Why I don't share the same sentiment as others thinking Iran is friendly

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Irani mulla want sectarian war in.pak what they done in syria iraq and Yemen

No, they don't want sectarian violance, it may even split to iran.
They want instability to fail gawadar.

 

[Bill Longley]

Iran is part of OBOR and are building rail track to connect iran with iraq and then to syria. Yes they are showing hostility by giving Indians free hand and I think it will be unfortunate if Pakistan has to hit terror camps in Iran but unfortunately Iranian conduct in past has legalized it. Iran should mend its ways and stop taking advantage of Pakistans gentleness.
They will be in big truble if pakistan decides to be hostile. they should remember we are not iraqis or syrians or saudis .our hostility will cost them a lot. God forbids if it happens it will be very unfortunate for Ummah and region.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

filthy bastardize mullah regime in iran isnt a friend of Pakistan .

Iran is not terrorist the evangelical Anglo Saxon dogs and their Jew masters are the terrorists with their Torah and Talmud

apparently iran is hosting them in chabahar .

 

[Canuck786]

Iran is a Islamic brother country but our national security should be kept in front and there is ample evidence of wrong doings from within our southwestern neighbor. Don't get mad at me guys but as a strategic measure we should perhaps extend our support and cooperation to GCC narrative including the changing stance of friendship towards Israel. (I can't believe it has come down to this)

 

[Bill Longley]

there are some misunderstandings , Iran is our neighbor and in PAst help us . I belive these mis understanding should end and Iran should behave and should not give space to india and Anti Pakistan forces on its soil. Both Iran and Pakistan are part of Chinese OBOR. US is trying to Make India counter weight to China. Iran will learn soon that India will damage it for sake of US.
Iran like Pakistan is victim of US imperial policies. we should stand with Iran and Iran Should stand with US to counter American and Indian designs. I dont have love for Iran but what I am saying is based on Pragmatism. Pakistan ,Iran Russia and China + Turkey need to make a block if they want to survive with honor

 

[SALMAN F]

filthy bastardize mullah regime in iran isnt a friend of Pakistan .


apparently iran is hosting them in chabahar .

The Hindus but not the Anglo-Saxon zionists

 

[Murgah]

No, they don't want sectarian violance, it may even split to iran.
They want instability to fail gawadar.[/QUOT
they dont need money wht they want is revenge for the islamic conquer of iran you think if they want money why they joint hand with russia they can easily join us block

 

[alb4kistani]

Iran is no friend of Muslims or Pakistan!Iran and Suads are evil!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Iran is not your friend and never was your friend. Lets first and foremost understand this?

I see alot of Israel talk here and there? But the truth is what difference is there between Israel and Iran? The Israelis are a tiny people and population who are hardly any threat towards Pakistan or anyone else. Just roughly 4-5mio.

Where as the Iranian regime are a terrorist state who are spreading wars and sectrian wars. Don't ever think that this was against them they use the sectrain wars and they want it why it's because of how they view the world. This is in my opinion a worse enemy than Israel ever was to you.

So please don't waste your time talking about Israel who in truth are just a vessal state of the Americans your allies. Taking israel is not hard either but the problem is they are American vessal state.

What you need to do is Clean the garbage in your backside first and stop using time talking about nonsense and non-topics.

You have to be vigilante and take on whatever threat or whatever security risk that comes your way right now it seems like Iran is the biggest to your security and peace. We have to rise to the occasion and deal with this expansionism Iranian terrorist elements. They are extremist who don't understand anything but violence.

Neither is Iran, Israel or Saudi Arabia an enemy of Pakistan. Each has their own interest and deftly looks after them. Also their peoples are VERY patriotic about their nations. The BIGGEST problem is Pakistan, the lack of patriotism of our citizens and our weak identity politics. For some reason (although this is now changing), Pakistan mainly looks at the world through a Pan-Islamic "Ummah" perspective. That is a problems because ALL other Muslim countries bar Turkey don't. They all look after their NATIONAL interests ONLY. We should too. The Ummah led thinking also causes our citizens to become unpatriotic religious nut jobs who want to die for the Palestinians but are more than happy to ignore the suffering of fellow Pakistani Muslims. Until Pakistan becomes an ultra-nationalistic country, we will always suffer.

 

[alb4kistani]

Iran is the evil that Israel needs to justify its expansion! Iran and Sauds are yahoods byach!

Neither is Iran, Israel or Saudi Arabia an enemy of Pakistan. Each has their own interest and deftly looks after them. Also their peoples are VERY patriotic about their nations. The BIGGEST problem is Pakistan, the lack of patriotism of our citizens and our weak identity politics. For some reason (although this is now changing), Pakistan mainly looks at the world through a Pan-Islamic "Ummah" perspective. That is a problems because ALL other Muslim countries bar Turkey don't. They all look after their NATIONAL interests ONLY. We should too. The Ummah led thinking also causes our citizens to become unpatriotic religious nut jobs who want to die for the Palestinians but are more than happy to ignore the suffering of fellow Pakistani Muslims. Until Pakistan becomes an ultra-nationalistic country, we will always suffer.

lols @ nationalist my notionalist friend Pakistan is united because of Islam and the days we take Islam out of Pakistan our country wull be divided into smaller parts and nationalism is a weak or failed concept that leads to war and destruction, ww1 ww2 and many more wars fought to satisfy small egos of nationalist idiots!

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Iran is a Islamic brother country but our national security should be kept in front and there is ample evidence of wrong doings from within our southwestern neighbor. Don't get mad at me guys but as a strategic measure we should perhaps extend our support and cooperation to GCC narrative including the changing stance of friendship towards Israel. (I can't believe it has come down to this)

Your brother (Iran) backstabbed you, so this justifies joining hands with the devil (Israel?)

I don’t follow this logic at all.

Can we please keep discussion of Iran and Arab brotherly countries (who sometimes don’t act so brotherly) away from the known and accursed enemy of our faith and history?

Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal, along with so many of our leading Muslim leaders during independence, were not wrong to refuse relations and declare Israel as an enemy state.

Don’t be so gullible. Imran Khan told us about Israeli involvement for a reason, and ISI is not raising alarm bells for no reason.

Israel, and India, are our enemies forever, nothing can change it.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

The Hindus but not the Anglo-Saxon zionists

they are our arch rival and apparently operating from chabahar .

 

[Arsalan 345]

Iran will not accept it's role.irani president denied Irani role in kulbbushan and he said it on Pakistani soil.now if their soldiers kidnap again,they will launch all diplomatic and verbal threats to pakistan.it is time for Pakistan to become mature.nobody will help Pakistan until Pakistan start helping itself.does Iran care about attacks in Pakistan? No. Does Pakistan care about attacks in Iran? Yes. But why? Why Pakistan always sacrifice? It's time to give free hand to armed forces.iran have no regular army.they are all proxy.they wanted middle east.look at middle East now! Iran has destroyed countries based on hate,based on ideology.they will learn if we Target these people inside their own house.

 

[Bill Longley]

Neither is Iran, Israel or Saudi Arabia an enemy of Pakistan. Each has their own interest and deftly looks after them. Also their peoples are VERY patriotic about their nations. The BIGGEST problem is Pakistan, the lack of patriotism of our citizens and our weak identity politics. For some reason (although this is now changing), Pakistan mainly looks at the world through a Pan-Islamic "Ummah" perspective. That is a problems because ALL other Muslim countries bar Turkey don't. They all look after their NATIONAL interests ONLY. We should too. The Ummah led thinking also causes our citizens to become unpatriotic religious nut jobs who want to die for the Palestinians but are more than happy to ignore the suffering of fellow Pakistani Muslims. Until Pakistan becomes an ultra-nationalistic country, we will always suffer.

If you love Prophet (ﷺ) you you love and care for his ummaties. even if no islamic state stand with you. My loyalty my love is for prophet (ﷺ) makes me part of his ummah
Prophet said muslims are like a wall , every brick holding other brick
now come to micro level Pakistan is an important unit in ummah.Consider Pakistan a strong arm , strength of Pakistan gives hope and strength to muslims living any where,
love of Pakistan is love for ummah. If Pakistan is strong ummah is strong. Its duty of every Pakistani muslim to work and make this great country strong . Remember a strong muslim is better than a week one.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

The nations listed in Psalm 83:5-8 comprise a fairly complete rundown of the ancient enemies of Israel, and Edom, the descendants of Esau, is given primacy of place. After Edom come the usual suspects: the Ishmaelites, Moab, the Hagarites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, and Tyre; and Assyria joins them, specifically helping the children of Lot.

Descendants of Esau actually appear three times on this list, as Amalek (see Genesis 36:12) and Gebal (here, a region of Idumea, often confused with the Phoenician city of Gebal or Byblos) are tribes that became distinguished from the bulk of the Edomites. Evidently, these tribes struck out on their own and eventually established their own identities. Amalek, in particular, was a thorn in Israel's side.

Bible history, from about Genesis 16 on, records that all of these nations rose up against Israel and Judah perpetually. Only very rarely did they ally with Israel for any length of time, and when they did, it was usually because they faced an even stronger, more dreaded enemy. It seems that Israel had peace from them only when they were conquered and put under tribute.

The only major nations missing from this list of Israel's persistent enemies are Egypt and Babylon. There may be several reasons for their omission. First, the context speaks of a particular historical "confederacy" against Israel, and Egypt and Babylon may not have been part of it. Second, as major powers in the region, Egypt and Babylon were generally unconcerned about Israel, or at least did not posses the visceral hatred of God's people that these other nations did. Third, the peoples that are mentioned were either ethnically related to Israel or lived in close proximity to her, while Egypt and Babylon are not related to Israel and inhabited distant realms.

Finally, as a prophecy of the last days, Psalm 83 may not consider Egypt and Babylon to represent the physical peoples that they did anciently. In fact, a physical Babylon does not seem to exist in the end time; the ancient city lies in ruins for tourists in Iraq to behold. If Egypt, a modern Arab nation, is contemplated in the prophecy, it may be included under the Hagarites, as Hagar, mother of Ishmael, was an Egyptian (Genesis 16:1). In addition, Ishmael's wife was also Egyptian (Genesis 21:21), making the Ishmaelites three-quarters Egyptian.

Nevertheless, all of these different peoples—Edom, Ishmael, Amalek, Moab, Ammon, Philistia, Tyre, and Assyria—are among the major players in the Middle East today. These are peoples from whom the Jihadists and the Islamic fundamentalists hail, making up what is known as the "Arab" or "Muslim world." Today, these people inhabit the nations of Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, etc., and the pseudo-nation of Palestine.

Psalm 83 lists a group of peoples—a confederacy—whose main enemy is Israel. Today, there exists a worldwide jihad against the West, particularly aimed at the "Great Satan," the United States, and the despised Jews, the State of Israel. The physical descendants of ancient Israel—the English-speaking peoples, the democracies of Northwest Europe, and the Jewish Diaspora—are the standard-bearers of Western civilization. The same players are still in the game!

Who has initiated the conflict over these last several years? For the most part, Islamist or fundamentalist Arabs have been the aggressors. The terrorists have mainly come from Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, North Africa, Iraq, etc.—that is, Arab nations. The philosophical or religious underpinnings for these attacks have their source in the virulent and violent anti-Western teachings of Wahhabism (spread from Saudi Arabia), militant pan-Arab socialism (cultivated by despots in Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, etc.), and anti-Semitism (practiced hypocritically by a majority of Arabs, who are themselves Semitic peoples, descendants of Abraham).

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cf...w/RTD/cgg/ID/12169/Ancient-Enemies-Israel.htm

- so they claim