"Why have there been no [ISIS] bombings in Damascus? Why are they happening in Turkey?": Syrian MP a

[Saif al-Arab]

"Why have there been no [ISIS] bombings in Damascus? Why are they happening in Turkey?": Syrian MP admits Assad govt has infiltrated IS"​

https://twitter.com/x/status/817055998116589570

I am not trying to start a conspiracy theory (ISIS relations to the Al-Assad regime have been proven long ago without a shadow of doubt) here but it is interesting that this relation is now openly admitted by pro-Assad Syrian politicians. Not some average MP but the Secretary of the Syrian Parliament.

So the question is if the Al-Assad regime can infiltrate ISIS who else have done the same? Because let's be honest here if the Al-Assad regime is able to infiltrate the group what stops others from doing the same?

So when people of the region and Muslims worldwide wonder why ISIS is yet to attack Iran (something Kurdish, Baloch and Arab separatists do on a fairly frequent basis) even once and why all their actions serve Iranian interests, people are called conspiracy nuts. Similar to how it was when the first accusations of Al-Assad-ISIS cooperation appeared.

Yes, a few hundred Iranian nationals have in fact joined ISIS as well (mainly Iranian Kurds but also Iranian Baloch) so that excuse is not valid and apparently Iranian security has prevented "many" terrorist attacks by local ISIS members/sympathizers.

I am sure that the truth will one day be exposed and many more dirty secrets will come to light.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Its not small secret that Assad has cooperated with Daesh against rebels.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Most of the ISIS fighters in Syria are former FSA fighters.

I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS was infiltrated by various intelligence agencies from around the world.

In any case, I find it hard to believe that al-Assad wanted a group like ISIS to take over most of his country and bring about the de facto fragmentation of Syria.

From a geopolitical point of view, the only country that benefits from the breakup of Syria (and Iraq) is the United States.

 

[Asghar1234]

Saudi, Qatar, US, Jordan and Turkey did not not create IS, Qaeda and FSA but Bashar Assad made them in Arab spring!!!!! Yes!

More: http://www.collective-evolution.com...-after-pics-reveal-what-war-has-done-to-syria

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Most of the ISIS fighters in Syria are former FSA fighters.

I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS was infiltrated by various intelligence agencies from around the world.

In any case, I find it hard to believe that al-Assad wanted a group like ISIS to take over most of his country and bring about the de facto fragmentation of Syria.

From a geopolitical point of view, the only country that benefits from the breakup of Syria (and Iraq) is the United States.

Do you have substantial/serious proof of that first claim?

ISIS established itself after venturing into Eastern Syria from Western Iraq.

Fragmentation in Syria was just a question of time as a minority like Kurds for instance only existed on paper.

Moreover there are numerous reasons to why Al-Assad would want to support ISIS to the point that his opposition would lose recognition in the world and be infiltrated/dominated by Islamists that cannot be reasoned with.

This is also why Al-Assad deliberately released Islamists and criminals from Syrian prisons within the first year of the conflict.

http://europe.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helped-forge-isis-255631?rm=eu

http://www.thenational.ae/world/syr...n-to-fire-up-trouble-during-peaceful-uprising

The same ISIS has been caught selling oil to the Al-Assad regime.

The same Al-Assad regimes would want to see ISIS, FSA and Kurds fighting against each other.

In fact the Al-Assad regime was a key supporter of the Iraqi resistance, Al-Qaeda in Iraq as well, from as far back as 2003. Al-Qaeda training camps were operating openly in Syria.

So no, I don't buy those arguments and the US could not care less if Syria remained as it is or was divided into 3 states. Same story with almost every country in the region.

Anyway this discussion is pointless as we actually have the word of a Syrian MP (Secretary of the Syrian Parliament) making those comments on Syrian TV in public for all to see.

But, but innocent Assad and Mullah's can do no wrong of course!

As for the photos posted most of those cities and monuments have been destroyed by the Al-Assad regime.

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

Most of the ISIS fighters in Syria are former FSA fighters.

I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS was infiltrated by various intelligence agencies from around the world.

In any case, I find it hard to believe that al-Assad wanted a group like ISIS to take over most of his country and bring about the de facto fragmentation of Syria.

From a geopolitical point of view, the only country that benefits from the breakup of Syria (and Iraq) is the United States.

Assad did not wanted IS to TAKE OVER syria, they have used to IS to weaken the rebellion and harm the cause of their struggle. And as the MP implies in the video, now they have leverage against Turkey and Jordan in the form of IS.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Bashar Assad created ISIS!!! Yes!

He did all of this for his own amusement lol.

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

Bashar Assad created ISIS!!! Yes!

Ironic, you are posting the picture of destruction caused by Assad and his allied Iran and Russian mercenaries.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Do you have substantial/serious proof of that first claim?

It's all over the internet. Just Google it. Here are a few examples:

1. 'Lots of our officers joined ISIS due to ideology’ – FSA commander to RT
https://www.rt.com/news/319956-fsa-general-russia-syria/

2. US-Backed 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army Factions Join ISIS Terror Group
http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...rmy-factions-join-islamic-state-terror-group/

3. FSA brigade 'joins al-Qaeda group' in Syria
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/09/2013920164342453621.html

4. FSA on the outside, ISIS on the inside
http://www.anfenglish.com/special/fsa-on-the-outside-isis-on-the-inside

5. Entire 1,000 man US backed and funded FSA outfit joins ISIS
http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/07/entire-1000-man-us-back-and-funded-fsa-outfit-joins-isis/

6. 3,000 FSA Fighters Defect to ISIS in the Qalamoun Mountains
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/3000-fsa-fighters-defect-isis-qalamoun-mountains/

Thousands upon thousands of FSA fighters have defected to ISIS over the last 3-4 years.

ISIS established itself after venturing into Eastern Syria from Western Iraq.

Yes, ISIS originated in Iraq, but it gained a lot of Syrian FSA fighters after it entered Syria in 2013.

Fragmentation in Syria was just a question of time as a minority like Kurds for instance only existed on paper.

Moreover there are numerous reasons to why Al-Assad would want to support ISIS to the point that his opposition would lose recognition in the world and be infiltrated/dominated by Islamists that cannot be reasoned with.

This is also why Al-Assad deliberately released Islamists and criminals from Syrian prisons within the first year of the conflict.

http://europe.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helped-forge-isis-255631?rm=eu

http://www.thenational.ae/world/syr...n-to-fire-up-trouble-during-peaceful-uprising

The same ISIS has been caught selling oil to the Al-Assad regime.

The same Al-Assad regimes would want to see ISIS, FSA and Kurds fighting against each other.

In fact the Al-Assad regime was a key support of the Iraqi resistance, Al-Qaeda in Iraq as well, from as far back as 2003.

So no, I don't buy those arguments and the US could not care less if Syria remained as it is or was divided into 3 states. Same story with almost every country in the region.

Anyway this discussion is pointless as we actually have the word of a Syrian MP (Secretary of the Syrian Parliament) making those comments on Syrian TV in public for all to see.

Al-Assad also released those prisoners because that's what the FSA opposition leaders told him to do in exchange for peace.

Now, I do not doubt that al-Assad has played a double game with ISIS. In fact, everyone has played a double game with ISIS over the years, including the Turks, Jordanians, and Israelis.

That said, I doubt al-Assad is working closely with ISIS.

But there's no doubt that all factions in the Syrian war are opportunistic. They'll forge temporary ties with anyone for the sake of survival.

 

[HAIDER]

In Syria, dozens killed as bombers strike in Homs and Damascus, regime says

(CNN)ISIS has claimed responsibility for multiple attacks in strongholds of the Syrian regime Sunday that killed at least 122 people and scores of others injured, according to Syria's state-run SANA news agency.

The separate car bomb and suicide attacks happened in Homs and southern Damascus, Syrian state media reported, citing local officials and security sources.

"Why have there been no [ISIS] bombings in Damascus? Why are they happening in Turkey?": Syrian MP admits Assad govt has infiltrated IS"​

https://twitter.com/x/status/817055998116589570

I am not trying to start a conspiracy theory (ISIS relations to the Al-Assad regime have been proven long ago without a shadow of doubt) here but it is interesting that this relation is now openly admitted by pro-Assad Syrian politicians. Not some average MP but the Secretary of the Syrian Parliament.

So the question is if the Al-Assad regime can infiltrate ISIS who else have done the same? Because let's be honest here if the Al-Assad regime is able to infiltrate the group what stops others from doing the same?

So when people of the region and Muslims worldwide wonder why ISIS is yet to attack Iran (something Kurdish, Baloch and Arab separatists do on a fairly frequent basis) even once and why all their actions serve Iranian interests, people are called conspiracy nuts. Similar to how it was when the first accusations of Al-Assad-ISIS cooperation appeared.

Yes, a few hundred Iranian nationals have in fact joined ISIS as well (mainly Iranian Kurds but also Iranian Baloch) so that excuse is not valid and apparently Iranian security has prevented "many" terrorist attacks by local ISIS members/sympathizers.

I am sure that the truth will one day be exposed and many more dirty secrets will come to light.

Long ago Pakistani used to say , never feed the snake for others, it always bite back. Example Taliban.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

It's all over the internet. Just Google it. Here are a few examples:

1. 'Lots of our officers joined ISIS due to ideology’ – FSA commander to RT
https://www.rt.com/news/319956-fsa-general-russia-syria/

2. US-Backed 'Moderate' Free Syrian Army Factions Join ISIS Terror Group
http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...rmy-factions-join-islamic-state-terror-group/

3. FSA brigade 'joins al-Qaeda group' in Syria
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/09/2013920164342453621.html

4. FSA on the outside, ISIS on the inside
http://www.anfenglish.com/special/fsa-on-the-outside-isis-on-the-inside

5. Entire 1,000 man US backed and funded FSA outfit joins ISIS
http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/07/entire-1000-man-us-back-and-funded-fsa-outfit-joins-isis/

6. 3,000 FSA Fighters Defect to ISIS in the Qalamoun Mountains
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/3000-fsa-fighters-defect-isis-qalamoun-mountains/

Thousands upon thousands of FSA fighters have defected to ISIS over the last 3-4 years.


Yes, ISIS originated in Iraq, but it gained a lot of Syrian FSA fighters after it entered Syria in 2013.


Al-Assad also released those prisoners because that's what the FSA opposition leaders told him to do in exchange for peace.

Now, I do not doubt that al-Assad has played a double game with ISIS. In fact, everyone has played a double game with ISIS over the years, including the Turks, Jordanians, and Israelis.

That said, I doubt al-Assad is working closely with ISIS.

But there's no doubt that all factions in the Syrian war are opportunistic. They'll forge temporary ties with anyone for the sake of survival.

Some FSA members might have defected to ISIS but to say that "most of the ISIS members were former FSA fighters" is inaccurate. The Iraqi ISIS members were never FSA fighters. Neither were 90% of all the foreign fighters who have joined ISIS throughout the years.

I don't know about FSA ever demanding that but even if they did do you think that he did it without having what I wrote in mind? Of course not.

Anyway previously the Syrian regime categorically denied cooperation with ISIS in any shape or form, especially when they were not advancing, but now when the situation has changed somewhat, they are openly admitting their relation with ISIS. So to think that other players in the region have not similarly infiltrated ISIS or are working with them, including Iran, is quite naive IMO.

In fact I would go on to say that had Al-Assad not ruled Syria from 2000 to 2017 there would not be ISIS today and at least if it existed it would be a small group.

Let's go back to the year 2003.

Iraq is about to get invaded. Two "axis of evil" in Syria and Iran border Iraq. Al-Assad decides to arm the Iraqi resistance (mostly composed of Iraqi Sunni Arabs and former soldiers who lost their jobs overnight) to target the US. He established training camps in Syria to train Al-Qaeda members and foreigners and Iraqis/Syrians joining the fight against the US in Iraq.

Ever since that time the Iraqi-Syrian border has bene completely lawless. As the only border of Iraq. Iran could not have facilitated the rise of Al-Qaeda back in 2003 (although they supported Shia Arab Islamists groups in Southern Iraq who fought the US - for instance Mahdi army etc. when they were at their highest) nor could Turkey as Turkey borders Iraqi Kurdistan that was largely untouched throughout the war.

Jordan is a staunch US ally (the Jordanian-Iraqi border is also small) and the US has troops and close contact with the Jordanian rulers. To think that Jordan would support Al-Qaeda/ISIS under the watch of the Americans is also unreasonable. Same story with Kuwait (US base moreover) and KSA.

That leaves Syria.

When the Syrian uprising/civil war began in late 2010/early 2011, the lawless Iraqi-Syrian border provided easy flow of weapons, fighters and money. Without a harm in the world.

So it is ironical that Al-Assad claims to be some hero on a horse in terms of fighting terrorism and radical Islamism given his key role in the rise of such groups.

Not to say that the mere presence of Al-Assad gives fuel to Islamists. So if the world wants to defeat or at least contain ISIS, they should look at removing Al-Assad as one of the first things.

Much of what I wrote above are well-known facts and Syrian officers caught in Iraq tell a similar story.

This is an example of a Syrian officer (spy) caught in Iraq back in 2005 who aided Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Similarly we now have visual proof of a high-ranking Syrian politician admitting ties to ISIS post 2011.

Before that people were called conspiracy nuts for stating the obvious. I remember this vividly.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Some FSA members might have defected to ISIS but to say that "most of the ISIS members were former FSA fighters" is inaccurate. The Iraqi ISIS members were never FSA fighters. Neither were 90% of all the foreign fighters who have joined ISIS throughout the years.

People are exaggerating the number of foreigners fighting for ISIS, by the way.

Most of the ISIS fighters in Syria are Syrians, and most in Iraq are Iraqis. The ones in Syria used to be members of the FSA but ended up defecting to ISIS.

In fact, even to this day, there are many ISIS sleeper agents posing as FSA fighters. That's why ISIS is still able to successfully launch repeated attacks against areas held by the Turkish army in the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor. They wouldn't be able to attack Turkish soldiers in places like Azaz or Akhtarin unless they had many FSA fighters secretly working with them.

I don't know about FSA ever demanding that but even if they did do you think that he did it without having what I wrote in mind? Of course not.

I'm sure he wanted it to lead to more radicalization. No doubt about it.

Al-Assad is an incredibly smart person. The Americans have massively underestimated his intelligence, and are now paying the price for it.

Anyway previously the Syrian regime categorically denied cooperation with ISIS in any shape or form, especially when they were not advancing, but now when the situation has changed somewhat, they are openly admitting their relation with ISIS. So to think that other players in the region have not similarly infiltrated ISIS or are working with them, including ISIS, is quite naive IMO.

Exactly. They're all guilty, which is why I don't support any side in the Syrian war. They're all bad.

That said, I also don't want to fall into the trap of false equivalence. Some regional players have clearly worked much closer with ISIS than others.

In fact I would go on to say that had Al-Assad not ruled Syria from 2000 to 2017 there would not be ISIS today and at least if it existed it would be a small group.

Let's go back to the year 2003.

Iraq is about to get invaded. Two "axis of evil" in Syria and Iran border Iraq. Al-Assad decides to arm the Iraqi resistance (mostly composed of Iraqi Sunni Arabs and former soldiers who lost their jobs overnight) to target the US. He established training camps in Syria to train Al-Qaeda members and foreigners and Iraqis/Syrians joining the fight against the US in Iraq.

Ever since that time the Iraqi-Syrian border has bene completely lawless. As the only border of Iraq. Iran could not have facilitated the rise of Al-Qaeda back in 2003 (although they supported Shia Arab Islamists groups in Southern Iraq who fought the US - for instance Mahdi army etc. when they were at their highest) nor could Turkey as Turkey borders Iraqi Kurdistan that was largely untouched throughout the war.

Jordan is a staunch US ally (the Jordanian-Iraqi border is also small) and the US has troops and close contact with the Jordanian rulers. To think that Jordan would support Al-Qaeda/ISIS under the watch of the Americans is also unreasonable. Same story with Kuwait (US base moreover) and KSA.

That leaves Syria.

When the Syrian uprising/civil war began in late 2010/early 2011, the lawless Iraqi-Syrian border provided easy flow of weapons, fighters and money. Without a harm in the world.

So it is ironical that Al-Assad claims to be some hero on a horse in terms of fighting terrorism and radical Islamism given his key role in the rise of such groups.

Not to say that the mere presence of Al-Assad gives fuel to Islamists. So if the world wants to defeat or at least contain ISIS, they should look at removing Al-Assad as one of the first things.

Much of what I wrote above are well-known facts and Syrian officers caught in Iraq tell a similar story.

This is an example of a Syrian officer (spy) caught in Iraq back in 2005 who aided Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Similarly we now have visual proof of a high-ranking Syrian politician admitting ties to ISIS post 2011.

Oh I definitely agree that the Syrian government played a negative role in Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein. Just a few days ago, I read an old article from 2009 that predicted that Assad's policy of supporting insurgents in Iraq would one day come back to bite him, and sure enough it did.

Here's a link to the article:

https://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/2009/02/28/syrias-role-in-the-iraq-insurgency/

What goes around comes around, as they say.

Unfortunately, it's not just Syria though. So many countries in the Greater Middle East have played this dirty game, which is exactly why every country is suffering some kind of a blowback.

That's another reason why I don't support any country in this godforsaken region.

Saddam should also be blamed for this, to be honest. In the 1990s, he promoted Islamism throughout Iraq:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_campaign

The so-called "faith campaign" allowed many radical Islamists to infiltrate the Baathist government in Iraq.

 

[Madali]

I don't know Arabic so I don't know what is said in the video, but in English, do you know what infiltrate means? It doesn't mean that the group is now under your control, it means that you might have insiders there. That's what every group tries to do with their enemies.

On a nation level, country's police forces try to infiltrate criminal gangs. This does not mean that the criminal gangs than become a governmental entity.

I would hope, and expect, that our country has infiltrated a lot of our enemies. It would be very helpful for our security if we have spies or agents or informants in different groups. So, if ISIS tries to bomb us and is planning something, maybe on of them is being paid by Iran for information, so they sneak out the information to the people who are paying them, and Iran is then able to proactively defend against it.

Frankly, @Saif al-Arab , I'm extremely positive that Saudi Arabia has infiltrated a lot of ISIS groups in KSA. That is why we see them being able to do raids and stop them well in advance (like the article that was posted today). This is positive, not negative.

Of course, this is what I understood from the translation of "infiltrated". If something else was meant in Arabic, then please ignore my post.

 

[T-Rex]

Most of the ISIS fighters in Syria are former FSA fighters.

I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS was infiltrated by various intelligence agencies from around the world.

In any case, I find it hard to believe that al-Assad wanted a group like ISIS to take over most of his country and bring about the de facto fragmentation of Syria.

From a geopolitical point of view, the only country that benefits from the breakup of Syria (and Iraq) is the United States.

***-head didn't want Daesh to take over Syria, he wanted it to pose as FSA. In other words, he wanted Daesh to take over the rebellion against him so that he could paint the rebellion as terrorism.

 

[Friendly]

Very wise question.
Also nothing happened e.g. in Athens, Bukarest, Sofia, Kisinev and so on.... they have much weaker Police and Intelligence Services;
seems social and economic engineering in some specific key countries was triggered.