Why Does India Lag So Far Behind China?

[RiazHaq]

In absolute numbers, extreme poverty in India according to worldbank, is about 1%. According to your figures, it is 34 million for India, which is little more than 2%. Pakistan's stands at 1.9 million, is less than 1%, has done better than India in multi dimensional poverty, but if you look at overall poverty, it has increased to 36%. In case of India overall poverty has decreased to 12%.

Extreme poverty (people living below $2.15 day in 2017 PPP dollars) in India is 10% while it is 4.9% in Pakistan, according to the World Bank.

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[Tafob]

We literally see it all the time.
A mule comes from a Horse and Donkey. two species making a baby.


So is India having some of the most malnourished kids on earth karma for genociding their Muslims?

How shameless does pakistani mulims have to be when their Hindu population has reduced from 20.5% in 1947 to less than 1% today ?

Muslim population in India GREW from 9.8% in 1947 to 14.2 % in 2011.

So we all know who is the one doing GENOCIDE and Karma is a real bitch.

 

[beijingwalker]

It is not India behind China, It is China pulling ahead of India. How did that happen? 2 factors

1. US companies like Walmart providing huge orders and exploited slave labor in China
2. Chinese state supported companies simply stealing IP, designs and undercutting original inventors and designers

LOL, self deluded Indian, isn't walmart open to have orders from all over the world including India? They were sanctioning India ? slave labors? whose workers are in worse working conditions? your child labor is a shame on this planet, do you even know it?
40 years ago there was no IP and Indians are not known as saints when it comes to honesty.

Realistically, India is only lagging behind approximately 15 years. If you look at where China was around 2005 to 2010, that's where India is on the curve.

In 2008 Beijing hosted the Olympic Game and Shanghai was already one of the world most modern looking cities, China had already a manufacturing powerhouse with massive trade and surplus around the world, Obama in 2008 US president election had already claimed that China was ahead of US in infrastructure. none of them you can see in today's India.

 

[Yaoudelizard]

Short answer: India is an open air slum populated with dumb lazy people.

 

[Indos]

How shameless does pakistani mulims have to be when their Hindu population has reduced from 20.5% in 1947 to less than 1% today ?

Muslim population in India GREW from 9.8% in 1947 to 14.2 % in 2011.

So we all know who is the one doing GENOCIDE and Karma is a real bitch.

There is no genocide happening in both Pakistan for their Hindu population and also in India administrated Kashmir for its Muslim population.

Only fool who believe with their political leader who said so without credible prove

International media and agency would know that either if it is the actual case

Those Pakistani Hindu were migrating and see themselves as Indians like current British PM

 

[Tafob]

Extreme poverty (people living below $2.15 day in 2017 PPP dollars) in India is 10% while it is 4.9% in Pakistan, according to the World Bank.

World Bank Open Data

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In India, the number of people living in extreme poverty -- defined by the World Bank as living on US$1.9 or less in purchasing power parity (PPP) terms -- was 0.8% of the population in the pre-pandemic year 2019, stated the IMF paper, published on April 5, 2022.​

India has almost wiped out extreme poverty: International Monetary Fund​

There is no genocide happening in both Pakistan for their Hindu population and also in India administrated Kashmir for its Muslim population.

Only fool who believe with their political leader who said so without credible prove

International media and agency would know that either if it is the actual case

Those Pakistani Hindu were migrating and see themselves as Indians like current British PM

LOL. SO 20% of pakistani population "migrated" ? To where ? And WHY did they migrate out of pakistan ?

And why did the muslims population India NOT migrate ?

DENIAL is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[Leishangthem]

Indians are inferior human race ,east asians and europeans are a class above them .
Gene/race matter when aggregate quality of a nation is concerned.

China was always bound to thrive far ahead like other east asian nation in confucius sphere.

 

[beijingwalker]

Indians are inferior human race ,east asians are and europeans are a class above them .

China was always bound to thrive far ahread like other east asian nation in confucius sphere.

We are all humans, basically no much difference, the development gap is due to the difference in cultural and social structure and managerment system

 

[Leishangthem]

We are all humans, basically no much difference, the development gap is due to the difference in cultural and social structure and managerment system

Difference in cultural and social structure and managerment system is caused by differences in inherent natural tendencies of people with certain genetic traits.
Of course it can be improved somewhat with import of ideology and practices,but the class will still differ. Some human groups can't naturally device nor conform to the cultural and social structure that are seen in developed east asia and europe ,nor can they operate effectively a management system as seen in advanced Europe and East asia.
Indians have to study and learn what comes naturally to CN,JP,KR,TW,SG. So India have inherent disadvantage.

You can train a rottweiler to be a game dog but a pure bred apbt or tosa will always be a class of its own as game breed.All states shows a level of natural tendencies of their population genepool.

 

[Tafob]

We are all humans, basically no much difference, the development gap is due to the difference in cultural and social structure and managerment system

lol. Why are you having a conversation with yourself ?

WE both know he is a wumao like you.

 

[beijingwalker]

Difference in cultural and social structure and managerment system is caused by differences in inherent natural tendencies of people with certain genetic traits.
Of course it can be improved somewhat with import of ideology and practices,but the class will still differ. Some human groups can't naturally device nor conform to the cultural and social structure that are seen in developed east asia and europe ,nor can they operate effectly a management system as seen in advanced Europe and East asia.
Indians have to study and learn what comes naturally to CN,JP,KR,TW,SG. So India have inherent disadvantage.

You can train a rottweiler to be a game dog but a pure bred apbt or tosa will always be a class of its own as game breed.All states shows a level of natural tendencies of their population genepool.

I don't believe in racism crap, Europeans used to be the least developed bunch in the world and they used to call Chinese dumb subhumans with low intelligence. nations rise and fall, it can't be more natural, got nothing to do with their genes.

lol. Why are you having a conversation with yourself ?

WE both know he is a wumao like you.

like you you mean?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@RiazHaq

Brofessor sb,

Excellent article but one which doesnt actually answer the question you asked : Why Does India Lag So Far Behind China? You have given us a whole smorgasbord of data showing that PRC is superior to India. But I wish a commentator of your stature had taken some time to answer why it became superior to India in the first place?

There would be another question for you to ponder over. Why is that PRC inspite of being your taller than mountain, deeper than the ocean and sweeter than honey friend, failed to inculcate the same spirit in your country than it did in its own land?

Regards

 

[Leishangthem]

I don't believe in racism crap, Europeans used to be the least developed bunch in the world and they used to call Chinese dumb subhumans with low intelligence. nations rise and fall, it can't be more natural, got nothing to do with their genes.


like you you mean?
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Such science and stats backed facts is inconvenient to speak from a political or moral police pov.
But denying a fundamental cause regarding the said topic ,just makes the whole discussion less effective.

Blacks has inherent advantage in sprinting ,due to their more developed ligament muscles ,similarity some other race shows inherent advantages in other aspects.

Humans are still evolving,but some race in certain geographic location just scale the ladder faster and has better genetic traits,will gene editing & genetic mixing alter that in future? We don't know ,but for now ,that's how they are.

 

[Tafob]

The princely states of India were mostly ruled by incompetent maharajas who didn't care about anything apart from personal wealth ( barring a few good ones)
Nizam of Hyderabad was among the richest person at that time but didn't care much about general wellbeing of his populace.

That is NOT true. Citizens of princely states were FAR better off than those living directly under british rule. In fact during famins, most Indians used to migrate into these princely states to escape british horrors.

Here is What just ONE hindu king did in his brief rule and it is MORE than the achievements of the ENTIRE MUGHAL Empire and dynasty.

Hindu King Krishnaraja Wadiyar was the pioneer of India's development. He pushed India towards modern development. He was the Maharaja of Mysore(1902-1940). Devoted to his dharma and his subjects, he was an extremely pious Hindu king. A "Rajarshi".

The prosperity of Bangalore's software sector and lives of millions today is indebted to his vision.

When Maharaja ascended the throne, Bangalore was relatively a very modest settlement. Here is some data: In 1901, Bangalore's population was 162K. In comparison, Hyderabad's population was 448K. Mumbai : 813K. Bangalore was smaller than Amritsar, Allahabad, Varanasi & Agra!

Maharaja pledged his life for the welfare of people, investing all his resources to this end. The results were stunning. In 1905, Bangalore became FIRST city in entire Asia to get electric street lights. It stands to this day in KR Market, Bengaluru

1903-1913: Minto eye hospital was built in Banglore. It was one of the first specialty eye hospitals of the world. This magnificent building was constructed by the Maharaja. The hospital had beds to accommodate 300 eye patients This news shocked the Nizam of Hyderabad

1909: India's premier education institute, IISC founded in Bangalore. The Maharaja donated 371 acres of land and 550,000 Rupees for the capital of IISC. He funded & appointed teachers. He used to personally inspect the campus. This was 44 years BEFORE the foundation of IITs.

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd(HAL): HAL is one of the oldest & largest Aircraft & defense manufacturers in the world. It was Maharaja's vision.Seeking engineers & industrlialists,he sponsored the project. HAL was built in Bangalore in his reign & completed 3 months after his death

Victoria Hospital Bangalore. It was the first hospital in entire India to provide 24/7 emergency services. This hospital was established by the Maharaja in 1901.

He also contributed to Banaras Hindu University

He and was the First Chancellor of the BHU, he brought a reservation system in jobs in Karnataka even before independence

Another big accomplishment is the construction of KRS Dam during his period, it is told that the royal family sold their gold to arrange funds for this. This dam stands tall even today, and is the major source for water for Bengaluru, and for agriculture in kavery belt.

He also introduced Compulsory primary education
Under him, The State Bank of Mysore was established in 1913
Under him, The Bangalore Agricultural University was also established in 1913
Under him, The Kannada Sahitya Parishat was established in 1915
Under him, The Mysore University was established in 1916

 

[d00od00o]

THIS is china,

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Its one Huge Jail.

Pretty sure NO BODY in India would want India to catch up to china.



congratulations for living in the worlds largest jail.

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Covid-19: India's holiest river is swollen with bodies​

19 May 2021


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Funeral pyres are lit by the Ganges in Allahabad, where bodies have been washing downstream for days
By Geeta Pandey
BBC News, Delhi
India's holiest river, the Ganges, has been swollen with bodies in recent days.
Hundreds of corpses have been found floating in the river or buried in the sand of its banks. Those who live close to where they have washed up, in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, fear they are Covid-19 victims.
India has been overwhelmed by a devastating second wave of the pandemic in recent weeks. It has recorded more than 25 million cases and 275,000 deaths, but experts say the real death toll is several times higher.
The bodies on the river banks, taken together with funeral pyres burning round-the-clock and cremation grounds running out of space, tell the story of a death toll unseen and unacknowledged in official data.
The BBC spoke to local reporters, officials, and eyewitnesses in some of the worst affected districts of Uttar Pradesh and found that behind the story of the floating bodies lies traditional beliefs, poverty, and a pandemic killing people at lightning speed.

River beds dotted with graves​

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The horror in Uttar Pradesh first came to light on 10 May when 71 corpses washed up on the river bank in Bihar's Chausa village, near the state border.

Neeraj Kumar Singh, superintendent of police for Buxar, where Chausa is located, told the BBC that autopsies were carried out on the mostly decomposed bodies, DNA samples were taken, and the bodies buried in pits near the river bank.
Officials said some of the remains could be body parts which had found their way into the Ganges after routine cremations on the banks, but they suspected the corpses had been dumped in the river. The police installed a net across the water to catch any more.
A day later, six miles (10km) from Chausa, dozens of heavily decomposed bodies were found strewn on the river bank in Gahmar village in Uttar Pradesh's Ghazipur district, with feral dogs and crows feasting on them.

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Hundreds of corpses have been found floating in the river or buried in the sand of its banks.

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Local people said the bodies had been washing up on embankments for several days, but authorities had ignored their complaints about the stench until the news about the corpses found downstream in Bihar hit the headlines.
Dozens of bloated and decomposed bodies floating in the river also greeted villagers in the neighbouring Ballia district when they went for their morning dip in India's most sacred river. The Hindustan newspaper reported that police retrieved 62 corpses.
In Kannauj, Kanpur, Unnao, and Prayagraj, the river bed is dotted with shallow graves. Videos sent to the BBC from the Mehndi ghat embankment in Kannauj show scores of human-sized mounds. Many look just like a bump in the river bed, but each one hides a body. At the nearby Mahadevi ghat, at least 50 bodies were found.

A 'massive' discrepancy in the death toll​

Traditionally, Hindus cremate their dead. But many communities follow what is known as "Jal Pravah" - the practice of floating in the river the bodies of children, unwed girls, or those who die from infectious diseases or snake bites.
Many poor people also cannot afford cremation, and so they wrap the body in white muslin and push it into the water. Sometimes, the bodies are tied to stones to ensure they remain submerged, but as many are floated without weights. In normal times, corpses floating in the Ganges are not an uncommon sight.

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Funeral pyres are seen along the banks of the Ganges in Garhmukteshwar, Uttar Pradesh
What is rare is that so many are turning up in such a short time, and in so many places along the river bank. A journalist in Kanpur told the BBC the corpses were evidence of a "massive discrepancy between the official Covid-19 death figures and the actual numbers on the ground".
He said officially 196 people had died from the virus in Kanpur between 16 April and 5 May, but the data from seven crematoriums showed nearly 8,000 cremations.
"All electric crematoriums were running 24/7 in April. Even that was not enough, so the administration allowed the grounds outside to be used for cremations using wood," he said.
"But they only accepted bodies that were coming from hospitals with Covid-19 certificates, and a huge number of people were dying at home, without getting any tests. Their families took the bodies to the outskirts of the city or to neighbouring districts like Unnao. When they couldn't find wood or a cremation spot, they just buried them on the river bed."
A journalist in Prayagraj said he believed that many of the bodies were either Covid patients who died at home without a test, or poor people who couldn't afford a cremation.
"It is heartbreaking," he said. "All these people were someone's son, daughter, brother, father and mother. They deserved some respect in death. But they have not even become part of the statistics - they died unknown and were buried unknown."

Burials from 7am to 11pm​

The discovery of the graves and rotting bodies, and the fear that they could be infected with the coronavirus, has sent shockwaves through the villages along the river's banks.
Originating in the Himalayas, the Ganges is one of the world's largest rivers. Hindus consider it sacred, they believe that bathing in Ganges will cleanse their sins and use its water for religious rituals.
In Kannauj, Jagmohan Tiwari, a 63-year-old villager, told a local channel that he had seen "150-200 graves" on the river bed. "The burials have been going on from 7am to 11pm," he said. "It is soul destroying."

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A relative of a a victim stands near the banks of the river while bodies are cremated in Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh
The discovery of the graves has triggered panic in the area. People fear that the bodies buried on the surface will begin to float in the river once it rains and the water levels rise.
Last Wednesday, the state government banned "Jal Pravah" and offered funds to poor families unable to afford cremations. In many places, police have been pulling corpses out of the river with sticks and recruiting boatmen to bring them ashore. There, the decomposed bodies are either buried in pits or burnt on funeral pyres.
Vipin Tada, the superintendent of police in Ballia, said they were talking to village council leaders to make them aware that bodies should not be floated in the rivers and that those who could not afford a cremation could seek financial help.
Ghazipur District Magistrate Mangala Prasad Singh told the BBC that teams were patrolling embankments and cremation grounds to stop people from dumping bodies in water or burying them.
But his team is still finding one or two bodies in the river every day.
"We have been performing their final rites, as per rituals," he said.
Additional reporting by Soutik Biswas and Vikas Pandey

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