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Why Imran Khan's removal can lay the foundation for the fragmentation of Pakistan.

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Allah swt helps those who helps themselves, not those intent on electing lanats over and over again

Indeed that is the law, but even then the worst of the personalities/leaders do not have the ability to derail the nations until the nations themselves wish to be.
IMO, the second part of the sentence is more appropriate in our case, as with the power of vote vested in us but we still choose sides with thieves and corrupts.
 
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Why do you get a heart attack whenever ethnonationalism comes up 😭 😭
people mix EN with separatists that's why they get a heart attack- the majority of EN believe in the idea of Pakistan cause it makes economic, security sense
but believe their group before anything else - this leads to problems in a multi-ethnic nations

too much EN hurt your own people cause you don't think clearly (just like religious extremism) but its not mercury poison- maybe a slow poison that hurts you over time

I am not supporting EN but I think people do get way too scared of EN's imo
 
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She said this?



You bring up the economic factor which can also aid in destabilization
She was asked is Pakistan about to collapse and she said something to the effect of "As long as Pakistan army is there as a viable institution, "for better or worse" I do not see the state of Pakistan collapsing." You could see the pain in her face. I spent a little bit of time looking for the clip on youtube but couldn't find it.

I did find this lovely link with her handcuffed acting like the crazy person that she is.


Sorry to take the thread off topic!
 
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people mix EN with separatists that's why they get a heart attack- the majority of EN believe in the idea of Pakistan cause it makes economic, security sense
but believe their group before anything else - this leads to problems in a multi-ethnic nations

too much EN hurt your own people cause you don't think clearly (just like religious extremism) but its not mercury poison- maybe a slow poison that hurts you over time

I am not supporting EN but I think people do get way too scared of EN's imo

The guy who I was replying to gets way too frantic about it.

It’s also because of post 1971 trauma and afghan and Indian inteference which leads PDFers and Pak nationalists to completely lose their mind whenever this topic comes up.

Lol this thread is actually mad funny. So many people got butthurt when I showed them reality.
 
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Imagine if Imran comes out victorious from this. He is going to eff them up, I am really hoping for that. We need a confident populist leader that can take institutions to task for under performing.
 
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This is not an exageration but an eventuality that could very well happen. I have come to the conclusion not only because IK is the only national leader we have at the moment and Maryum and Bilalwal are restricted in support within their provinces but there is a history to this in our country.

Lets go back to the election between Fatima Jinnah and Ayub Khan. Fatima Jinnah was perhaps the only politician from West Pakistan having any traction in East Pakistan. Her loss and the subsiquent rigging allegations paved the way for Awami League to exploit the sentiments of Bengali youth at the time and appeal to them that their os no one in West Pakistan capable of looking after their interests.

Fatima Jinnah's loss and the violence there-after also left a deep impact on Karachi politics and that memory was exploited by the likes of MQM 2 decades later.

Now coming back to the present, IKs primary support base is KPK. Pakistan especially KPK is experiencing a youth bulge. If IK is removed, do you see any other politician from Punjab who can connect with the youth there. Maryum has already shown her Punjabi Nationalist tendencies and Bilawal is a lost cause.

PTM might have fizzled out but it is clear that if IK is removed from the scene, those young bloods who are looking for a cause might find someone else who they connect with more on a personal level. Especially if the feeling is that IKs removal is the collusion of powerful interests who keep backing a Regional Punjab-based party despite repeated instigations.

I think so.... Because the Americas are itching to re-start the drone bombing of Pakistani Pathans after Imran Khan. The PML and PeePeePee are desperate to say to the West "absolutely Yes"....

I am not sure if Pakistan can survive another revival of corrupt Pakistani government allowing Americans to bomb second-class Pakistani for a few $$ to buy houses in LONDON. .

So you may be right....

Chill the f out son

If our guy isn't winning doesn't mean one starts going around calling it a national security threat or please daddy interfere

What if the new corrupt government says "absolutely Yes" to drone attacks.... Then do you think we can a tiny weeny bit of concern??... Or should we all still "chill the f up" and say please bomb us again?
 
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I think so.... Because the Americas are itching to re-start the drone bombing of Pakistani Pathans after Imran Khan. The PML and PeePeePee are desperate to say to the West "absolutely Yes"....

I am not sure if Pakistan can survive another revival of corrupt Pakistani government allowing Americans to bomb second-class Pakistani for a few $$ to buy houses in LONDON. .

So you may be right....



What if the new corrupt government says "absolutely Yes" to drone attacks.... Then do you think we can a tiny weeny bit of concern??... Or should we all still "chill the f up" and say please bomb us again?
if it happened again then instead of bitching about GOP in our living rooms and how we are agreeing to let US drone our people and how our army positions are being droned

we should for once get up and protest against it instead of sitting in our living rooms and complain
 
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Wow. Something new to process.


Scenario 1
Arch enemy launches accidental supersonic missile.
Response: We are 4000 year old civilisation which can never perish till Indus flows.

Scenario 2
Routine democratic parliamentary procedure.

Response: Rapture, apocalypse and mahabhrata all rolled into one big chant we doomed.
 
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Never ever. I am an IK fan but as long as Pak army is there, they will not our country fail no matter what the politicians try to do. This is basically the statement said by our enemy and Pakistan hater Christine Fair also.
They will not fail us??? They've been patronizing snakes from day one from Sikander Mirza to Bhutto to MQM to BB to NS and now Zardari clan.
 
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if it happened again then instead of bitching about GOP in our living rooms and how we are agreeing to let US drone our people and how our army positions are being droned

we should for once get up and protest against it instead of sitting in our living rooms and complain
I am surprised with this typical emotional Pakistani logics and thats shows the mind set of most of fellow Pakistanis they never able to see beyond few days or weeks whats coming ahead until that hazard bang right on top of their head.

Any one in the sense mind can really think SS or Zaradari can say No?? so this is going to happen its envitable why do u let it happen at 1st place and suggesting to protest later??

what it will change burning few tyres and distoying the earings of local business due to protest.

last time you been protest on one hand and getting paid on other hand..

they will do the same again they will protest with you together on other hand they will ask bang the heck out as you please as long as you keep sending dollars our way..

Good luck with your protest and I suggest you should gather some tyres to burn later on atleast this much forward planing you could do..

P.S... when I ref you it meant not personally u. I am just pointing out the nation mind set. nothing againt you.
 
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I am surprised with this typical emotional Pakistani logics and thats shows the mind set of most of fellow Pakistanis they never able to see beyond few days or weeks whats coming ahead until that hazard bang right on top of their head.

Any one in the sense mind can really think SS or Zaradari can say No?? so this is going to happen its envitable why do u let it happen at 1st place and suggesting to protest later??

what it will change burning few tyres and distoying the earings of local business due to protest.

last time you been protest on one hand and getting paid on other hand..

they will do the same again they will protest with you together on other hand they will ask bang the heck out as you please as long as you keep sending dollars our way..

Good luck with your protest and I suggest you should gather some tyres to burn later on atleast this much forward planing you could do..

P.S... when I ref you it meant not personally u. I am just pointing out the nation mind set. nothing againt you.
on second thought we did protest but nothing happened, our men were bombed by drones we protested but still nothing happened

Wow. Something new to process.


Scenario 1
Arch enemy launches accidental supersonic missile.
Response: We are 4000 year old civilisation which can never perish till Indus flows.

Scenario 2
Routine democratic parliamentary procedure.

Response: Rapture, apocalypse and mahabhrata all rolled into one big chant we doomed.
OT but this reminded me of myth associated with a temple locals built which said till this temple stands and indus flowed we shall never perish
temple was destroyed by MBQ but Indus kept on flowing like it always did
 
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