Why Bangladesh Should, Belatedly, Recognize Israel

[leonblack08]

agreed


in the same argument i don't understand how you can trust saudi arabia, the nation that helped in collaspe of muslim dominance in the world stage, the nation whose people thought it would be cool to ram two towers thousands of miles away in the name of Allah, whatever we may say, america fabricated it and whatnot (true they did) but we cannot forget the involvement of the saudis in bringing down hell over muslims all ocer the world... i would rather live in a world of jewish dominance than in a hypocritic islamic dominance and subjugation of the poor

If you are asking for my personal opinion, I don't trust the Saudi Monarchy one bit. I am more in favor of maintaining good relationship with the likes of Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia and the likes.

Unlike with Israel, we already have an established relationship with Saudis with some economic gain for us in the form of remittance and investments. And finally the religious value Saudi Arabia has to the people of Bangladesh. That can't be ignored. What good is a country if it's people's emotional and religious sentiments are discounted?

Whether we like the Saudi Monarchy or not, unfortunately they hold the key to most important sites in Islam. So, we are having to tolerate the Saudi Monarchs for now.

 

[Michael Corleone]

If you are asking for my personal opinion, I don't trust the Saudi Monarchy one bit. I am more in favor of maintaining good relationship with the likes of Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia and the likes.

Unlike with Israel, we already have an established relationship with Saudis with some economic gain for us in the form of remittance and investments. And finally the religious value Saudi Arabia has to the people of Bangladesh. That can't be ignored. What good is a country if it's people's emotional and religious sentiments are discounted?

Whether we like the Saudi Monarchy or not, unfortunately they hold the key to most important sites in Islam. So, we are having to tolerate the Saudi Monarchs for now.

Saudis have under the table relations with Israel and Pakistan Bangladesh turkey etc all are aware of it. I’m sure in the next 20years everyone will accept Israel. Already Palestinians whose family have accepted Israeli citizenship are living lavish life, I’m sure one day or the other everyone will take up the offer. Free Palestine dream died the day they refused to accept Israel as a free state. And their support of saddam in the 90s. No Arabs will back their cause now or ever. Had they accepted the deal now both country would be prosperous and peaceful

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Saudis have under the table relations with Israel and Pakistan Bangladesh turkey etc all are aware of it. I’m sure in the next 20years everyone will accept Israel. Already Palestinians whose family have accepted Israeli citizenship are living lavish life, I’m sure one day or the other everyone will take up the offer. Free Palestine dream died the day they refused to accept Israel as a free state. And their support of saddam in the 90s. No Arabs will back their cause now or ever. Had they accepted the deal now both country would be prosperous and peaceful

Totally agree, Palestinians got expelled from Kuwait by the hundreds of thousands after the legitimate Kuwaiti government was restored at the close of the war.

 

[Tom-tom]

Saudis have under the table relations with Israel and Pakistan Bangladesh turkey etc all are aware of it. I’m sure in the next 20years everyone will accept Israel. Already Palestinians whose family have accepted Israeli citizenship are living lavish life, I’m sure one day or the other everyone will take up the offer. Free Palestine dream died the day they refused to accept Israel as a free state. And their support of saddam in the 90s. No Arabs will back their cause now or ever. Had they accepted the deal now both country would be prosperous and peaceful

I wouldn't lavish, western lavish can mean different things. A lot of Israeli jews are hateful to the arabs that have been Israeli long before.

The Ethiopian jews in Israel face a lot of discrimination even calls to deport them.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Ethiopians getting deported from Israel is a different issue to be honest, it's happens due to the following : A) racism because Ethiopians are Africans and hence don't fit in the heart of Middle East B) because they're uneducated farmers exploiting the law which allows any Jew to emigrate to Israel.

Your average Arab and Israeli are indistinguishable. And I'm not talking about the khaleejis or GCC Arabs that we are all so familiar with but rather the levantine Arabs who look exactly like Israelis.

It is my opinion that Palestinians and Israelis would get along if not for the fact that A) Palestinian deny Israel's right to exist B) because of Zionists C) terrorist groups like Hamas which are funded by Iran ( the real devil in the middle East )

One of the main reasons Arabs have stopped backing the Palestinians is because the Palestinians carry out terrorists attacks with funding from Shia militias in Iran, if not directly from the Iranian regime. Meanwhile Iran is using proxies in Iraq, Syria, lebabnon, Palestine and now Yemen to squeeze and surround the Sunni monarchies. In this dire scenario, the Arabs have realized that the only country that can help keep Iran at bay is Israel and hence they're seeking closer ties with Israel

 

[Michael Corleone]

I wouldn't lavish, western lavish can mean different things. A lot of Israeli jews are hateful to the arabs that have been Israeli long before.

The Ethiopian jews in Israel face a lot of discrimination even calls to deport them.

Well racism isn’t a unique trait of the Jews. The Arabs are guilty of this within their own group and also of Asian Muslims

 

[bluesky]

BD should recognize a rock rather than Israel. That country will disappear like fleeting vapor when time comes. Crusaders occupied for 99 years and then were kicked out. They are just enjoying the backing of Western civilization which is at peak at the moment, it won't remain so forever.

Yes, Crusaders were defeated but their descendants occupied all the Muslim lands you name, from Indonesia in the east to Tunisia, Morocco in the west. How about Granada in Spain, Turkic fall as a military power, fall of Indian Muslim power etc., etc.

Muslims lost also power in Jerusalem which was the center of Muslim-Christian/Crusader contention for many centuries. It is now under Israel under the patronage of Christians.

There is no way Muslims will ever get rid of Christian supremacy as the latter group as a whole is technologically, industrially, economically and militarily 1000 years (or more?) ahead of the Muslims and this difference is getting widened every day.

Underdeveloped Muslims have very fondly accepted the supremacy of the Crusaders and they are going to crusader countries to do all kinds of dirty works that the Christians avoid to do. Muslims are now virtually the proud slaves of the Crusaders.

 

[Bengal71]

Yes, Crusaders were defeated but their descendants occupied all the Muslim lands you name, from Indonesia in the east to Tunisia, Morocco in the west. How about Granada in Spain, Turkic fall as a military power, fall of Indian Muslim power etc., etc.

Muslims lost also power in Jerusalem which was the center of Muslim-Christian/Crusader contention for many centuries. It is now under Israel under the patronage of Christians.

There is no way Muslims will ever get rid of Christian supremacy as the latter group as a whole is technologically, industrially, economically and militarily 1000 years (or more?) ahead of the Muslims and this difference is getting widened every day.

Underdeveloped Muslims have very fondly accepted the supremacy of the Crusaders and they are going to crusader countries to do all kinds of dirty works that the Christians avoid to do. Muslims are now virtually the proud slaves of the Crusaders.

This is only temporary like everything in the world is temporary. Many empires came and had gone.

TIME, you old gipsy man,
Will you not stay,
Put up your caravan
Just for one day?

All things I'll give you 5
Will you be my guest,
Bells for your jennet
Of silver the best,
Goldsmiths shall beat you
A great golden ring, 10
Peacocks shall bow to you,
Little boys sing,
Oh, and sweet girls will
Festoon you with may.
Time, you old gipsy, 15
Why hasten away?

Last week in Babylon,
Last night in Rome,
Morning, and in the crush
Under Paul's dome; 20
Under Paul's dial
You tighten your rein—
Only a moment,
And off once again;
Off to some city 25
Now blind in the womb,
Off to another
Ere that's in the tomb.

Time, you old gipsy man,
Will you not stay, 30
Put up your caravan
Just for one day?
Time, You Old Gipsy Man

 

[Tom-tom]

Ethiopians getting deported from Israel is a different issue to be honest, it's happens due to the following : A) racism because Ethiopians are Africans and hence don't fit in the heart of Middle East B) because they're uneducated farmers exploiting the law which allows any Jew to emigrate to Israel.

Your average Arab and Israeli are indistinguishable. And I'm not talking about the khaleejis or GCC Arabs that we are all so familiar with but rather the levantine Arabs who look exactly like Israelis.

It is my opinion that Palestinians and Israelis would get along if not for the fact that A) Palestinian deny Israel's right to exist B) because of Zionists C) terrorist groups like Hamas which are funded by Iran ( the real devil in the middle East )

One of the main reasons Arabs have stopped backing the Palestinians is because the Palestinians carry out terrorists attacks with funding from Shia militias in Iran, if not directly from the Iranian regime. Meanwhile Iran is using proxies in Iraq, Syria, lebabnon, Palestine and now Yemen to squeeze and surround the Sunni monarchies. In this dire scenario, the Arabs have realized that the only country that can help keep Iran at bay is Israel and hence they're seeking closer ties with Israel

aactually prefer Iran over any other gulf state, it had the nerve to stand up to the west instead of whoring out its resources.

It followed socialist ideals, other then the head scarf woman today in Iran have a good level of education, and they have freedoms. Unlike some oppressive gulf states. I don't really care that they are shia.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

aactually prefer Iran over any other gulf state, it had the nerve to stand up to the west instead of whoring out its resources.

It followed socialist ideals, other then the head scarf woman today in Iran have a good level of education, and they have freedoms. Unlike some oppressive gulf states. I don't really care that they are shia.

Iran is the biggest coward in the Middle East, doesn't even dare to take the weak Arabs on one on one always with the proxy warfare. Iran is only a master at calculated escalation with the west, nothing else. We all know what happened when soleimani got wacked, Iran couldn't do squat expect fire missiles at civilian airliners and empty hangers which resulted in no US deaths.

The Iranian regime wants better relations with the west but they can't do it because since they used religion to come to power now they must maintain the charade of hating the west, which is why they carry out the aforementioned calculated escalations.

 

[bluesky]

This is only temporary like everything in the world is temporary. Many empires came and had gone.

However, unworthy, illiterate and Paradise-seeking Muslims will remain the underdog all time to come. Human species may not live more than 1,000 million years though the Sun will burn itself for another 4,000 million years.

I do not think Muslims are here to change themselves, they will be waiting for Isa Paigambar to re-appear and take them to Eternal Paradise while canting Ya Nafsi, Ya nafsi in chore. What a brilliant Islamic futuristic philosophy!!

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

The era of religious warfare and divine mandate is over, the quicker we come to terms with this the better lest we will always remain backward.

 

[Tom-tom]

Iran is the biggest coward in the Middle East, doesn't even dare to take the weak Arabs on one on one always with the proxy warfare. Iran is only a master at calculated escalation with the west, nothing else. We all know what happened when soleimani got wacked, Iran couldn't do squat expect fire missiles at civilian airliners and empty hangers which resulted in no US deaths.

The Iranian regime wants better relations with the west but they can't do it because since they used religion to come to power now they must maintain the charade of hating the west, which is why they carry out the aforementioned calculated escalations.

That's makes the other states pawns that whore out their resources, in turn they get military hardware.
If Iran had the latest hardware then Iran may have been able to something.

Any developing country can not with stand the internal and external meddling from the west.

If Iran not meddled with and it would have been a developed country by now.

 

[Azadkashmir]

The Jews were offered a very generous settlement from the Arabs back in 2002 where they got to keep 78% of historic Palestine but they are so greedy they turned that down as they want the whole of Palestine.

BD has nothing to gain and will lose it's soul by recognising those land thieves.

PS - Turkey has recognised the land thieves since they came into existence and does roaring trade with them despite Erdogan's pro-Palestine rhetoric.
Strange world we live in.

not strange when you study crypto jew in christian and muslim lands.

Destroy the bank you destroy their power and grip. Saudi have sold their sou, oil for dollar.