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Russia needs China to have his back against EU and US,and the RUS knows India has no such power,so if nessary,RUS will abandon India,cuz they knows India is just a ATM with limit money,and China is powerful man with lots of money could help them go through the sanction and also can have their back.comparing Indo Russian relation with Pak China is funny.
You'd better say Pakistan is like our brother(๑• . •๑)I think cuz the subs are cheap,and..and..it is AIP.and..and..PAK navy is like our brother.
You are free to make alliance with anyone, but ensure not to get left alone when you need the alliance support. You know, history is a very good teacher.
China will never ever participate with you in case of Indo Pak war, but I like your confidence.
If you are really looking for some kick a$$ naval hardware. Spend some more and go for descent western subs, not the Chinese tin cans.
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1: I see the reference and I'd like to correct a few issues from the above post.....the Pakistan of 2015 on-wards, is a much different and stronger Pakistan than before, military wise, political stability wise and international relations and influence wise (remember establishing relations with Russia as one example? Saying HELL NO to KSA on Yemen, just another one?? This Pakistan of today can fight her own battles, ask your Generals for more information and reference. No support required from others. I think the lesson from the history was learned and the results was seen in 1998!!
2: China won't participate as the "full stop button" will make India lose. Similarly, India will never fight the Chinese with the Americans, no matter how many trillions we give to India!!! Just the way the Asian games are played. Too bad our politicians don't get it because of the Indian lobby in full effect!! And we keep sending our thousands of jobs to India every year!!
3: These same Chinese tin cans are taking away sleep from the IN leadership. The new battle plans for the IN call for her AC and Kolkatta class ships to be stationed out by 200 KM's from the Pakistani EEZ. That's about 600+ KM's from the Pakistani ports........"Block-DEAD" instead of "Blockade"??
This means, the IN's major and advanced ships will be kept closer to Mumbai / Dawarka naval stations...OR....by Oman due to the distance required during combat. Might as well part these ships in your garage and wash them every day, looking nice and clean and unharmed
See what the "Tin Cans" can do for you??
Whooa!! that's too much of unnecessary explanation, feared of something?? though your flagellation doesn't makes any difference to reality.
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Would be nice of you to give a source where Indian aircraft carrier and primary surface elements are planned to placed so far away from Pakistani EEZ in case of a conflict. Is it just your opinion or a fact?WOW, as always a response filled with 0 facts and logic. Don't respond if you don't have the brain power to come up with facts. Your post has minus 100 logic in it, total waste of disk space!
Would be nice of you to give a source where Indian aircraft carrier and primary surface elements are planned to placed so far away from Pakistani EEZ in case of a conflict. Is it just your opinion or a fact?
Would be nice of you to give a source where Indian aircraft carrier and primary surface elements are planned to placed so far away from Pakistani EEZ in case of a conflict. Is it just your opinion or a fact?
Rather China firing own gun from Pakistani shoulder
I think you should read this before you go on making some unfounded claims about Chinese defense industry.China has a defence industrial base and certainely wants some export customers.China aspires to become a weapon supolier to the world and by providing some cheap equipment it wants to sell as many defence equipment as possible...Pakistan is the only country which has expressed intrest in purchasing chinese defence equipments..US and West will not let other small countries which require defence equipmentslike subs/fighters etc to go into china's basket.Moreover these small nations can not afford to buy unproven equipments of chinese standards..China has only one potential buyer ie pakistan and pakistan can get all it needed from china in terms of soft loans..
Is your freedom and sovereignty in peril? Or is it a conspiracy spun by your defense establishment as an excuse to buy more toys and to stay relevant in Pak society with the 'Indian threat' bogey?