Why China is apprehensive about Japan's entry into the South China Sea

[Aepsilons]

When Japanese talks about colonization of Korea ，the first thought should be what damage you have made and how many innocent Korea people you have killed and feel guilty about that and say sorry but not the so called silly modernization of Korea if you are real peaceful people.


Remember how Abe yells out about innocent Japan people suffer the nuke at the ceremony of Nagasaki and Hiroshima ?

Abe should say thanks to nuke bombs for ending the war in your logic.

My premise , all along in this thread, my friend, is that there are two sides to every analysis. The old proverbial adage comes to mind, "There are two sides of a coin".

Regards,
Nihonjin1051

When Japanese talks about colonization of Korea ，the first thought should be what damage you have made and how many innocent Korea people you have killed and feel guilty about that and say sorry but not the so called silly modernization of Korea if you are real peaceful people.

Sure, I don't think I've denied that there were violations seen in the Japanese Colonial Era in Korea, an era that spans over 50 years. However, there were pros and cons to that period, the "Japanification" of the Koreans was seen as a negative for the Korean people, sure, and the suppression of indigenous identity can be seen in modern days as a consequence of Tokyo's Mandate. Be that as it may, one should not forgot some of the positives Japanese colonial rule brought to Korea, which included the infusion of empirical based education in the country, the rise of literacy, the improvement of agriculture, the development of infrastructure, industry, the rise of Korean population (doubled) in a span of just 40 years, improvements in health care reform and health care provision, improvements in jurisprudence and the rule of modern law, the establishment of western educational system , the outlawing of slavery, etc.

My view is that tho Korea was incorporated into the Japanese Empire , there were many undeniable positives that Korea experienced. That's just historical fact.

 

[Aepsilons]

We really need more members from japan.
Chinese troll brigade are having field day here.

And every single point of theirs are being rebuffed by yours truly.

 

[Kyle Sun]

My premise , all along in this thread, my friend, is that there are two sides to every analysis. The old proverbial adage comes to mind, "There are two sides of a coin".

Regards,
Nihonjin1051



Sure, I don't think I've denied that there were violations seen in the Japanese Colonial Era in Korea, an era that spans over 50 years. However, there were pros and cons to that period, the "Japanification" of the Koreans was seen as a negative for the Korean people, sure, and the suppression of indigenous identity can be seen in modern days as a consequence of Tokyo's Mandate. Be that as it may, one should not forgot some of the positives Japanese colonial rule brought to Korea, which included the infusion of empirical based education in the country, the rise of literacy, the improvement of agriculture, the development of infrastructure, industry, the rise of Korean population (doubled) in a span of just 40 years, improvements in health care reform and health care provision, improvements in jurisprudence and the rule of modern law, the establishment of western educational system , the outlawing of slavery, etc.

My view is that tho Korea was incorporated into the Japanese Empire , there were many undeniable positives that Korea experienced. That's just historical fact.

You Japanese think you lost Korea but not that you persecuted Korean on your subjective consciousness.

That's the point. That's the thing really matters. and make you Japan different with Germany.

I think I make myself clear enough .

 

[Aepsilons]

You Japanese think you lost Korea but not that you persecuted Korean on your subjective consciousness.

That's the point. That's the thing really matters. and make you Japan different with Germany.

I think I make myself clear enough .

The Japanese Empire and The Third Reich were political allies, however, there was a dichotomy in Japan's methodology in ruling incorporated territories. For one, Japan's goal was to establish a unified Asian Order and the integration of all East Asian peoples under the leadership of Tokyo. Germany , to an extent, did the same, however theirs was based on racial theories and the superiority of Aryan Germans over the rest. Japan's was less extreme. Japan did not liquidate 6 million Jews or have an aversion to a specific group of people due to racial and religious pretenses as the Germans. Therein lies the emphatic difference between Dai Nippon Teikoku and The Third Reich.

I hope that helps.

Regards and have a good evening,
Nihonjin1051

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

The Japanese Empire and The Third Reich were political allies, however, there was a dichotomy in Japan's methodology in ruling incorporated territories. For one, Japan's goal was to establish a unified Asian Order and the integration of all East Asian peoples under the leadership of Tokyo. Germany , to an extent, did the same, however theirs was based on racial theories and the superiority of Aryan Germans over the rest. Japan's was less extreme. Japan did not liquidate 6 million Jews or have an aversion to a specific group of people due to racial and religious pretenses as the Germans. Therein lies the emphatic difference between Dai Nippon Teikoku and The Third Reich.

I hope that helps.

Regards and have a good evening,
Nihonjin1051

Bullshit, In the perioid of WWII, the number of people Japanese killed was far larger than the number westerners did hundreds of years before in Asia. Japanese killed over 20 million Chinese, do you think how many Japanese we will kill to revenge that.

In English , please @XiaoYaoZi , not everyone can read Hanzi. Thanks.

Sorry! that is what i told Chinese.

 

[Aepsilons]

南海问题上,日本人就是以前亏心事做的太多,做贼心虚而已,中国政府已经声明保证航道自由了,日本人非要鸡鸡歪歪,上串下跳,你想要干涉也可以啊,先把军费升高三倍再说啊!

You cannot deny Japan's concerns, as the third largest economy in the world, and a massive merchant fleet, and our dependence freedom of navigation to secure Japan's trade to the world, this is imperative to understand. As an archipelagic state, Japan, is dependent on the seas -- to access vital natural resources from abroad which are brought back to Japan to fuel the fires of industry. Second, Japan's apprehension and aversion to acts of hegemony in the SCS is warranted as any imposition of control can and will affect our merchant marine fleets that traverses the world over and crosses through the SCS to an from the Japanese Archipelago. Third, tho Japan is not a 'claimant' of the SCS , as a citizen and member of the world community and as a vested partner for ASEAN and Asia, Japan has tangible and intangible investments in the region and thus any imposition of limits to the freedom of navigation in said region hampers and affects our interests there. Thus it is contrary to Japanese national interest to remain silent when our interests are affected and threatened. Thus it is to mature conclusion we deign to state that Japan's intervention and recent vocalization of opposition to China's recent actions is warranted and necessary to engage all parties to act appropriately. And to find a peaceful conclusion.

Sorry! that is what i told Chinese.

I can read it, and i can understand what you said, however, not everyone can read Hanzi. That's why I respectfully request you to post in English from now on as the modicum of communication so that all members can understand what you're saying.

Thank you.

Respectfully I remain,
Nihonjin1051

Our Nihonjin tomodachi is giving a good show and killing it LOL.

ha ha ha bai @JayMandan murag gusto lagi ni sila mo sayawsayaw lagi ! Ah da! ug gusto sila mo sayaw, da sayaw gyud ta ! hahahahaha!

 

[Kyle Sun]

The Japanese Empire and The Third Reich were political allies, however, there was a dichotomy in Japan's methodology in ruling incorporated territories. For one, Japan's goal was to establish a unified Asian Order and the integration of all East Asian peoples under the leadership of Tokyo. Germany , to an extent, did the same, however theirs was based on racial theories and the superiority of Aryan Germans over the rest. Japan's was less extreme. Japan did not liquidate 6 million Jews or have an aversion to a specific group of people due to racial and religious pretenses as the Germans. Therein lies the emphatic difference between Dai Nippon Teikoku and The Third Reich.

I hope that helps.

Regards and have a good evening,
Nihonjin1051

It has nothing to do with Nazi Germany .

That Japan did not liquidate 6 million Jews or have an aversion to a specific group of people due to racial and religious pretenses does not make you better than Hitler .

Japan just killed whatever they met. Japan made tremendous dead and wound to innocent people. 20 millions of Chinese ,just China.

See ? The angle that you look at the problem is always very unique.

When we focus on how many people you killed in Korean ,you talk about the modernization during your colonization of Korea.

When we talk about the difference between Japan and German, you say German killed people base on racial theory and Japan was better than German.


I think people on this forum know you well now.

 

[Aepsilons]

ha ha ha bai @JayMandan murag gusto lagi ni sila mo sayawsayaw lagi ! Ah da! ug gusto sila mo sayaw, da sayaw gyud ta ! hahahahaha!

Edit: What i said to my friend @JayMandan was "If they want to dance, then what can i do, let's all dance!"

Just in case folks wanted to know what i said.

 

[Aepsilons]

It has nothing to do with Nazi Germany .

That Japan did not liquidate 6 million Jews or have an aversion to a specific group of people due to racial and religious pretenses does not make you better than Hitler .

Japan just killed whatever they met. Japan made tremendous dead and wound to innocent people. 20 millions of Chinese ,just China.

See ? The angle that you look at the problem is always very unique.

When we focus on how many people you killed in Korean ,you talk about the modernization during your colonization of Korea.

When we talk about the difference between Japan and German, you say German killed people base on racial theory and Japan was better than German.


I think people on this forum know you well now.

My friend, what i said is true. Yes, there were unfortunate collateral damage in the war in Asia, however, from my readings of Japanese history and from my understanding of Japanese history , there was never goal to 'exterminate' groups of people or even call for the enslavement of whole people. I invite you to think outside the box and examine how Japan ruled , comprehensively, Taiwan and Korea, you will see that the way the provinces of Korea and Taiwan were governed were done so in an enlightened manner, with these people considered equal subjects as any other Japanese.

That is the difference between Japan and the Third Reich.

 

[Kyle Sun]

I invite you to think outside the box and examine how Japan ruled , comprehensively, Taiwan and Korea, you will see that the way the provinces of Korea and Taiwan were governed were done so in an enlightened manner, with these people considered equal subjects as any other Japanese.

That is the difference between Japan and the Third Reich.

Japan did not even allow Korean to study their language .

You call that "with these people considered equal subjects as any other japanese" ?

I hardly think so . Korean hardly think so.

 

[LowPost]

This isn't a very productive discussion going on here...

 

[Kyle Sun]

Thank you for your very informative post.
Getting closer to Chinese enlightenment step by step

My honor , Sir !

 

[Aepsilons]

Japan did not even allow Korean to study their language .

You call that "with these people considered equal subjects as any other japanese" ?

I hardly think so . Korean hardly think so.

Yes, i do agree with you that the suppression of indigenous identity was one of the 'cons' that Korea experienced when it was incorporated into Japan. I mentioned the process of 'Japanification'. There is a term in Japanese for this, it is Doka -- 同化 --- can you understand the Kanji? It means --- Assimilation. The Koreans were pressured to assimilate into Japanese Society.

 

[TaiShang]

Japan brought modernity to Korea. As well as to Taiwan. There are two sides of the coin.

Japan is taught, viewed and known as colonialist. Nothing more, nothing less.

And every single point of theirs are being rebuffed by yours truly.

More polish job? Nihonjin! Don't flatter the Indian!

LOL. Joking.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Sure, I don't think I've denied that there were violations seen in the Japanese Colonial Era in Korea, an era that spans over 50 years. However, there were pros and cons to that period, the "Japanification" of the Koreans was seen as a negative for the Korean people, sure, and the suppression of indigenous identity can be seen in modern days as a consequence of Tokyo's Mandate. Be that as it may, one should not forgot some of the positives Japanese colonial rule brought to Korea, which included the infusion of empirical based education in the country, the rise of literacy, the improvement of agriculture, the development of infrastructure, industry, the rise of Korean population (doubled) in a span of just 40 years, improvements in health care reform and health care provision, improvements in jurisprudence and the rule of modern law, the establishment of western educational system , the outlawing of slavery, etc.

My view is that tho Korea was incorporated into the Japanese Empire , there were many undeniable positives that Korea experienced. That's just historical fact.

I never deny the object truth that Japan modernized korea.

What I try to say is Japan never feel guilty for colonization of Korea.

You only remember " the positive effect of colonization of korean".

it is about subjective consiousness as I said.