Who Will Win Asia's Fifth-Generation Fighter Race?

[kaka404]

So does that mean the clear and absolute winner now is China with no competition since the competition does not exist?

nope it mean that we can't tell yet.... we have to wait till all of them enter the market...

 

[Nike]

i vote for Nepal and Bhutan, they have a robust military technology

 

[antonius123]

that is exactly what i meant. so lets just wait till around 2030/40 and see how many each of these fighter type that has been sold by then..

We dont have to wait till 2030/40.

Definitely J-20 will be sold most. Chine alone will purchase hundreds for herself.

 

[cnleio]

We dont have to wait till 2030/40.

Definitely J-20 will be sold most. Chine alone will purchase hundreds for herself.

2030/40 ??? In that time, i do believe 6-gen fighter will out.

 

[antonius123]

So does that mean the clear and absolute winner now is China with no competition since the competition does not exist?

Absolutely!

J-20 and J-31 has no competitor in Asia at the moment. That already shown the 5 gen technological supremacy in Asia.

The rest are still in CGI or even in imagination.

nope it mean that we can't tell yet.... we have to wait till all of them enter the market...

Waiting is a never ending story.

Assuming Japan has flown her stealth fighter in 2030, then somebody else will ask you to wait till 2040 till Korea/Indonesia release her stealth fighter, then somebody else will ask you to wait till 2050 till India/Turkey release their own, and so on.

 

[Indos]

Absolutely!

Assuming Japan has flown her stealth fighter in 2030, then somebody else will ask you to wait till 2040 till Korea/Indonesia release her stealth fighter, then somebody else will ask you to wait till 2050 till India/Turkey release their own, and so on.

2025 as a plan mate....

Korea Aerospace Industries agrees KFX investment deal with Indonesia | IHS Jane's 360

22 Nov 2015

Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and the Indonesian government signed an agreement on 22 November to formalise proposed investment and workshare arrangements to support the development of the Korean Fighter Experimental (KFX) 4.5-generation fighter aircraft.

The agreement is framed by an accord signed by the governments of South Korea and Indonesia in October 2014 under which South Korea will pay 80% of the costs associated with the joint engineering and development phase of the KFX, with Indonesia paying the remaining 20%.

The newly signed deal, which in essence reaffirms Indonesia's investment in the project, will become operational once KAI formally secures the contract with South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) to complete the development of KFX aircraft. KAI was named preferred developer of the KFX in March, and a contract to undertake the work is expected to be signed before the end of the year.

Under the terms of the newly announced agreement, Indonesia has agreed to invest about KRW1.7 trillion (USD1.5 billion) of the total KRW8.7 trillion in KFX development costs.

KAI said that in return for its investment, Indonesia's state-owned aerospace manufacturer, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), will participate in the design phase of the aircraft and produce unidentified components. PTDI will also secure rights to some areas of intellectual property involved in developing the KFX and have access to one of six planned prototypes.

"KAI plans to commence manufacturing the KFX from 2025. Company officials have previously suggested that about 250 KFX fighter aircraft could replace the Republic of Korea Air Force's ageing F-4E Phantom and F-5E Tiger II aircraft and, ultimately, its F-16 Fighting Falcon platforms. KAI also expects to export several hundred KFX fighters to countries that include Indonesia.

The KFX is envisaged as a single-seat, twin-engine, multirole aircraft equipped with stealth features, active electronically scanned array radar, and internal weapons carriage."

 

[xunzi]

There is no competition. We own the race now and tomorrow. Nobody can compete with us on multitude of weapon system except the USA.

 

[antonius123]

2025 as a plan mate....

Korea Aerospace Industries agrees KFX investment deal with Indonesia | IHS Jane's 360

22 Nov 2015

Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and the Indonesian government signed an agreement on 22 November to formalise proposed investment and workshare arrangements to support the development of the Korean Fighter Experimental (KFX) 4.5-generation fighter aircraft.

The agreement is framed by an accord signed by the governments of South Korea and Indonesia in October 2014 under which South Korea will pay 80% of the costs associated with the joint engineering and development phase of the KFX, with Indonesia paying the remaining 20%.

The newly signed deal, which in essence reaffirms Indonesia's investment in the project, will become operational once KAI formally secures the contract with South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) to complete the development of KFX aircraft. KAI was named preferred developer of the KFX in March, and a contract to undertake the work is expected to be signed before the end of the year.

Under the terms of the newly announced agreement, Indonesia has agreed to invest about KRW1.7 trillion (USD1.5 billion) of the total KRW8.7 trillion in KFX development costs.

KAI said that in return for its investment, Indonesia's state-owned aerospace manufacturer, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), will participate in the design phase of the aircraft and produce unidentified components. PTDI will also secure rights to some areas of intellectual property involved in developing the KFX and have access to one of six planned prototypes.

"KAI plans to commence manufacturing the KFX from 2025. Company officials have previously suggested that about 250 KFX fighter aircraft could replace the Republic of Korea Air Force's ageing F-4E Phantom and F-5E Tiger II aircraft and, ultimately, its F-16 Fighting Falcon platforms. KAI also expects to export several hundred KFX fighters to countries that include Indonesia.

The KFX is envisaged as a single-seat, twin-engine, multirole aircraft equipped with stealth features, active electronically scanned array radar, and internal weapons carriage."

But it is still 4.5 Generation?? make it out of competition then.

AESA radar acquisition will be a challenge.

 

[faithfulguy]

But it is still 4.5 Generation?? make it out of competition then.

AESA radar acquisition will be a challenge.

Making a true fifth gen plane will be a challenge for Korea, Japan, Turkey and India. They will at best create a 4.5 gen fighter similar to typhoon or Rafale capable fighter 10-20 years from now. That is if they execute properly and procure the critical components. Otherwise, you can see a repeat of Indian LCA fiasco in these projects.

 

[S10]

China is so far ahead of everyone else in China that there isn't even any competition.

I bet this is the last prototype before initial production: