Why does China keep supporting Burma in the Rohingya crisis?

[Major 13625]

Why not BAL is playing whore in international politics Thats why china and even indian dont support BD in rohingya crisis. Its a shame for us. And butthead syed amar khan is spreading rumours in BDmilitary that we are getting blah blah etc to blow up MM. Its time we should accept BD is f*** up.

 

[Fortress]

You are talking out of context. A Treaty is not a Treaty unless it is signed by the concerned parties. China Harbour Engineering was playing its politics at the insistence of the Chinese govt. It was not supposed to come without first getting a Contract. China is helping Burma because it needs gas from there.

What benefits BD can get by giving extra leverage to China? It is time that BD plays a strong Rohingya role in Arakan with the help of US-Japan axis, create an autonomous region there and deny China the gas fields and deep seaport. BD is weak, but the local population of any region is not weak. Another strength of Arakan is it is geographically separated from Burma by the Yommu mountains at the east.

Japan is supporting Myanmar as well. They are using their diplomatic prowess on Myanmurder's side to tackle international sanctions.

Japan, China and India are all on the side of Myanmar because the Muslim world are complete selfish morons who show no desire to to tell them otherwise.

The difference between Myanmar and the other countries—be they India, China or Israel who are targeting Muslim communities—is that the latter have power and leverage. If the Muslim world wanted they could EASILY slap pressure regarding Myanmar because the Muslim world are a far greater trade and strategic partner to China, India, Russia and Japan than puny Myanmar. We have the leverage in this case but not using it.

 

[Nilgiri]

It is time that BD plays a strong Rohingya role in Arakan with the help of US-Japan axis, create an autonomous region there and deny China the gas fields and deep seaport.

Please explain what you mean by "denying" with "strong Rohingya role". Is it going to be something civilised and direct?

@Chinese-Dragon @rott @TaiShang @Aung Zaya @kankan326 @Jlaw

 

[haidian]

China sticks to non interference policy as she always does, what happens in Maynmar is their domestic issues and they didn't invade another country, China never agrees using sanctions against others cause sanctions themselves show arrogance and hegemony and can be easily used in wrong ways. China works with both Maynmar and BD to broker a peaceful deal and plays a very positive role in it. China knows exactly what'll happen when the western powers step in any crisis around the world, deaths, chaos and never ending conflicts and wars.

 

[Nilgiri]

China sticks to non interference policy as she always does, what happens in Maynmar is their domestic issues and they didn't invade another country, China never agrees using sanctions against others cause sanctions themselves show arrogance and hegemony and can be easily used in wrong ways. China works with both Maynmar and BD to broker a peaceful deal and plays a very positive role in it. China knows exactly what'll happen when the western powers step in any crisis around the world, deaths, chaos and never ending conflicts and wars.

BD members here are not buying what you are selling, just read these:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bipa...ocide-label-of-myanmar-killings.592677/page-2

"So, the Rohingyas should vie for Arakan to kick out China from the Sittwe gas fields."

 

[haidian]

BD members here are not buying what you are selling, just read these:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bipa...ocide-label-of-myanmar-killings.592677/page-2

"So, the Rohingyas should vie for Arakan to kick out China from the Sittwe gas fields."

Doesn't matter, they can claim that China kills millions of Rohingyas, but China will definitely still stick to her decades old foreign policies.

 

[Fortress]

China is building two pipelines in Myanmar, one to import gas directly from Myanmurder's gas well and the other as a pipeline intended to transit oil (crude and petrol) from the Middle East into Yunnan province. They are doing this to bypass the Malacca Strait. Chinese ships have to pass through Malaysia and beside neighboring SEA states before docking in China. With the pipeline, they intended to dock in Rakhine State and carry the oil to Yunnan, China.

Myanmar also plans to build Special Economic Zones in Rakhine as well, because they see the area as one they wish to develop in coming decades.

This is also a major factor behind why the Myanmurder regime has been aggressively hastening it's ethnic cleansing in Rakhine.

- 1. It is to distract the ethnic Arakanese population in a divide and conquer strategy. Rakhine is the least developed area of Mynamar, so they used Rohingyas as a distraction for decades. Instead of people targeting the Burmese state over impoverishment they are busy attacking Rohingya and fighting among each other.

- 2. The pipelines and SEZ development have caused environmental problems and homelessness, both among Arakanese and Rohingyas. By pushing out the Rohingya, they don't need to answer to anyone and they get free land (which Rohingya lived on) to use however they wish. And by having the Arakanese distracted with fighting the Rohingya, they will not complain about their own state landgrab and environmental issues.

- 3. With all these resources and development, you would have expected that the Rohingya would benefit from better treatment. Instead the Burmese agenda is to kick them out before the region is developed. And by proxy they are using the refugee crises to destabilize Bangladesh at the same time.

Why not BAL is playing whore in international politics Thats why china and even indian dont support BD in rohingya crisis. Its a shame for us. And butthead syed amar khan is spreading rumours in BDmilitary that we are getting blah blah etc to blow up MM. Its time we should accept BD is f*** up.

The Muslim world as a whole is led by cowards. That's why BD feels trapped and powerless. But I agree that BD needs to do more. That includes sending delegations, not to China but to other Muslim and Western states to press the matter. That is where BD has failed.

 

[Nilgiri]

Doesn't matter, they can claim that China kills millions of Rohingyas, but China will definitely still stick to her decades old foreign policies.

Burma is a natural partner for China. It upsets BD ppl a lot....they want you to only support them exclusively.

 

[haidian]

Their are ethnic Chinese rebel groups fighting in Myamar for independence or joining China and sometimes get cracked down by Myanmar government troops, China doesn't even support them, cause to China that's Myanmar's domestic issues.

 

[Fortress]

Their are ethnic Chinese rebel groups fighting in Myamar for independence or joining China and sometimes get cracked down by Myanmar government troops, China doesn't even support them, cause to China that's Myanmar's domestic issues.

Myanmar has a dozen ethnic rebellions and several dozen armed groups, and in the past the Burmese regime attacked ethnic Chinese for no reason simply as a sacrificial lamb as they have done with Rohingya for decades.

But the difference between all those ethnic groups and Rohingya is that the Rohingya have been the least violent and unarmed and yet targeted the most as a result. And also as a result, the Rohingya are the only one who are denied citizenship and regarded as stateless whereas the others are citizens and recently the Burmese regime has had peace talks with them. But before this recent turn of events, the Kokang people who are also ethnic Han did receive weapons and funding from China and Chinese overseas.

 

[haidian]

Myanmar has a dozen ethnic rebellions and several dozen armed groups, and in the past the Burmese regime attacked ethnic Chinese for no reason simply as a sacrificial lamb as they have done with Rohingya for decades.

But the difference between all those ethnic groups and Rohingya is that the Rohingya have been the least violent and unarmed and yet targeted the most as a result. And also as a result, the Rohingya are the only one who are denied citizenship and regarded as stateless whereas the others are citizens and recently the Burmese regime has had peace talks with them. But before this recent turn of events, the Kokang people who are also ethnic Han did receive weapons and funding from China and Chinese overseas.

I really doubt about it, it can be rumors saying this and that, if China wants to help them, they would've become part of China long time ago.

 

[Fortress]

I really doubt about it, it can be rumors saying this and that, if China wants to help them, they would've become part of China long time ago.

Kokang and various other rebel groups DID operate enclaves which they operated outside of Burmese rule. That's how the region became a Meth and Heroin powerhouse.

Just because PRC has the power to annex neighboring countries doesn't mean it will. That drags in the international community, plus why entangle yourself in a trans-national conflict? Chinese simply funded them from overseas.

China backed the 'Communist Party of Burma' and the 'Red Flag Communist Party' among other insurgent groups.

Ever heard of "China White" or the "Golden Triangle"? The Chinese Triads became world famous because of that during the 70s to 2000s. And guess where their main source was? Myanmar. These drugs were bought from Myanmar (from different sides of the conflict) and sold all over the world, from the US to Europe to Southeast Asia.

Myanmar is currently the second largest source of opium and the largest source of illegal amphetamines in Asia.

 

[CriticalThought]

Here is my reasoning about Chinese support for Myanmar, and their steps in Xinjiang. In both cases, a Western backed armed uprising created a security situation. In each case, the response was massive, and in each case the West left the Muslims to their own devices. Now they are using the disproportionate response as a means to politically attack China and its allies.

In all of this, the West is the real criminal, and they are continuing their criminal activities. They know full well that international uproar will never solve the situation. If they were sincere, they would either use back channel diplomacy to resolve the situation, or give outright armed support to the Muslims. Both solutions don't serve their vested interests, and hence, the continued plight of Muslims.

 

[Fortress]

Here is my reasoning about Chinese support for Myanmar, and their steps in Xinjiang. In both cases, a Western backed armed uprising created a security situation. In each case, the response was massive, and in each case the West left the Muslims to their own devices. Now they are using the disproportionate response as a means to politically attack China and its allies.

In all of this, the West is the real criminal, and they are continuing their criminal activities. They know full well that international uproar will never solve the situation. If they were sincere, they would either use back channel diplomacy to resolve the situation, or give outright armed support to the Muslims. Both solutions don't serve their vested interests, and hence, the continued plight of Muslims.

We can't blame the West for everything. The Muslim world is to blame for sitting by idle, as I explained above. We have all the leverage to pressure India and China but we don't.

If the Muslim states were in uproar about it, India and China would back off immediately because Myanmar's importance doesn't come close to the trade and strategic importance the Muslim world has to them and to the West. How can they give a shit if we don't?


Well let me tell you something. The so-called Ummah has never given a shit about Muslims in the last several centuries. The Ummah did nothing during the Bosnian Genocide of the 1990s, did nothing during the Crimean Tatar and Nakh genocides of the 1940s, did nothing during the Circassian Genocide in the mid 1800s. Today they ignore what's happening in Burma, and they don't give two shits about Kashmiris, Uighurs and even Palestinians. At least common people talk about Palestine, they don't even KNOW about these other genocides I just mentioned. How many Muslims know that Crimea use to be Muslim? How about Southern Vietnam? Ever heard of the Circassians?

 

[haidian]

they don't give two shits about Kashmiris, Uighurs and even Palestinians. At least common people talk about Palestine, they don't even KNOW about these other genocides I just mentioned. How many Muslims know that Crimea use to be Muslim? How about Southern Vietnam? Ever heard of the Circassians?

What do you know about Uyghurs? They live a much better life than any point in their history now and certainly way better than you Bangladeshi folks.