Why I Am Not Charlie? I Am Ahmed!

[Supply&Demand]

It depends on which version of Baniya i thought of. Even Worse than the kind of mullah you thought of.

any version of baiya is better than a mullah who blows themselves up or makes others blow themselves up..

 

[RiazHaq]

Malian Muslim worker saved Jews at a kosher supermarket in Paris, France:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu personally thanked him. French politicians called for him to be awarded France’s highest honor. And now, just days after a deadly terrorist attack hit a Parisian kosher store, he was dubbed the “Malian Muslim,” the man who risked everything to save the lives of some Jews.

“I want to express my appreciation to the Mali citizen who helped save seven Jews,” Netanyahu said Sunday night during a visit to a synagogue as the audience erupted in cheers.

As French authorities stitched together the details of what transpired during last week’s days of terror, a cast of villains and heroes emerged. There were the French police officers who died during the attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo, and the female officer an Islamist militant gunned down in southern Paris. Then there was the owner of a printing plant who distracted gunmen while a 26-year-old colleague escaped. And finally — perhaps most incredibly — there’s the Malian Muslim.

The Muslim who risked his life at a Paris kosher market to save seven Jews - The Washington Post

 

[RiazHaq]

From Haaretz: "Pencil and Hijab"

This week, looking at photos of the mass rally in Paris, I was impressed by the apparent show of shared purpose. But I wondered how many of the marchers using the symbol of a pencil to defend free speech would also defend the right to express oneself by wearing a hijab. This isn't a rhetorical question; I don't know the answer. I'd suggest, however, that acceptance of the woman in the pastel hijab as a full citizen of the republic, a Frenchwoman, is essential to the war on terror.

That phrase, "war on terror," is usually misused in too wide or too narrow a sense – too wide when it's a synonym for "conflict of civilizations"; too narrow when it refers only to tactical means of preventing attacks or pursuing perpetrators.

What both usages ignore is that modern terrorism is a political strategy born in Western revolutionary movements. It's a tool of the few to mobilize the many: Acts of extravagant violence are expected to spur the enemy – the regime, or colonial power, or post-colonial powers – to overreact, to harm the innocent. People whom the terrorists believe should be on their side will be unable to remain quiet or seek compromise. In the larger conflict that ensues, the terrorists expect victory.

Renamed jihad, terror takes on a religious garb but the goals of polarization and escalation remain. So responding to an act of terror by Islamic radicals as if Islam alone produces such violence, or as if all Muslims were automatic terror suspects, plays into the hands of the terrorists. When Israel reacts to Hamas terror in ways that hurt the entire Palestinian population, it serves the terrorists. Those people in France who react to the brutal attacks of the past week by voting for the radical right will grant the terrorists a victory.

On the other hand, to the extent that the somber crowds in Paris demonstrated the civic unity of a diverse France, they handed a strategic defeat to terror. Those Israeli commentators who dismissed the demonstration as a useless gesture were mistaken.

The signs saying "Je Suis Charlie" bore a more contradictory message. Correct: Nothing that the magazine Charlie Hebdo published could provide a shadow of justification for murder. To identify with the victims seems a natural way to insist on freedom of expression. Intentionally or not, though, the slogan "I am Charlie" also suggests identifying with the magazine's content.

The pencil and the hijab: Freedom of expression includes the right not to be secular - OpinionIsrael News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[RiazHaq]

So there are limits to free speech in France: Controversial French comedian Dieudonne has been arrested in the wake of the deadly attack on the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, and held on charges of apologizing for terrorism. He was one of 54 people held across the country; none has been linked to the attacks.

Dieudonne's alleged crime: writing "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly" [I am Charlie Coulibaly] on his Facebook account.

It's an apparent reference to "Je Suis Charlie," the message of solidarity that many people shared after the attack on the magazine that was targeted by Islamist extremists for its cartoons depicting Prophet Muhammad. Coulibaly is the last name of Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman who killed four people at a Kosher market in Paris last week. Controversial French Comedian Arrested Over Facebook Post On Paris Attacks : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[SarthakGanguly]

So there are limits to free speech in France: Controversial French comedian Dieudonne has been arrested in the wake of the deadly attack on the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, and held on charges of apologizing for terrorism. He was one of 54 people held across the country; none has been linked to the attacks.

Dieudonne's alleged crime: writing "Je suis Charlie Coulibaly" [I am Charlie Coulibaly] on his Facebook account.

It's an apparent reference to "Je Suis Charlie," the message of solidarity that many people shared after the attack on the magazine that was targeted by Islamist extremists for its cartoons depicting Prophet Muhammad. Coulibaly is the last name of Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman who killed four people at a Kosher market in Paris last week. Controversial French Comedian Arrested Over Facebook Post On Paris Attacks : The Two-Way : NPR

Is he KILLED? Does this simple point elude you or are you being deliberately impenetrable?

 

[Ragnar]

Me am Achmet, the dead terrorist. Me skull gallivanting with 72 biyaatches but no dentist.. Bwhaahaahaa..

 

[RiazHaq]

Elsa Ray, the spokeswoman of the Paris-based Collective Against Islamophobia in France, declined to react specifically to the new cartoon, but said that cartoons that lampooned Muhammad breached the limits of decency and insulted Muslims. “The freedom of expression may be guaranteed by the French Constitution, but there is a limit when it goes too far and turns into hatred, and stigmatization,” she said.

Moreover, she argued that the failure of French courts to clamp down on cartoons satirizing Muhammad was a double standard, given the robustness of action taken when Jews were insulted by cartoonists or artists, including Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, a comedian, who in 2013 came under the scrutiny of courts, which banned a series of his shows.

Mr. M’bala M’bala has said it was a shame that a Jewish journalist had not been killed in the gas chambers. He has also come under fire for popularizing a gesture that strongly resembles a Nazi salute.

In a statement on his Facebook page after Sunday’s enormous unity march in Paris, Mr. M’bala M’bala expressed his admiration for Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman behind the killings at a kosher supermarket. “As far as I am concerned, I feel I am Charlie Coulibaly,” he wrote, alluding to the “I am Charlie” rallying cry. The Paris prosecutor’s office said Monday it had opened an investigation to determine if Mr. M’bala M’bala should be charged with promoting terrorism.

Mr. M’bala M’bala said he was being unfairly targeted.

French laws safeguard the freedom of speech, but there are many exceptions to the rule.

Prime Minister Manuel Valls told the National Assembly on Tuesday that “blasphemy” was not in French law and never would be. But he refused to draw any analogy between the satirists of Charlie Hebdo and Mr. M’bala M’bala.

“There is a fundamental difference,” he said.

Some cultural observers praised Charlie Hebdo for upholding Western values of liberal democracy, even at risk of violence. Flemming Rose, the former cultural editor of the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, whose 2005 publication of cartoons lampooning Muhammad — including one with his turban depicted as a lit fuse — drew violent recriminations that reverberated across the world, recalled that the publication of the cartoons resulted in a fatwa against him by a radical cleric, threats against the newspaper and one of its cartoonists, and attacks against Danish embassies in the Middle East.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/world/europe/new-charlie-hebdo-has-muhammad-cartoon.html

Is he KILLED? Does this simple point elude you or are you being deliberately impenetrable?

Does it elude you that we are talking about double standards in the implementation of free speech laws in France, the key issue at the heart of the Charlie Hebdo case? Does your bigotry against Islam and Muslims blind blind you to this double standard?

 

[Kaniska]

funny thing is even if its matter of muslims or Pakistani some hindu do have to put their nose in. There are 33% of indian muslims who we hardly see commenting on religion .. people who doesnt know anything about islam commenting.

Because it is the people who does not know Islam is getting impacted by these growing influence of violence extreme version of Islam...And those who know Islam, it is bussiness as usual for them so they are not commenting...

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Elsa Ray, the spokeswoman of the Paris-based Collective Against Islamophobia in France, declined to react specifically to the new cartoon, but said that cartoons that lampooned Muhammad breached the limits of decency and insulted Muslims. “The freedom of expression may be guaranteed by the French Constitution, but there is a limit when it goes too far and turns into hatred, and stigmatization,” she said.

Moreover, she argued that the failure of French courts to clamp down on cartoons satirizing Muhammad was a double standard, given the robustness of action taken when Jews were insulted by cartoonists or artists, including Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, a comedian, who in 2013 came under the scrutiny of courts, which banned a series of his shows.

Mr. M’bala M’bala has said it was a shame that a Jewish journalist had not been killed in the gas chambers. He has also come under fire for popularizing a gesture that strongly resembles a Nazi salute.

In a statement on his Facebook page after Sunday’s enormous unity march in Paris, Mr. M’bala M’bala expressed his admiration for Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman behind the killings at a kosher supermarket. “As far as I am concerned, I feel I am Charlie Coulibaly,” he wrote, alluding to the “I am Charlie” rallying cry. The Paris prosecutor’s office said Monday it had opened an investigation to determine if Mr. M’bala M’bala should be charged with promoting terrorism.

Mr. M’bala M’bala said he was being unfairly targeted.

French laws safeguard the freedom of speech, but there are many exceptions to the rule.

Prime Minister Manuel Valls told the National Assembly on Tuesday that “blasphemy” was not in French law and never would be. But he refused to draw any analogy between the satirists of Charlie Hebdo and Mr. M’bala M’bala.

“There is a fundamental difference,” he said.

Some cultural observers praised Charlie Hebdo for upholding Western values of liberal democracy, even at risk of violence. Flemming Rose, the former cultural editor of the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, whose 2005 publication of cartoons lampooning Muhammad — including one with his turban depicted as a lit fuse — drew violent recriminations that reverberated across the world, recalled that the publication of the cartoons resulted in a fatwa against him by a radical cleric, threats against the newspaper and one of its cartoonists, and attacks against Danish embassies in the Middle East.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/world/europe/new-charlie-hebdo-has-muhammad-cartoon.html



Does it elude you that we are talking about double standards in the implementation of free speech laws in France, the key issue at the heart of the Charlie Hebdo case? Does your bigotry against Islam and Muslims blind blind you to this double standard?

I will go with you being deliberate. Thanks.

 

[RiazHaq]

Facebook CEO on free speech:


"Most countries have laws restricting some form of speech or another," the CEO said. If Facebook were to let users post something that would be illegal in their country, would that result in more people being able to express themselves? The best course of action is often to remove the content, he suggested.

"If you break the law in a country, often times the country blocks the service entirely," Zuckerberg said.

He was responding to a question about whether Facebook would break the law in a country that curtails free speech in order to empower its users.


Facebook's philosophy, Zuckerberg said, is to give people as many tools as possible to express themselves. The company sometimes pushes back against government requests to block content, he said, but Facebook must respect local laws.

The issue of freedom of speech is front and center after the shootings last week in Paris at the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

At the time, Zuckerberg aligned himself with those advocating for the freedom to publish, writing a post that ended with the hash tag "JeSuisCharlie."

His comments were quickly criticized by some, who noted that Facebook has its own, sometimes seemingly arbitrary rules about posts it will not display.

On Wednesday, a person from Pakistan in a question submitted online, asked Zuckerberg why he decided to speak out about the shootings. The attack is relevant to Facebook because it wants to connect the world and give everyone a voice, the CEO replied.


In the first half of 2014, Facebook blocked access to thousands of pieces of content, though mostly in India and Turkey, according to its latest transparency report. In India, for instance, local laws prohibit criticism of religion or the state, the company said.

Zuckerberg describes need to balance local laws and free speech | Computerworld

 

[MilSpec]

There are 6 billion Charlies and 1 billion non Charlies. So who wins Mr @RiazHaq?

Mr. RiazHaq does with his 12 hotlinks on the post ...... Cha ching.

 

[My-Analogous]

There are 6 billion Charlies and 1 billion non Charlies. So who wins Mr @RiazHaq?

History proof that truth will be a winner and it doesn't matter of big it is or how small it is. Truth will win Mr. Ito. And from the month of 6 billion the truth came out.

BBC News - Paris attacks: Pope Francis says freedom of speech has limits

 

[MarkusS]

You are missing the whole point, I am not drawing cartoons of your mom **********, right? On the contrary if I was doing that then you would have every right to be upset. You keep away from my religion and I don't care what you do with yourself or your religion.



You mean you are against the death penalty? That too is murder, state sponsored and orchestrated.



You do what you must, but don't tell others what they should do.



God man, why do Indians have to be generally retarded......or perhaps it is just to annoy us.

Give me 1 line where I have cheered or even supported the killings of the cartoonists, show me a single line or apologize for your BS here!

What if i tell you that i wouldn´t care if you make cartoons of my mother? Freedom of speech is more important than your religion. And i got my charlie magazine as did 2 million others.

 

[Mav3rick]

What if i tell you that i wouldn´t care if you make cartoons of my mother? Freedom of speech is more important than your religion. And i got my charlie magazine as did 2 million others.

Honestly, you are a LIAR!

Any SANE person who loves his mother would go nuts if anyone ever drew cartoon of the mother ********. And there is no such thing as freedom of speech if that speech is meant to hurt the sentiments of Billions of humans. Perhaps I shouldn't be judged either when I make a free speech declaration that the reaction to the drawing of cartoons was just and fair!

 

[MarkusS]

Honestly, you are a LIAR!

Any SANE person who loves his mother would go nuts if anyone ever drew cartoon of the mother ********. And there is no such thing as freedom of speech if that speech is meant to hurt the sentiments of Billions of humans. Perhaps I shouldn't be judged either when I make a free speech declaration that the reaction to the drawing of cartoons was just and fair!

No, because cartoons do not harm my mother. I can be angry. I can shout but i would never attack someone for this. I love my mother too much to act like a baboon. She would not want me to attack others physically for some stupid cartoons. Thats the difference between culture and barbarism. Don´t bother us with your islam. We can make as much cartoons about mohammed as we want. We are not muslims. Your religion is meaningless for us and we wil not bow infront your religion.