Why couldn't Islam eliminate homosexuality from Afghanistan?

[Itachi]

Can you please provide the timestamp into the vid where bacha bazi is mentioned ? I watched 3+ mins of the vid and it was just glorifying and legitimizing those so-called Mujahideen.

5:33

Mujahideen are already legitimized, like more than 20 years ago. Didn't you hear they won against Russia?

Isn't it well known that some maulanas in India and Pakistan who sexually assault male students in their charge ?

Child molestation is specific to Islamic scholars, Catholic priests are also accused of that....so are millions of random folks around the world. What are you trying to get at?

 

[Baby Leone]

because homosexuality is natural just like other sexualities ad you cannot eliminate people based on their sexual orientations, Islam doesn't preach that.

 

[Itachi]

because homosexuality is natural just like other sexualities ad you cannot eliminate people based on their sexual orientations, Islam doesn't preach that.

Islam doesn't preach to hate homosexuals. Acting upon it is where the law comes in.

Which is why there are homosexuals all around the world, including in the Islamic world.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I believe it's more Pashtun culture than Afghan culture, because Tajiks, Hazaras, and Uzbeks find it just as shocking as other people. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I generally avoid Pathans unless they're the educated Pakistanized type.

You are absolutely wrong because it's in those persian speaking people if you don't believe me watch the documentary

Almost all of them are persian speaking others and if you listen carefully the Taliban had put an end to this scourge it resurface after they were ousted it is as much prevalent in pukhtoons as it is in other cultures e.g punjabi's sindhi's etc

 

[nahtanbob]

Hahahaha hard no. You need to provide proof for such biased opinions.

What is sexually active man who does not get a female supposed to do ? I suspect Muslim societies with tight controls on females like Saudi Arabia have a higher than normal rate of homosexuality

 

[Itachi]

What is sexually active man who does not get a female supposed to do ? I suspect Muslim societies with tight controls on females like Saudi Arabia have a higher than normal rate of homosexuality

Who knows, never been to Saudi Arabia. It's their problem. Men are supposed to seek a spouse, if they try, they'll find one.

 

[jamahir]

5:33

Child molestation is specific to Islamic scholars, Catholic priests are also accused of that....so are millions of random folks around the world. What are you trying to get at?

I watched the whole vid and except for "rapists" ( rape of males or females ? ) there was no mention of bacha bazi. Though the narrator may have indirectly referred to it by saying that male youngsters grew up without family ( female ) involvement among those people who remained behind to fight in Afghanistan.

And the narrator makes a factual mistake. He says in the initial minutes that all women went away to refugee camps in Pakistan but we all know, and he also mentions later, that when the Taliban took power there were women in Afghanistan who were basically banned women from public participation except for the few times when they could go out whilst clothed in that horrendous shuttlecock burqa.

Mujahideen are already legitimized, like more than 20 years ago. Didn't you hear they won against Russia?

That they won the war against the USSR is a myth. The USSR probably unilaterally pulled out to concentrate on instability in the USSR.

 

[Indos]

because homosexuality is natural just like other sexualities ad you cannot eliminate people based on their sexual orientations, Islam doesn't preach that.

We should not worship our desire, I know it is hard, I am also still learning bro. Ridho Allah should be our ultimate goal.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I watched the whole vid and except for "rapists" ( rape of males or females ? ) there was no mention of bacha bazi. Though the narrator may have indirectly referred to it by saying that male youngsters grew up without family ( female ) involvement among those people who remained behind to fight in Afghanistan.

And the narrator makes a factual mistake. He says in the initial minutes that all women went away to refugee camps in Pakistan but we all know, and he also mentions later, that when the Taliban took power there were women in Afghanistan who were basically banned women from public participation except for the few times when they could go out whilst clothed in that horrendous shuttlecock burqa.



That they won the war against the USSR is a myth. The USSR probably unilaterally pulled out to concentrate on instability in the USSR.

Sorry to say but you people are living in lala land vis a vis Afghanistan and afghan situation i can't blame you because most of my pakistani brothers and sisters are almost in the same boat

 

[Salmanov]

A while ago I was reading about Bacha Bazi culture in Afghanistan..
It intrigues me why do Afghans not abhor the practice which is punished by death in islam(homosexuality) .
I know it is deep rooted in their culture..but its been more than 1300 years islam came to Afghanistan..Why is this practice not looked down upon or why are peolle who engage in it not punished by death?
The article mentioned Taliban banned the practice but it came back after 2001.
To my surprise , keeping the boy sex slave is a symbol of status among some tribes it seems.
I remember vividly Babar in his Autobiography mentioned that he fell in with a boy instantly in a market place .

An emperor with foibles

Dilip Hiro’s Babur Nama describes the emperor as a man of many shades

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Many Islamic rulers were homosexual specially the abbasids and their Turkish mamluk ghulams or the Turkic ghulam rulers like mahmud of ghazni

 

[halupridol]

Instead of asking opinion of others,, why do ppl not use thr own sensibilities.
It isn't too hard n it helps develop critical cognitive thinking.
Why cudnt communism/marxism eliminate inequality?
Why cudnt democracy eliminate poverty/corruption etc?

 

[Salmanov]

We should not worship our desire, I know it is hard, I am also still learning bro. Ridho Allah should be our ultimate goal.

Allah created people with such sexual desires in the first place

 

[Indos]

What is sexually active man who does not get a female supposed to do ? I suspect Muslim societies with tight controls on females like Saudi Arabia have a higher than normal rate of homosexuality

This is why both society who exacerbate control (wearing Burqa, Niqab, separating women and men in education) and the one which is too liberal (free sex and liberation of desire) are both wrong. Islam has come with correct balance.

 

[Bengal71]

Yes, homos disproportionately are represented higher among pedophiles and child molesters. They are sick and mentally deranged people and why more and more Muslim countries are tolerating them is beyond me. If I was in charge of Pakistan I would have every man dressing as a woman (khusra) sent to the nearest police station and beaten with a lathi for forty days straight, instead of giving them legal rights.

Homosexuality was rife even in the past Islamic world, it's nothing new.

 

[jamahir]

Sorry to say but you people are living in lala land vis a vis Afghanistan and afghan situation i can't blame you because most of my pakistani brothers and sisters are almost in the same boat

Can you tell me where I am wrong ?

Why cudnt communism/marxism eliminate inequality?

I have tried to propose a solution in this thread.