Whole world is waiting to see what happens to oppressed Kashmiris in IOK when curfew is lifted: PM

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like an open challenge from IK!!!! In Turkish, Gunah bizden gitti - sins have left us....

 

[Meengla]

I see a narrative being built . If no intl movement will get involve, Pakistan will take unilateral action and use this justification and reasoning. I say good job.

Yes, I think something is coming up from Pakistan's side. Pretty sure about that. Unless there's some 'understanding' between India-Pakistan brokered by the great powers, public noise notwithstanding, we will see Indian held Kashmir in news for the wrong reasons for a quite a while into the future.

In history 'clean, efficient' leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, the erstwhile Somalian President of the early 90s, or Saddam Hussein of 1979 often got carried away with their domestic achievements, and launched muscular foreign interventions with costly repercussions, thus undoing their hard work till then. I am just about certain Mr. Modi has just led India to a nasty situation.

All it takes is just ONE act of folly.

 

[maverick1977]

I seriously don't get u ppl.
Look this is an attempt at changing the status quo in kashmir by India(although we didn't even needed to do it, coz we already have it) n most probably done with taking GOP in confidence.
After BD war this is the opportunity to solve this drama.
Let's be clear,, u can't defeat us in war.
N no thr is no nuclear option, , subcontinent ke logo me aisa marne maarne wala dum hota toh hazaaro saal dusro ki tatti nahi saaf karte.
So that leaves waddi waddi batein n proxy.
Will it solve netng,,, I don't think so.
So what else r u ppl waiting for, , use this opportunity n make Indian govt sit down for talks,,,

Need to remind u of feb 27th... war can go anywhere .. so just stop thumping your chest

 

[Rank]

 

[maverick1977]

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When did this happen at UNSC today ?

 

[Verve]

I seriously don't get u ppl.
Look this is an attempt at changing the status quo in kashmir by India(although we didn't even needed to do it, coz we already have it) n most probably done with taking GOP in confidence.
After BD war this is the opportunity to solve this drama.
Let's be clear,, u can't defeat us in war.
N no thr is no nuclear option, , subcontinent ke logo me aisa marne maarne wala dum hota toh hazaaro saal dusro ki tatti nahi saaf karte.
So that leaves waddi waddi batein n proxy.
Will it solve netng,,, I don't think so.
So what else r u ppl waiting for, , use this opportunity n make Indian govt sit down for talks,,,

Situation has changed. You've now broken all agreements and laws.

Revolt in Kashmir will decide the fate and Pakistan will supply arms etc.

When Amit Shah spoke of taking Azad Kashmir and Balochistan in your parliament a few days back , this was no offer of talks, it was a declaration of war and now we will bleed you with million cuts.

 

[Meengla]

People of Kashmir hate you(indians) and despise your kind. If they really were so happy , I bet India wouldn't have imposed their decision on them with a jail like communication and movement ban. This on top of approx 1 million troops.

Even some honest Indians on this forum accept that Kashmiris hate India. And I am glad that even the Western media, despite their vested interests in propping up India against China, plus commercial reason, have been largely anti-India in the coverage in last few days.

Anyway, as I keep saying here... I am very glad India took this stupid step. In fell swoop, India has nullified so many things--more than the figleaf of the Article 370. The ball is in Pakistan's court now to respond. Pakistan has indeed gained the moral high ground. The world leaders know how India rushed through the abolition of the Article 370 and how even the erstwhile pro India politicians were imprisoned. This was just too crass. Straight out of the Israeli playbook to grab land.

 

[Rank]

When did this happen at UNSC today ?

Yes

Today

https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg...4wkZQdMq1KoR1jpCxZT84B_nCqxu5QTDmMT6HPHbTshqA

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

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The only fuking propaganda team from Pakistan, apparently. Wtf is wrong with the propaganda wing?

 

[Meengla]

You think we can't supply your people with bombs and arms. Imagine we have u covered from 4 sides iran afghan india and Indian ocean. We will start the same game for sometime. We have our people everywhere. In your police politics public and defence forces.

This terrorism claim is the reason pakistan lost creadiability. Dont shame your nation.

Iran wouldn't go that far. And neither would even Afghanistan. This is not the time frame between 2007-2014.

What made that time frame was so violent for Pakistan? All of a sudden bomb blasts on daily basis in Pakistan, attacking Pakistan's fighter crafts, army barracks, hotels, mosques... Did the population of Pakistan just went crazy and launched attacks against other people inside Pakistan?

What I am trying to get is that India has been involved in terrorism inside Pakistan. I don't blame India. India saw an opportunity, just like its fascist buddy Israel after 9/11, and India took advantage of that. But I don't think India has that much assets left inside Pakistan and Pakistanis security forces are really battle hardened now. On the other hand, if Pakistani ISI doesn't already have lots of sleeper cells inside India, then ISI will find it far easier to create some now, especially in the Indian held Kashmir with now even the pro Indian politicians are being imprisoned.

If there is no behind the scene understanding, then you guys better employ those white-clad widows who are shunned from your society into making body bags...

 

[crigar]

this is a great opportunity for Pakistan to raise her voice in world arena because of Indian stupidity world is ready to listen to Pakistan. What Pakistan needs to do is used her voice to expose the fascist regime of india. If we get successful in equating the fascist's regime of modi india parallel to the 3rd Reich of Hitler and expose their true self, the world will listen to us and they will realise how dangerous this fascist regime is for not just for the region but for the entire world.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

See Rauf Klarasa's bit on his YouTube channel. He talks about IK' briefing to select journalists. Rk says IK was closely monitoring I international media reporting. Ik said this is the biggest challenge that he is faced with as he was sincere when making offers of peace.
Tbh for once we have a bold leader who has the eye on the ball.
I'm just worried about the tapes the blackmailer has sent to few ppl to release and that could be a disaster. Watch Arif Bhattis show from today
It has got me worried.

 

[Syed1.]

See Rauf Klarasa's bit on his YouTube channel. He talks about IK' briefing to select journalists. Rk says IK was closely monitoring I international media reporting. Ik said this is the biggest challenge that he is faced with as he was sincere when making offers of peace.
Tbh for once we have a bold leader who has the eye on the ball.
I'm just worried about the tapes the blackmailer has sent to few ppl to release and that could be a disaster. Watch Arif Bhattis show from today
It has got me worried.

Can you give a brief summary of what Bhatti talked about?

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Can you give a brief summary of what Bhatti talked about?

just watch his program. Its not good if true.But then what he said is that both sides have these type of recordings.
it seems ib etc have become political tools and are on prowl looking to record audio and videos of pretty much everyone. This is such a filth that basically got promoted by Nawaz Sharif & co and it has become worse. never the less, other agencies end up doing the same to counter if push comes to shove. Very sad.

 

[Psychic]

. Also when they used military to quash civil war in East Pakistan and opened Western frontier, they didn't anticipate that India would intervene in East Pakistan.

India invaded East Pakistan on the night of 21 November 1971.

After broder shellings, skirmishes and insurgency of eight months wore down Pakistani troops.

Yahya vacillated for eleven days before opening the Western frontier---on 3rd December, when it was already too late.
Yahya should have attacked much earlier---he also made the blunder of not acting decisively and unleashing Tikka Khan's reserves.

Get your facts straight.

When they invaded Kashmir in 1965 they didn't anticipate that India would retaliate on Lahore and Sialkot.

Again, Ayub Khan replaced Akhtar Malik and ordered Yahya not to attack Akhnur---fearing Indian attack on Sialkot, which came regardless.

Had Ayub shown some nerve and acted decisively, Kashmir would've fallen into our lap like a ripe fruit.

Again lack of decisiveness and showing timidness cost us dearly---and here you are advocating for timidness.

Had we shown grit and resolve like Israel and went for Akhnur instead of vacillating, the result would've been different.
We wasted opportunity in 47 when Jinnah ordered C-in-C to invade Kashmir which he refused to obey - We wasted the opportunity in 62 - Then again in 65.

Showing timidness and passive-ness never worked.
History always favor the bold.

They wish to intervene in Kashmir again without thinking what it will cause in other parts of the country.

We intervened throughout the 90s.

Turned the vale into a quagmire for Indian forces. Trapping 0.7 million of them in counter-insurgency role hence shifting the strategic balance in our favor apart from inflicting a cost of occupation and internationalization of Kashmir issue.

No one is asking your highness to go to war. But to amend your current policy of appeasement.

As far as India is concerned, it has been grabbed by the ear and thrown out of Afghanistan. All what it could do to Baluchistan or Karachi, it cannot repeat. We already have upper hand in Afghanistan.