Why India is already a loser in NSA talks

[Xenophon]

LOL.... what international court ?

We are planing to abrogate the Indus Water Treaty

Lolz ok give it a try .

 

[Makaramarma]

Lolz ok give it a try .

OK .......... Enjoy

Prospects of Water Crisis in Pakistan by Damming of Indus River by India - Daily The Patriot

India plans to build 9 more dams on Indus River - thenews.com.pk

 

[Xenophon]

OK .......... Enjoy

Prospects of Water Crisis in Pakistan by Damming of Indus River by India - Daily The Patriot

India plans to build 9 more dams on Indus River - thenews.com.pk

Dnt you know anything about this treaty ?

 

[Usama78]

How is india a loser ? What is that pakistan can do at the best ,conduct more terrorist attacks ? India has been there and seen it all. Pak sponsored terror attacks is not going to stop India growing economically. Pakistan can continue to be obsessed with kashmir and keep conducting terror attacks. We have enough muscle and money power to see them through. As pakistan rears more snakes in there backyard to bite india they will come to roost one or the other day.

Its a war of attrition keep dreaming on of coveting kashmir. Even bangladesh is in better financial state than pakistan now.

For a country which boasts of fighting "war on terrorism" , pathetically runs away from having dialogue on terrorism. It simply shows which way war on terrorism is going on.

Your post shows height of ignorance. Did you even read the thread?
India is a looser because it made a dumb diplomatic move. How? Read the thread.

 

[Makaramarma]

Dnt you know anything about this treaty ?

Do you know anything about Terrorism ?

 

[Usama78]

Tell that to your PM who agreed to have talks on terrorism in Ufa . Backing out from your promises and calling us losers .

We backed out?
Really? Who said no talks if this if that.....
You tell me? The border skirmishes and violations from either side are mainly on Loc(lets not fight over who does it for now)
Where is LOC? In canada? No its unfortunately in kashmir.
If we talk about reducing border ten5ions and before the talks you tell us who to meet and who not to meet? How is that fair? Who r u to dictate us? We talk to whoever we want to. Its your govt Imposing pre conditions, not us. Just start making sense please. Ty

 

[Dragon4]

We backed out?
Really? Who said no talks if this if that.....
You tell me? The border skirmishes and violations from either side are mainly on Loc(lets not fight over who does it for now)
Where is LOC? In canada? No its unfortunately in kashmir.
If we talk about reducing border ten5ions and before the talks you tell us who to meet and who not to meet? How is that fair? Who r u to dictate us? We talk to whoever we want to. Its your govt Imposing pre conditions, not us. Just start making sense please. Ty

So u accept terrorism in India is because of Kashmir and that is why Pakistan is sponsoring it

 

[Makaramarma]

We backed out?
Really? Who said no talks if this if that.....
You tell me? The border skirmishes and violations from either side are mainly on Loc(lets not fight over who does it for now)
Where is LOC? In canada? No its unfortunately in kashmir.
If we talk about reducing border ten5ions and before the talks you tell us who to meet and who not to meet? How is that fair? Who r u to dictate us? We talk to whoever we want to. Its your govt Imposing pre conditions, not us. Just start making sense please. Ty

We know intelligence is not your obvious strength, but TRY,

Full text of India-Pakistan joint statement on PM Narendra Modi-Nawaz Sharif talks in Russia - The Hindu

The Prime Ministers of Pakistan and India met today on the sidelines of the SCO Summit in Ufa. The meeting was held in a cordial atmosphere. The two leaders exchanged views on issues of bilateral and regional interest.

They agreed that India and Pakistan have a collective responsibility to ensure peace and promote development. To do so, they are prepared to discuss all outstanding issues.

Both leaders condemned terrorism in all its forms and agreed to cooperate with each other to eliminate this menace from South Asia.

They also agreed on the following steps to be taken by the two sides:

1. A meeting in New Delhi between the two NSAs to discuss all issues connected to terrorism.

2. Early meetings of DG BSF and DG Pakistan Rangers followed by that of DGMOs.

3. Decision for release of fishermen in each other’s custody, along with their boats, within a period of 15 days.

4. Mechanism for facilitating religious tourism.

5. Both sides agreed to discuss ways and means to expedite the Mumbai case trial, including additional information like providing voice samples.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif reiterated his invitation to Prime Minister Modi to visit Pakistan for the SAARC Summit in 2016. Prime Minister Modi accepted the invitation.

 

[Whazzup]

We backed out?
Really? Who said no talks if this if that.....
You tell me? The border skirmishes and violations from either side are mainly on Loc(lets not fight over who does it for now)
Where is LOC? In canada? No its unfortunately in kashmir.
If we talk about reducing border ten5ions and before the talks you tell us who to meet and who not to meet? How is that fair? Who r u to dictate us? We talk to whoever we want to. Its your govt Imposing pre conditions, not us. Just start making sense please. Ty

Sigh;

1. A meeting in New Delhi between the two NSAs to discuss all issues connected to terrorism.

2. Early meetings of DG BSF and DG Pakistan Rangers followed by that of DGMOs.

3. Decision for release of fishermen in each other’s custody, along with their boats, within a period of 15 days.

4. Mechanism for facilitating religious tourism.

5. Both sides agreed to discuss ways and means to expedite the Mumbai case trial, including additional information like providing voice samples.

Full text of India-Pakistan joint statement on PM Narendra Modi-Nawaz Sharif talks in Russia - The Hindu
You see Kashmir here? anywhere?
If you people were so much hell bent to discuss Kashmir then why not talked about it in Ufa?

And BTW ANOTHER LIE for cease fire violation see point number 2 it was the meeting of two DG for discussing that but no you people can't live without lying.

 

[Razia Sultana]

How is india a loser ? What is that pakistan can do at the best ,conduct more terrorist attacks ? India has been there and seen it all. Pak sponsored terror attacks is not going to stop India growing economically. Pakistan can continue to be obsessed with kashmir and keep conducting terror attacks. We have enough muscle and money power to see them through. As pakistan rears more snakes in there backyard to bite india they will come to roost one or the other day.

Its a war of attrition keep dreaming on of coveting kashmir. Even bangladesh is in better financial state than pakistan now.

For a country which boasts of fighting "war on terrorism" , pathetically runs away from having dialogue on terrorism. It simply shows which way war on terrorism is going on.

Its a loss for India as we could not hand over the new evidences on Dawood and corner Sartaj Aziz on Lakhvi. This was a talk on terrorism only and Pakistan army did not want it so they created a ruckus and worked on a way out of this talk. To that extent they were successful and now blaming it on India.

Ideally India should have kept quiet till the end, should have quietly blocked the hurriyat leaders from meeting the pakistani delegation, should have bombarded them on the issue of terror which we were ready and then would have said time is over, rest next time, lets have dinner. I think we played into pakistan's provocation. PA was upset the moment Ufa declaration was out and nawaz Sharief had tough time explaining things to his army chief. We should have anticipated all this and acted accordingly.

 

[Makaramarma]

Its a loss for India as we could not hand over the new evidences on Dawood and corner Sartaj Aziz on Lakhvi. This was a talk on terrorism only and Pakistan army did not want it so they created a ruckus and worked on a way out of this talk. To that extent they were successful and now blaming it on India.

Ideally India should have kept quiet till the end, should have quietly blocked the hurriyat leaders from meeting the pakistani delegation, should have bombarded them on the issue of terror which we were ready and then would have said time is over, rest next time, lets have dinner. I think we played into pakistan's provocation. PA was upset the moment Ufa declaration was out and nawaz Sharief had tough time explaining things to his army chief. We should have anticipated all this and acted accordingly.

Rubbish.

What is the point of providing new evidence of Dawood ......... like they don't know he is there ? or Lakhvi for that matter ?

No body even in pakistan believes its India who backed away from the talks. The rest of the world has seen how the whole thing played out.

India did the right thing by calling their bluff. India has been playing "big brother" for FAR TOO LONG. It is time to treat them like adults.

PA's being upset is not our problem, that is NS problem. So the next time NS makes a promise, he better check with the PA. or else he will be known as a court jester who became king.

We did anticipate all this and did act accordingly. Its a new day for Indian diplomacy. Time for old man sartaj azia to adapt or die.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Rubbish.

What is the point of providing new evidence of Dawood ......... like they don't know he is there ? or Lakhvi for that matter ?

No body even in pakistan believes its India who backed away from the talks. The rest of the world has seen how the whole thing played out.

India did the right thing by calling their bluff. India has been playing "big brother" for FAR TOO LONG. It is time to treat them like adults.

PA's being upset is not our problem, that is NS problem. So the next time NS makes a promise, he better check with the PA. or else he will be known as a court jester who became king.

We did anticipate all this and did act accordingly. Its a new day for Indian diplomacy. Time for old man sartaj azia to adapt or die.

Its either drama or diplomacy. With so much of theatrics on both sides the diplomacy had taken a back seat. Now what? Pakistan will be back to her antics of kashmir or nothing. Its their policy to bleed india with thousand cuts and we are haplessly seeing the "good" terrorists living a comfortable life in pakistan and enjoying state protection. They are prompting us to do tit for tat, they want india to stoop to their level and i am just hoping we are not succumbing to it albeit it may gives us an adrenalin rush.

 

[Makaramarma]

Its either drama or diplomacy. With so much of theatrics on both sides the diplomacy had taken a back seat. Now what? Pakistan will be back to her antics of kashmir or nothing. Its their policy to bleed india with thousand cuts and we are haplessly seeing the "good" terrorists living a comfortable life in pakistan and enjoying state protection. They are prompting us to do tit for tat, they want india to stoop to their level and i am just hoping we are not succumbing to it albeit it may gives us an adrenalin rush.

Diplomacy with pakistan IS 99.99% drama . Which is why we are where we started in 1947. So to say things have taken a back seat is hilarious. Things will ALWAYS be backseat with pakistan as long as the "establishment" runs that nation.

pakistan will continue to send terrorist irrespective of ANY talks ........ who in the world does not know that ? you don't ? who doubts it ?

India needs to take a fresh approach to the whole situation IF we are serious about resolving this.

THAT involves FORCING pakistan to come to us begging for talks. Till that happens, its ALL DRAMA.

Do you think GOI is run by teenagers to go behind adrenalin rush ?

 

[Razia Sultana]

Diplomacy with pakistan IS 99.99% drama . Which is why we are where we started in 1947. So to say things have taken a back seat is hilarious. Things will ALWAYS be backseat with pakistan as long as the "establishment" runs that nation.

pakistan will continue to send terrorist irrespective of ANY talks ........ who in the world does not know that ? you don't ? who doubts it ?

India needs to take a fresh approach to the whole situation IF we are serious about resolving this.

THAT involves FORCING pakistan to come to us begging for talks. Till that happens, its ALL DRAMA.

Do you think GOI is run by teenagers to go behind adrenalin rush ?

You can laugh at your own jokes. Where we have chance of a victory, settling for a draw is actually a loss.
World knows about pakistan but then what can you do. they have openly said that they will bleed india thru thousand cuts, now whats your plan to stop them from doing it? they do everything to irritate India, they support, finance and train terrorists but we can't stop them. Can you attack them? can you get them declare a terrorist state by UN? Pakistan knows that it can never get kashmir either by talks or by war. their objective is simple, "we wont let you live peacefully".
Now see what India did by resorting to diplomacy in last 15 years. their economy is in shambles, they are struggling with their home grown terror, afghans have become anti-pakistan, their closest ally USA is no longer their friend, they have no option but to kneel before china for support by compromizing on Uyghurs, from india-pak tag they became Af-pak..... all this was result of diplomacy.

 

[SrNair]

Ok .
Who wrote these funny article ?
A common Indian will whole heartedly suppose the brave decision of present policymakers.
Now on we have a clear foreign policy for Pakistan.All we need to maintain these strategy.
We should give them a 'take it' or 'leave it'.Two choices.Now on there is no third party or entity in Indo -Pak talks .If they dont want we will just ignore the nation on our western side.