Whole PAF goes NUCLEAR?

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If trolls could see, read and understand they wont be trolls would they?
And you are right about the dog and the tail. The above post is what trolling is defined as!

Thanks for agreeing with me.Just hope u could understand tht too.Enjoy.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Can you kindly show me a relevant link of induction of Ra'ad into PAF?

Do u think Arm forces are sitting here to give reference and links to show their capabilities?

No!.......no force in the world show wt they have and how much they hav.......especially inthe case of Nukes and missiles.

No one knows how many number of Brhmos india have ?
Arm forces always keep every thing closed, coz of the strategical and poltical reasons.....(its very common understanding, atleast one should hav, if intrested in defence).....yes if one thing is successfully tested the production starts immediately.

We have been carrying out tests of Tejas for numbers of years ..... tests DO NOT signify presence of adequate numbers of weapon platforms into a system ... and please do not post me the pics of Ra'ad Missile in military parade ....... I can post mutliple Indian "productions" similarly which are not operationalised in sufficient numbers

I am not child like u.....I havet posted anything from miltary prade.....look at video from ma above post.

And I post only wt is valid & operational.

And if you have data to correct a member, correct him/her, instead of indulging in pontification in the thread and labelling anyone a troll. Am sure this forum is for exchange of information. However, at times my incredulous attitude to certain claims may seem to irk you and your fellow posters, but then that is the nature of any forum.

By the ways, with an operational limit of 350 kms, do you think it is more than a simple AGM (like neither do we consider the similar range Brahmos as more than an AGM till as such time the range is upgraded)? And the claim of being able to cover whole of India? Is whole of Indian territory limited in 350 kms? Or 500 for that matter?

I mean I do hope you are able to appreciate the scepticism on my part now further fuelled as to PAF having inducted this platform as of yet.

When I said its more then 350 KM....

So wt ur thinking that in war Pak jets fly in Pak airspace and fire missiles from their

Dont forget its Air to Surface missle ...fired from Air ....and In war Jets fly in enemy terrotory either its India or Pak...

Over and Out....me going for breakfast.

 

[Hellfire]

Dude we cant make anything.
Tejas is lca right?I hope it seesa active service.Make it operational then talk about weapon systems.
Its not a military parade we dont do that show and tell kinda stuff to often.

First line is irrelevant. Tejas is very much only developmental. Am asking you to give some links if can about the Ra'ad Induction etc. Tests are a different issue.
I have seen plenty of pics of Ra'ad on military parade as static pic. So just query for more info on induction and how many approx numbers held.

Can u?coz most of the tests u conducted ended on failure.Take ur UAVs for example.
This is B.S.Most indians even boast of weapons that india might buy in the future after they get operational.

I agree. most of tests ended in failure, that is why even if its a success, we are careful to call them inducted until done so.

I dont know about the latter part and frankly am not concerned with others. What is strange, is strange and is engaged with as such. I dont look at the flag.

Thanks ur absolutely right a air launched cruise missile is a simple AGM while brahmos the super duper CBM after decades of failures and rlots of russian and israeli help is operational?
And Raad a ALCM is a simple AGM?I wonder why indians couldnt even make a simple AGM and make it operational in 62 years and 2 dozen ordinance factories?

Read my post. I have laughed at both of them as they are more in range of extended range AGM, wheras Babur is definitely in league of a Cruise Missile ...... somehow 62 years is some figure I could not get it. Can you elaborate?

 

[Parashuram1]

Dude Pakistanis cant make anything.Happy now dont troll.

Calm down, friend. No need to get worked up. I couldn't care less regarding what Pakistan can or cannot manufacture and it doesn't bother me one bit what you intend to do with it. Where do you see me trolling?

Lol look at this guys crappy reasons? Mirage is shown testing Raad what about others?

I just asked a simple question regarding whether you have the links for me to gain knowledge. You could just answer 'no'.

If we can make mirages capable of firing CBMs cant we do the same with our indigenous fighter JF17s? Or F16s? Lol man this guys is a bum

And you call yourself a defense enthusiast? Each platform is completely different from the other. While Mirages and F-16s have been with your air force for 2+ decades, JF-17 is a new platform and is therefore not so familiar. Do think think that the designing team is the same as manufacturing team or testing team? If yes, then I feel sorry for you.

So unless there is a credible source by your officials declaring that JF-17s and F-16s have been officially tested successfully to launch cruise missiles, your claims about being able to put the same hat on every head is a gasbag.

One simple reason you can't claim that unless official: none of the platforms here other than JF-17 is your design and therefore modifications heavily depend US permission to modify F-16s with such capabilities.

 

[Mani2020]

if we can manufacture jf-17 then surely we can also add this capability to jf-17 lol whats so complicated in it that u r not digesting the fact

 

[Hellfire]

Do u think Arm forces are sitting here to give reference and links to show their capabilities?

Not exactly. But usually any new induction has some reporting somewhere. Maybe if you found something you could tell?

No!.......no force in the world show wt they have and how much they hav.......especially inthe case of Nukes and missiles.

Thanks for the enlightment

No one knows how many number of Brhmos india have ?
Arm forces always keep every thing closed, coz of the strategical and poltical reasons.....(its very common understanding, atleast one should hav, if intrested in defence).....yes if one thing is successfully tested the production starts immediately.

Not always as such. There is always a leak

In addition, a successful test may not necessarily entail induction. Am sure you are aware of the process of any weapon induction into armed forces.

I am not child like u.....I havet posted anything from miltary prade.....look at video from ma above post.

How did you know am a 10 year old?

And I post only wt is valid & operational.

If you say so. Without links will only have to take your word for it.

So wt ur thinking that in war Pak jets fly in Pak airspace and fire missiles from their

So what are YOU thinking? That you shall be able to reach Bangalore to launch missile to hit Chennai? I mean you did say you can cover all India with it. Or was it your left hand not knowing what right was doing?

Dont forget its Air to Surface missle ...fired from Air ....and In war Jets fly in enemy terrotory either its India or Pak...

Thanks for the update. Will remember that always.

Over and Out....me going for breakfast.

Bon Apetite!! ...... I shall "troll" on

 

[Hellfire]

if we can manufacture jf-17 then surely we can also add this capability to jf-17 lol whats so complicated in it that u r not digesting the fact

you manufactured JF-17? Or is it a JV?

 

[Mani2020]

you manufactured JF-17? Or is it a JV?

lol obviously it was a joint venture but PAF and PAC engineers had a roll in it ,and now we are manufacturing them in Kamra

 

[ice_man]

MODs please close this thread as it is just become a usual pissing contest! and no one knows what they are on about hellfire asked a simple question & got absurd answers!

Question remains does anyone have a "LEGITIMATE SOURCE" stating that is RA'AD inducted into the PAF or not!

 

[AVIAN]

Surely you are not redefining deterrence here, are you? Any platform is vulnerable, inclusive of the venerable cruise/ballistic missiles. So its ridiculous what you are trying to imply above.

I only define vulnerability in ordinary sentence which is quite possible.

And your latter part of nuke carrying AC crashing in own territory is really hilarious. If you want to imply an explosion out of that in own territory ...... then you are back in the 40s and surely need to read up a whole load before posting here.

Certainly this is a possibility, else Pakistan may not have made an investment in BMs and Cruise Missiles.

Take care to be careful in what you post and try to understand what things are. There is a whole loads of experience here, and while we may not agree with them, some of them are far senior and superior to us in terms of knowledge and experience.

Just please dont shoot off for the heck of posting

thanks

Please don't tell me the basics of postings, if you are disagreed with my post then be so, please don't gives some empty remarks.

 

[SBD-3]

you manufactured JF-17? Or is it a JV?

but we are Manufacturing it now........

 

[Parashuram1]

if we can manufacture jf-17 then surely we can also add this capability to jf-17 lol whats so complicated in it that u r not digesting the fact

You don't get it... I just wanted a source that confirms your entire fleet is capable of having this. Really, if it has achieved this I would congratulate your aeronautical engineers for this achievement. I think you are just as others mistaking me as an Indian.

I can digest any military news, buddy. We are a country without enemies.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You don't get it... I just wanted a source that confirms your entire fleet is capable of having this. Really, if it has achieved this I would congratulate your aeronautical engineers for this achievement. I think you are just as others mistaking me as an Indian.

I can digest any military news, buddy. We are a country without enemies.

Ur indian residing in swiss land.Do u seriously think a jet made in 21st century will not be capable of launching a ALCM?

 

[Hellfire]

Certainly this is a possibility, else Pakistan may not have made an investment in BMs and Cruise Missiles.

Avian

Bear with me. The issue is that I had advised you to be careful so as not to be banned for trolling

Also as to above quote. You are absolutely wrong. Every nuclear warhead, be it on a missile or air craft dropped nuclear bomb, has an arming mechanism which is meant to control any accidental explosion arising precisely out of such situations as you have raised concern about.

In case of any such accident happening, the only nightmare for ANY country is that the warhead is not recovered in time and is lost (picked up by someone). There shall NOT be ANY explosion. Irrespective of what you may want to say.

Additionally if you still persist, let me say it this way, the chance of a nuclear bomb exploding in such a scenario is equal to chance of earth getting hit by an asteroid. Possible, in rarest of rare scenario.

 

[Parashuram1]

Ur indian residing in swiss land.

This self assumption of yours is what is clouding your thinking. Did you bother checking my details in my profile before coming to a conclusion just by my name? Then from where did you come to this marvelous conclusion? . Perhaps a non-Indian Hindu might be a new concept to you, but even we exist you know, just as you non-Arab Muslims.

Do u seriously think a jet made in 21st century will not be capable of launching a ALCM?

A new aircraft doesn't essentially translate to it being capable of dealing with any role. For each role, a modification/upgrading etc is needed and ALCM off a fighter aircraft is a modification that has to be taken care of before it can perform such specialized role.