Why Do Americans Hate Beheadings But Love Drone Killings?

[bitter_truth]

Drone attacks have killed many civilians, many innocent civilians who were killed due to poor intelligence, you can't condemn one and condone the other, drones decapitate in essence decapitating a civilian with a knife and decapitating a civilian with a drone is all the same, but the question is why one irks people and the other doesn't?

We can only defeat terrorism if we actually show we are better than terrorists, instead of defending ALL our actions we've got to criticize them once in a while especially when they are clearly unjustifiable, a kid/civilian getting killed by mistake by weapons of "civilized" nations should bring as much anger as when a innocent journalist or aid worker who signed up to work in a war zone gets killed, unlawfully.

so whats the solution then?
And how can ISIS be finished?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Americans like me love justice.

Justice can only be served when founded upon true facts. If founded on a lie then just decisions cannot be made.

By contrast, militants like Hazzy997 and HB believe that "truth" isn't founded upon "fact" but what prevails. So a lone voice contradicting thousands of others is automatically "wrong" and the mob which robs and kills victims in the dark but claims afterwards they were the ones assaulted is automatically exonerated.

The upshot is that the justice of a killing depends on context, not the deed itself. Drones killing terrorists are both legally and morally justifiable; terrorists beheading unarmed non-combatants is not. It is this distinction that Rowley refuses to accept - and why she cannot claim the moral high ground.

You do realize that one of the downside of drone is the high collateral damage it mostly causes. Basically to kill one dude with a drone it may have to take the whole neighborhood too.

 

[posedion]

Why Do Americans Hate Beheadings But Love Drone Killings?

By Coleen Rowley

October 01, 2014 "ICH" - "HP" - The answer lies in human psychology. And probably like the old observation about history, people who refuse to understand human psychology are doomed to be victims of psychological manipulation. How is it that even members of peace groups have now come to support US bombing? One lady framed the issue like this: "I request that we discuss and examine why the videotaped beheading of a human being is understood to be more egregious than the explosion (almost totally invisible to the public) of a human being by a missile or bomb fired from a drone."

There are at least four main reasons that explain why Americans care far more about the beheadings (thus far) of two Americans and one U.K citizen, than they care -- here's the polling -- about the thousands of foreign victims of US drone bombing. Here's how people are likely being manipulated into believing that more US bombing is the answer to such terroristic killings even when almost all military experts have admitted that it won't work and "there's no military solution":

1) "Us versus them" mentality, the group bonding also known as tribalism, nationalism, group elitism, etc. seems partially learned behavior but also hard-wired into humans (like other animals) to enable group survival. The worst, most excessive forms of group bonding are also known as racism. Yet it's an innate part of human psychological makeup to identify most closely with those whom we are close to and with whom we share group affinity, so Americans are always going to care more about Americans/Westerners as opposed to more distant foreigners;

2) The gruesome beheadings were deliberately and dramatically videotaped to ensure that US media brought the scenes into all US living rooms whereas the drone bombings of citizens of foreign countries are almost never filmed nor covered at all by US media. Thus to the majority of Americans, drone killings seem sterile, sanitized and surgical even though drone pilots who see the results up close know differently and some are even committing suicide.

3) It's apparent that even a large segment of the "peace" community does not understand that US wars and US-orchestrated regime changes indirectly created Islamic State (and other Al Qaeda type terrorist groups) and that US drone (and other aerial) bombing is giving rise to MORE terrorism, rather than working to reduce it. These two articles "How the West Created the Islamic State" and "How ISIS Is Using Us to Get What It Wants" describe the dynamic. As in all wars, the leaders of both sides are opportunistically using each other to empower each other. Robert Greenwald's video (below) puts it most succinctly: "How Perpetual War Fuels Terrorism." (But the opposite is also true: terrorism fuels war). This is well-known by Western intelligence analysts and foreign policy experts, and it's garden variety war manipulation for everyone except the duped US public. (Borowitz isn't really joking when he reports: "Americans Who Have Not Read a Single Article About Syria Strongly Support Bombing It.") It's depressing otherwise to learn how many uninformed people there are that still think "bombing the village to save it" somehow can work. Such "war on terror" propaganda is actually effective on the liberal-minded who are more vulnerable to having their emotional buttons -- fear, hate, greed, false pride and blind loyalty -- pressed than it is on more pragmatic, cool-headed realists. It's being reported that a number of US journalists who should know better have even fallen for hyped terror threats used to justify the launching of bombing upon Syria.

4) A fourth reason why most Americans now go happily along with perpetual war in a kind of blissful stupor, cheering on their favorite war hawk politician comes from the lessons learned so well from the Vietnam War. Getting rid of the military draft and putting the trillions of dollars of mounting war costs on the ever-expanding and perfectly elastic national debt card was a stroke of genius on the part of the military industrial complex to wipe away any remaining "Vietnam Syndrome." The new "poverty draft" that we're left with constitutes another layer of "us versus them" type manipulation geared to getting the liberal, intellectual middle class on board as they perceive little or no costs and only benefits to perpetual war. Even when not directly profiting by working for military or national security contractors, many Americans have come to believe war creates jobs and ensures they are supplied with cheap gas and other resources.

Anyway, I may be flat wrong but there has to be some explanation and I would welcome others' opinions. Without the witty humor of a Borowitz or Jon Stewart, people may also resent being told how they are constantly duped into this perpetual war that makes them less and less safe. But hopefully, more people will wise up to this psychological manipulation.

Why Do Americans Hate Beheadings But Love Drone Killings?:Â
Information Clearing House - ICH

As long as morons are there in the world killing will keep happening in some or other name....

This a never ending cycle of violence......

May be if world ends morrow there should only be children left "No religion , philisophy or shit" may be world then will be better

 

[qamar1990]

Why Do Americans Hate Beheadings But Love Drone Killings?

By Coleen Rowley

October 01, 2014 "ICH" - "HP" - The answer lies in human psychology. And probably like the old observation about history, people who refuse to understand human psychology are doomed to be victims of psychological manipulation. How is it that even members of peace groups have now come to support US bombing? One lady framed the issue like this: "I request that we discuss and examine why the videotaped beheading of a human being is understood to be more egregious than the explosion (almost totally invisible to the public) of a human being by a missile or bomb fired from a drone."

There are at least four main reasons that explain why Americans care far more about the beheadings (thus far) of two Americans and one U.K citizen, than they care -- here's the polling -- about the thousands of foreign victims of US drone bombing. Here's how people are likely being manipulated into believing that more US bombing is the answer to such terroristic killings even when almost all military experts have admitted that it won't work and "there's no military solution":

1) "Us versus them" mentality, the group bonding also known as tribalism, nationalism, group elitism, etc. seems partially learned behavior but also hard-wired into humans (like other animals) to enable group survival. The worst, most excessive forms of group bonding are also known as racism. Yet it's an innate part of human psychological makeup to identify most closely with those whom we are close to and with whom we share group affinity, so Americans are always going to care more about Americans/Westerners as opposed to more distant foreigners;

2) The gruesome beheadings were deliberately and dramatically videotaped to ensure that US media brought the scenes into all US living rooms whereas the drone bombings of citizens of foreign countries are almost never filmed nor covered at all by US media. Thus to the majority of Americans, drone killings seem sterile, sanitized and surgical even though drone pilots who see the results up close know differently and some are even committing suicide.

3) It's apparent that even a large segment of the "peace" community does not understand that US wars and US-orchestrated regime changes indirectly created Islamic State (and other Al Qaeda type terrorist groups) and that US drone (and other aerial) bombing is giving rise to MORE terrorism, rather than working to reduce it. These two articles "How the West Created the Islamic State" and "How ISIS Is Using Us to Get What It Wants" describe the dynamic. As in all wars, the leaders of both sides are opportunistically using each other to empower each other. Robert Greenwald's video (below) puts it most succinctly: "How Perpetual War Fuels Terrorism." (But the opposite is also true: terrorism fuels war). This is well-known by Western intelligence analysts and foreign policy experts, and it's garden variety war manipulation for everyone except the duped US public. (Borowitz isn't really joking when he reports: "Americans Who Have Not Read a Single Article About Syria Strongly Support Bombing It.") It's depressing otherwise to learn how many uninformed people there are that still think "bombing the village to save it" somehow can work. Such "war on terror" propaganda is actually effective on the liberal-minded who are more vulnerable to having their emotional buttons -- fear, hate, greed, false pride and blind loyalty -- pressed than it is on more pragmatic, cool-headed realists. It's being reported that a number of US journalists who should know better have even fallen for hyped terror threats used to justify the launching of bombing upon Syria.

4) A fourth reason why most Americans now go happily along with perpetual war in a kind of blissful stupor, cheering on their favorite war hawk politician comes from the lessons learned so well from the Vietnam War. Getting rid of the military draft and putting the trillions of dollars of mounting war costs on the ever-expanding and perfectly elastic national debt card was a stroke of genius on the part of the military industrial complex to wipe away any remaining "Vietnam Syndrome." The new "poverty draft" that we're left with constitutes another layer of "us versus them" type manipulation geared to getting the liberal, intellectual middle class on board as they perceive little or no costs and only benefits to perpetual war. Even when not directly profiting by working for military or national security contractors, many Americans have come to believe war creates jobs and ensures they are supplied with cheap gas and other resources.

Anyway, I may be flat wrong but there has to be some explanation and I would welcome others' opinions. Without the witty humor of a Borowitz or Jon Stewart, people may also resent being told how they are constantly duped into this perpetual war that makes them less and less safe. But hopefully, more people will wise up to this psychological manipulation.

Why Do Americans Hate Beheadings But Love Drone Killings?:Â
Information Clearing House - ICH

i hate beheadings as well like any normal human would… i rather die in blast then get beheaded..
beheading is just barbaric.
killing any innocent person is barbaric no matter how you do it…

 

[posedion]

i hate beheadings as well like any normal human would… i rather die in blast then get beheaded..
beheading is just barbaric.
killing any innocent person is barbaric no matter how you do it…

You are Human you can be proud of it.....

 

[qamar1990]

You are Human you can be proud of it.....

you are a human as well… go celebrate.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

so whats the solution then?
And how can ISIS be finished?

Read the article boyo. ISIS technically can be defeated, but what's the guarantee there won't be another like them after this done?

The article even stresses on the possible rise of "Shia Al-qaeda."

 

[posedion]

Sure yes will do today especially A day when MAHATMA was born

 

[Jaanbaz]

Drone strikes no matter how wrong are carried out by a State. Beheading are carried out by fanatics and terrorists usually beheading their opponents, Non Muslims or Muslims from minority Sects who mostly happen to be civilians or POWs which constitute as war crimes.

 

[posedion]

you are a human as well… go celebrate.

Sure yes will do today especially A day when MAHATMA was born

 

[Maaaz Khan]

if america starts drone killing in india then I'll ask why they are against it.

 

[The Unnamed]

Read the article boyo. ISIS technically can be defeated, but what's the guarantee there won't be another like them after this done?
The article even stresses on the possible rise of Shia like Al-qaeda.

you know the answer.

Reconvert them back to a better religion.

The real solution to this problem is not a solution in this case considering the civilized times we live in. THAT is the problem in this case, in every such case.

 

[qamar1990]

Sure yes will do today especially A day when MAHATMA was born

who is mahatma?

 

[posedion]

if america starts drone killing in india then I'll ask why they are against it.

Dont worry we know American hasiyat we have kept them were they need to be from 1947 today....
Can you say the same were they not you allies saviours just a few years back

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

you know the answer.

Reconvert them back to a better religion.

The real solution to this problem is not a solution in this case considering the civilized times we live in. THAT is the problem in this case, in every such case.

If wishes were kitten I would have.... 3 kitten.