Who's More Powerful, China Or The United States?

[Trev]

China will be in 50-100 years, maybe even less.

 

[TankMan]

China is a rising power while the US is a falling one. Slowly but surely, China will become more powerful than the US.

As long as China doesn't start becoming a Global Hegemony like the US, which it probably wont, this will be good for the development of other countries. China will, however, have a lot of influence.

With time, every empire declines and another rises.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

What a nonsense. Of course the U.S. China has a long way to go, esp. in terms of modern governing practices, law and order, service industry, brand recognition, cultural affinity, blah blah blah. China fell really hard for past 400 years. China probably need at least 50 years to get back on its feet, optimistically.

Why do you have to compare their strengths to our weaknesses? Is it not more prudent to compare your strengths to their weaknesses as well? Every Chinese should know the story of 田忌赛马, and learn from it. To be objective, not knowing your own strengths is just as dangerous as ignoring weakness.

Law and order? Modern governing practice?? CULTURAL AFFINITY??? Really? The hell does cultural affinity even mean? Some of the things you said are objectively true, but those 3 stick out to me as just pure subjective opinion.

In case you mistake my argument: I am not arguing either for, or against, your position. I am just pointing out some things I find annoying.

 

[Globenim]

I can't take a graph serious that claims China has a sub zero social media penetration because it only counts facebook.
Fake literacy rates?
Fake "unoffical" Chinese military spending estimates vs the doctored official American figure?
What the **** is the point of counting listed public companies against each other?

China has high goals it still has yet to reach but this pictur is mostly rubbish.

Now we can all guess why the OP would post a biased and missinformative article from 2013 in mid 2014 propagating wrong and long outdated data from many years ago.

 

[Esc8781]

As long as China doesn't start becoming a Global Hegemony like the US, which it probably wont

Heh. Probably.

 

[cnleio]

Right now it's U.S, truth.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Luciferians

The US will continue to be the world leader for at least another 50 years before anyone (including China) will be able to effectively challenge US supremacy.

The red dragon will rise once again.

 

[Beidou2020]

2049 is the date set by the CPC to fully restore Chinese strength.

 

[LordTyrannus]

2049 is the date set by the CPC to fully restore Chinese strength.

You mean hitler mode?

 

[Speeder 2]

China and the US are about the similar at the moment:

The root of all strengths stems from the size of economy and the strength of the manufacturing sector within. Everything else is secondarily derivative.

Their respective GDP charts are wrong. China is much larger and the US is much smaller than they appear.

So the OP is massively misleading.
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The US economy, in spite of its current size, is in reality way smaller:

- the unsustainable statue of USD as the default world’s reserve currency drastically makes it overvalued, which reflected in its over-bloated "fake" GDP.

- the inertia of former (not current) USA superpower statue enables it enjoy many "invisible" "soft power" GDP advantages today which otherwise would not exist, or soon would be shrinking in size significantly. e.g. English as lingua franca, its pop music industry, its massive financial industry with NYC/Wall Street as the financial capital of the world, numerous marketing brandings whose valuations are overwhelmingly based on the global recognition that "USA is the sole superpower of the world" instead of their pure intrinsic values, etc. In other words, once USA's image as the sole superpower is severely challenged, a big size of its Service Sector GDP would be vaporised sooner than many realise.

Let's not forget USA's biggest national debt in world history, its unsustainable military budget, its largely paralysed party politics, its cancerous top-down ponzi scheme that is called "Fed", and its insolvable problems raised from its permanent racial divide ( white-black-latino), etc. All these will become a massive burden for the US economic performance in the foreseeable future. Without super strong economy, the overwhelmingly super strong US military power, innovation power, financial power of Wall Street, and softpower such as English language and opulence of Hollywood etc can not be sustained and will in time collapse on their own feet.



China, on the other hand, is much stronger than what its current GDP figure implies and what most people realise:

- China has world's largest manufacturing sector which is increasingly climbing up the value chain. China's R&D size and quality are becoming larger and better year by year, which are supported by China's huge pool of scientific and engineering talents (ultimately decided by its high national avg IQ).

- China's hugely under-valued RMB gives a fake impression that China has very low GDP/cap. Don't be surprises that China's GDP/cap could have a rapid rise once RMB is allowed to be more market-oriented.

All these factors are artificially suppressed in its current "fake"( undervalued) GDP figure compared to the US.

However, China does have weaknesses, noticeblely the "Party above Law" hence no true rule of law whenever it really matters which has profound negative consequences to the Chinese economy (GDP hard power: massive misallocation of funds, missive corruptions which limit the effectiveness of innovations and productivity increase in order to move up the value chain, etc ), and to the Chinese society (softpower: social corruptions, lost of confidence on potentially huge soft power of Han Chinese' own language and culture, blindly following unsustainable materialistic Western consumption lifestyle and (idiotic) pop idols the massive US entertainment industry is heavily depends on, the severe lack of social justice and morale, etc ) that otherwise could have been naturally solved in tune with the improvement of the economy.

Fortunately China's Xi Jinping is doing sth serious on curbing corruptions. If he can eventually manage to restore rule of law instead of rule of party, I am confident that China could whistle pass the US on most fields within our lifetime, EASILY.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Only in your dreams.

Us economy producing high tech equipment and popular franchises to earn money. China only producing cheap toys and plagiarism goods.

Usa is made og satanism. They are simply evil. Noone can mess with them. They can penetrate your dreams!!!

 

[VCheng]

2049 is the date set by the CPC to fully restore Chinese strength.

12 noon on April the 1st, 2049, to be precise.

 

[Shoaib Rathore]

Afghanistan

 

[BoQ77]

Why they don't compare China and Japan, which is more powerful ?
This is such a joke.

 

[LordTyrannus]

12 noon on April the 1st, 2049, to be precise.

I did offer my allegiance to CCP for only 6 grand a month, but they did not even answer me?!

Maybe their secret service is checking me out?

What should i do, i mean CCP is known for human rights violations?! Maybe they will kidnap me and put me into a concentration camp?