Why Are We Discouraging Higher Education in Pakistan?

[haviZsultan]

If you look at the government funding you will notice there is much less funding for the primary and secondary education sectors than funds allocated for higher education even though only about 6% of the population has access to this kind of education. We should be ready to accept that we are the elite classes and it is our duty help the rest of the population on its feet.

It is interesting to note however the 6% figure is expected (by our inept government/governments) to expand to 15%.

 

[Donatello]

99% of Professors in Pakistani Universities are corrupt to core. I have seen and in fact suffered these morons for almost 4 years before deciding to leave the country for good and forever. I disagree with Hoodbhoy on many matters but here he is 100% correct.

I've heard similar stories from PhD students in Pakistan, what i can't believe is why people would do PhD in Pakistan anyway, i mean PhD is original research, you want to do it where best and brightest work and live. That's how you will make a mark.

Any particular incidents you'd like to share so i can tell my dad to NOT force me to study in Pakistan?

 

[VCheng]

Yeah, the research infrastructure is based in our university, SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Albany.

Hence the suggestion.

 

[Donatello]

Because I have low IQ. I cannot be Steve Jobs or Elon Musk, so I cannot garner the courage to drop out of college. Maybe I will have to spend this entire life as a low wage slave.

Steve Jobs was low IQ as well, had it not been for Steve Wozniak, he'd be cleaning toilets with that attitude. He was lucky he had good friends who were geeks.
Elon Musk, on the other hand, is a different story.

One of my professor owns a quarter billion dollar biotech firm having pan Europe and US presence. And that company started as a startup based on their experiment on a cancer drug in his own lab. My mention of @jamahir was pure sarcasm, as I, myself is doing PhD in Nanophotonics and Semiconductor Physics is a reputed university in US. And I always encourage education.

What is the name of that biotech?

 

[syedali73]

I've heard similar stories from PhD students in Pakistan, what i can't believe is why people would do PhD in Pakistan anyway, i mean PhD is original research, you want to do it where best and brightest work and live. That's how you will make a mark.

Any particular incidents you'd like to share so i can tell my dad to NOT force me to study in Pakistan?

If it is about research, you please understand that it is all about pedigree. What is pedigree in Science? It is the supervisor who you work with during PhD, for working with a renowned supervisor will help you finding a post-doc position in the lab of another renowned Professor, and this work experience will earn you a better and perhaps tenure tracked position in a good university. All these accumulated experiences will enhance your chances of getting big dollars without which you cant establish your career. More dollars = more helping hands (graduate students + post-Docs) = more publications = more funding = advancement in career.

 

[Donatello]

If it is about research, you please understand that it is all about pedigree. What is pedigree in Science? It is the supervisor who you work with during PhD, for working with a renowned supervisor will help you finding a post-doc position in the lab of another renowned Professor, and this work experience will earn you a better and perhaps tenure tracked position in a good university. All these accumulated experiences will enhance your chances of getting big dollars without which you cant establish your career. More dollars = more helping hands (graduate students + post-Docs) = more publications = more funding = advancement in career.

Yes, but how is this process hampered in Pakistan? Any examples you can cite from your life experiences....would love to know that.

 

[syedali73]

Yes, but how is this process hampered in Pakistan? Any examples you can cite from your life experiences....would love to know that.

Who is tier 1 renowned scientist in Pakistan in any field? I dont know one.

 

[Donatello]

Who is tier 1 renowned scientist in Pakistan in any field? I dont know one.

Was, Abdus Salam, but he was an outlier. Born, not bred. Plus his work was mostly done at Imperial and Cambridge.

What i really meant was, is there a particular incident you would highlight from your own life that made you disgruntled?

For example, a senior PhD post doc from KU came to the university i was attending in UK. The university is very good for Marine sciences and biology, so the lady was visiting there for 6 months and living in the same house as mine. So she used to tell me how corrupt the professors/department heads were in KU.....that she at times had to pass the PhD students without any merit, because some higher up said so. Then she would be occasionally asked to pull personal favors for the department head, like paying for her tailor, getting the car fixed, all out of the money that she was paid for 'research'

So any such instances you'd like to share?

 

[mr.robot]

Who is tier 1 renowned scientist in Pakistan in any field? I dont know one.

Dr. Mian Nawaz Sharif and Dr. Mian Shahbaz Sharif in Transportation and Infrastructure

why can't a company be a collective organization ( a cooperative ) where there is no owner/worker difference but only of leader and contributor??



in that case, india should have been leading in technology and discoveries, yet ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy )...

There is a prominent one
Valve Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[544_delta]

The good points are always missed by media....

yeah... for them women fighting in public are more worthy of air time on national tv

 

[jamahir]

There is a prominent one
Valve Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

didn't expect a vid-game company to think on communistic lines.

 

[Skull and Bones]

What is the name of that biotech?

Nanobiotix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[VCheng]

Yes, but how is this process hampered in Pakistan?

Higher education can work only on a solid foundation of primary and secondary education. There is no such foundation in Pakistan to build upon. That is how the process is hampered.