Why do Indian restaurants serve Muslim food?

[terry5]

I like bhuna gosht and tarka dhaal from Bangladeshi restaurants and a fish dish I think which is called Rui mass or something like that
Really nice making me hungry now

Pakistani food is all good even karela and bindi and thoree which I usually can’t stand elsewhere

Indian food ( Sikh/ Hindu ) I don’t eat as they spray cow urine on their samosas for blessings and no way hozay will I even look at their chutneys or pickles , you don’t know what’s floating in it .
Biryani from Indian Muslim is okay but nowhere near Pakistani or even Bangladesh versions .
Jamaican curries are another favourite of mine as they cook pretty much same as Pakistanis / Bangladeshi curries .
guyanese curry’s are also nice

trinidadian curries I can’t stand at all .

US desi food is nasty compared to desi dishes from UK and the rotis you find in New York restaurants are the worse .

can you tell I’m hungry lol

what a dumb topic

but if you must, why do most Bangladeshi kitchens refer to themselves as "Indian" food all over the UK and in NY, Toronto.. etc ? hmm ?

They speciality is mostly
Chicken tikka masala
Lamb tikka masala
Fish tikka masala
Beef tikka masala

all British Pakistani creations from Birmingham .

no chicken tikka masala in Pakistan ,india nor in Bangladesh as they won’t know what your on about if you asked for said item in the sub continent so it’s not like they sell Indian food just an invention for the whiteman

 

[313ghazi]

Why are many Bangladeshi and Pakistani owned restaurants in Britain branded as Indian?

1. Curry arrived in Britain in the 18th century, which colonialists who returned to Britain bring back their own versions of the recipes. These recipes of curry and rice became known as Indian food, as the British refered to their conquered territory as "India". https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-British-Curry/
   
   
2. When immigrants from the former colonial British India arrived in Britain and eventually went about setting up their own restaurants, they quickly came to realise that the British identified their cuisine as "Indian". Being pragmatists and mostly barely literate working class village folk, they continued with this terminology. The cuisine many of them sold was also a gora-fied version.

I feel that the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community lost the opportunity to develop their own brands. The general British public is not aware of the difference in our foods. I don't know what an authentic Bangladeshi dish is. I don't know the differences in the spices or mixes. The opportunity to develop that brand was lost, and in my opinion, even today is not utilised fully.

Pakistani community in the UK has the same problem. There are quite a few very authentic places, restuarants where you can get a top class karahi that takes you right back home - but they're still not marketing it properly. The pukhtun community have done well ok in this regard, they have Afghan restaurants or will give their restaurants names like Khyber or other pukhtun style names and have their own dishes. The wider British might not recognise the brand yet, but they will eventually.

The South Indian community has been excellent in this regard. These people came to the UK later, they came from more educated backgrounds and they never label their food as Indian - it's always South Indian. Their recipes and terminology is all authentic to them and they've built a brand. In the UK even Korean food is recognised as a brand, Etheopian food,

 

[PradoTLC]

I don’t eat as they spray cow urine on their samosas for blessings a

just lol x 10

 

[Azadkashmir]

behind the scene rss bjp is exporting beef to countries making fool out of panjeets.
then that beef lands in restaurant. i would create a cow purge day to reduce cow nuisance on the roads, to keep the numbers down.

 

[Saiful Islam]

I don't know anyone else, but for Bangladeshis they served as cooks on ships and bought this culinary skill to England. Making Indian food whether it be veggie or not was just for the sake of monetization, it was the fact they could understand curry making due to South Asian food being somewhat similar on the surface.

These days Bengali owners name it "Indian & Bangladeshi" mainly for the fact and let's not lie here, most of the Indian restaurant dishes on those menu's originate from either North/South/Central India but accompanied with a separate Bangladeshi menu list (usually on the back)

I can't remember my family once making a dish and calling it 'Bhuna' or 'Dopiaza' lol (maybe because I'm Sylheti)

Bulk of the UK restaurants have a Bangladeshi owner, maybe in the Midlands/North it's a mix between Pakistani/Indians and Bangladeshis.

 

[Saiful Islam]

Why are many Bangladeshi and Pakistani owned restaurants in Britain branded as Indian?

1. Curry arrived in Britain in the 18th century, which colonialists who returned to Britain bring back their own versions of the recipes. These recipes of curry and rice became known as Indian food, as the British refered to their conquered territory as "India". https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-British-Curry/
   
   
2. When immigrants from the former colonial British India arrived in Britain and eventually went about setting up their own restaurants, they quickly came to realise that the British identified their cuisine as "Indian". Being pragmatists and mostly barely literate working class village folk, they continued with this terminology. The cuisine many of them sold was also a gora-fied version.

I feel that the Pakistani and Bangladeshi community lost the opportunity to develop their own brands. The general British public is not aware of the difference in our foods. I don't know what an authentic Bangladeshi dish is. I don't know the differences in the spices or mixes. The opportunity to develop that brand was lost, and in my opinion, even today is not utilised fully.

Pakistani community in the UK has the same problem. There are quite a few very authentic places, restuarants where you can get a top class karahi that takes you right back home - but they're still not marketing it properly. The pukhtun community have done well ok in this regard, they have Afghan restaurants or will give their restaurants names like Khyber or other pukhtun style names and have their own dishes. The wider British might not recognise the brand yet, but they will eventually.

The South Indian community has been excellent in this regard. These people came to the UK later, they came from more educated backgrounds and they never label their food as Indian - it's always South Indian. Their recipes and terminology is all authentic to them and they've built a brand. In the UK even Korean food is recognised as a brand, Etheopian food,

Personally I don't think Afghan/Pashtun restaurants will gain the level of popularity that a Turkish kebab place or your once popular Indian curry houses had because Persian eateries have been here for quite some while now, especially in the South and the South East. There's a place called Sahar in Leicester owned by Afghan Hazaras but everything on the menu is basically Persian and that may just be because their Hazara but I don't see what they have to offer.

And an English person living in a small shire/town will opt to go to their local Indian rather than an Afghan cuisine restaurant (if available) and for many reasons.

And tbh this thing about meat, if we come out in to the real world rather than the PDF world, bulk of Indians in the UK actually eat and divulge in meat the same way we do and because it's cheap. Maybe there is a sizeable minority of Hindus who are observant but apart from that...Everyone from the age of 16-30 are yamming away on it like no tomorrow.

To associate meat with religion and cultures is nonsensical.

 

[Zee-shaun]

there is no market for vegetarian/vegan cuisine.
if they sold actual indian food they would go bankrupt hence the need for pakistani food that they market as indian food.

Actually it's not entirely true. Vegan cuisine is booming here in Europe.

 

[untitled]

To associate meat with religion and cultures is nonsensical.

Hinduism actively encourages vegetarianism. Many hindus abstain from meat when they embark on some spiritual quest or soul searching. Those who are vegetarians/vegans pretty much wear it up their sleeves

As for Islam with festivals like Eid ul Azha, it is pretty much implied for a Muslim consume eat meat unless one abstains out of personal preference

 

[313ghazi]

Personally I don't think Afghan/Pashtun restaurants will gain the level of popularity that a Turkish kebab place or your once popular Indian curry houses had because Persian eateries have been here for quite some while now, especially in the South and the South East. There's a place called Sahar in Leicester owned by Afghan Hazaras but everything on the menu is basically Persian and that may just be because their Hazara but I don't see what they have to offer.

And an English person living in a small shire/town will opt to go to their local Indian rather than an Afghan cuisine restaurant (if available) and for many reasons.

And tbh this thing about meat, if we come out in to the real world rather than the PDF world, bulk of Indians in the UK actually eat and divulge in meat the same way we do and because it's cheap. Maybe there is a sizeable minority of Hindus who are observant but apart from that...Everyone from the age of 16-30 are yamming away on it like no tomorrow.

To associate meat with religion and cultures is nonsensical.

Yeah i don't think it will be the same level, but I think they've tried to market their own products, credit to them for that. Far too many Pakistanis are running restaurants and not really identifying as Pakistan. First because they're afraid of taking a risk in the market and secondly because a lot of them don't really vary much in terms of cuisine. The authentic places are only ever really targeting the British Pakistani market.

 

[Vikki]

The menu of almost all Indian restaurants in the West is full of endless list of meat items like Kebab, Tandoori, Korma, so on.

Whereas in India people get killed for eating meat items because Hindus consider animal meat as Muslim food.

So this begs the question, why make money serving Muslim food to Westerners while you kill minorities at home for eating same food? Isn't it kind of hypocritical?

Are Westerners even aware of the fact that Indian minorities get killed for eating the same food they eat at Indian restaurants?

Haha...who told you indians dont eat meat? South indians and north east indians consume a lot of meat...come to hyderabad..we will show you countless meat dishes that are not even availabble in pakistan.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Haha...who told you indians dont eat meat? South indians and north east indians consume a lot of meat...come to hyderabad..we will show you countless meat dishes that are not even availabble in pakistan.

He is from Bangladesh
Look at flags once in a while

 

[Vikki]

He is from Bangladesh
Look at flags once in a while

In my mobile browser flags dont show

 

[Adecypher]

In US Indian restaurants do carry non-veg dishes but only have halal meat if the owner is Indian muslim otherwise it is not halal. Non muslim owned Indian restaurants in US have non-veg dishes but not par with Pakistan meat dishes by any stretch and due to this fact lot of delivery (pickup) orders are from Indians in Pakistani restaurants.

 

[crankthatskunk]

The menu of almost all Indian restaurants in the West is full of endless list of meat items like Kebab, Tandoori, Korma, so on.

Whereas in India people get killed for eating meat items because Hindus consider animal meat as Muslim food.

So this begs the question, why make money serving Muslim food to Westerners while you kill minorities at home for eating same food? Isn't it kind of hypocritical?

Are Westerners even aware of the fact that Indian minorities get killed for eating the same food they eat at Indian restaurants?

Because most of so-called Indian Restaurants are owned by the Muslims, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi.
The British spoiled it yet again, by naming/coining the phrase, Indian food, while it is mostly Muslim's food. Originating mostly from Middle East, Iran, Turkey and Afghanistan.

 

[Bilal9]

there is no market for vegetarian/vegan cuisine.
if they sold actual indian food they would go bankrupt hence the need for pakistani food that they market as indian food.

I actually had South Indian Vegan food (Idli, Veg Dosa, Uttapam etc.) at an Indian "Veg" place. Curiosity got the best of me at lunchtime once.

Well - never again. Not for me...nothing against South Indians themselves.

I honestly don't know how some veg people eat this tasteless mush day after day...good for them I guess.

North Indian veg isn't really any better, mostly limited to cheap items like aloo (potatoes) gobi, onion bhajee and daal (lentils). Loaded with spice (way too much) and/or fried with insane amounts of oil to a crisp - just to escape the bland taste.

My friends joke that Indians like potato so much because they are so cheap. Explains why so many North Indians past 40 have pot bellies. If you eat fried potato-based items all day, this is what happens.

No wonder a lot of educated Indians are going non-veg these days.

Assessment is right on the money, because Indian restaurants cannot serve just veg food and survive, they will go out of business. Hindutva has limits when it comes to money....

Because most of so-called Indian Restaurants are owned by the Muslims, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi.
The British spoiled it yet again, by naming/coining the phrase, Indian food, while it is mostly Muslim's food. Originating mostly from Middle East, Iran, Turkey and Afghanistan.

Yup - what Westerners call Indian food at restaurants is mostly old Mughal cuisine, added with 20th century stuff like Balti Chicken and Tikka Masala invented by Sylheti folks. Mughal cuisine actually have the rich flavor that restaurant cuisine needs.

Veg food doesn't really have comparable flavor, unless you fry it with oil. And even then, no comparison.

I want to put in a disclaimer that I don't have any special views on religion assigned to food except of course what is considered Halal (permissible). Whatever people want to eat, they can eat. I will eat what I like.

This is in stark difference to Hindutva fascists who will actually impose their dietary restrictions on others from other religions and beliefs.