converted into ‘Buddhist’ with millions of his followers! If he decided the things as they are, can you claim “those are in favor of Hinduism making Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism pay the cost”?
 
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Secondly, author has objection on the marriage law!

This alone can show the caliber of his article. The law is to provide legal frame to the marriages not having differences in basics. As all the marriages stated by the author are similar, they are gathered under a single roof. Naming it as ‘Hindu marriage law’, does not mean denial of other marriages. Also, marriage law is beneficial for Islamic religious practices in Nikah, as there is ‘Muslim marriage law’ for them. This law allows practices like having more than one wife, accepting “talaak, talaak, talaak” style of divorce etc.

The aid is given by the governments to the ancient temples. These aids are given from the view of ‘national heritage place’ rather than a ‘religious place’. I am sure some mosques, churches also get such aid.
 
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#3

As far as the conversions are concerned, I have already discussed the matter in another thread. Please care to read my post.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...4-hindu-sites-only-hinduism-5.html#post290407

For those who do not want it in details, summery is -

1. Hindus are often sensitive to the 'purity' thing which often leads to foolishness.
2. Hindus are never known for forceful/disguising conversions.

Naturally, they must be protected!
 
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Well the article is very good, even though i would like to do more research on the points mentioned above, such discussions should come up more, so as to improve ourselves. Will check out the facts and get back very soon..!!!
 
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Let me go through the author’s objections one by one.

Author talks about ‘writers of constitution’. That group was led by Dr. Ambedkar. He was a low caste Hindu (Dalit) by birth. Later he got sick of the ‘caste system’ in Hinduism and got himself converted into ‘Buddhist’ with millions of his followers! If he decided the things as they are, can you claim “those are in favor of Hinduism making Buddhism, Sikhism and Jainism pay the cost”?

Hey from what i could get from the article is that, even though the initial constituation was secular in nature, the ammendmends made to it by the majority, have lead to favouratism to religions.. be it hindu christians sikhs and muslims. So the auther is not questioning the Constituation written by Ambedkar but the ammendmends done to it time to time.
 
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Hey from what i could get from the article is that, even though the initial constituation was secular in nature, the ammendmends made to it by the majority, have lead to favouratism to religions.. be it hindu christians sikhs and muslims. So the auther is not questioning the Constituation written by Ambedkar but the ammendmends done to it time to time.

You are mistaken, dude.

The part in question is from the original constitution which was written under lead of Dr. B.R. Ambedkar.

Moreover, author clearly uses the term 'motive of constitution writers'.
 
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#4

The next objection author has is on security and law and order issue.

The examples used by the author are ‘crimes’ in the states and not ‘official actions’ of those states. Not only that, govt also has taken action against the culprits and they have been punished many times.

Only Babari issue is tried to show as an exception by the author. But here, the matter is not so simple. Hindus claim that there was a temple of Shri Ram at that place. (According to Hindu mythology, Ayodhya is considered as birth place of God Shri Ram.) It was destroyed to smash the feelings of Hindus and Babari mosque was built by Mughals.

The matter is under the legal procedure. They also had a research there by archeologists by digging underground. They found some proofs of existence of a temple. So, the confusion continues and so do the clashes on the issue. If the government would have been on the side of Hindus, there would have been a big temple in Ayodhya at the place in question. But you can see, no side is being favored and the situation is maintained at status quo.

Somnath temple has no objection from Muslims, neither there is any confusion. So, the ancient temple is rebuilt.
 
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